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  • SWZag
    Zag for Life
    • Feb 2007
    • 4035

    #61
    Originally posted by mtzaga View Post
    Tell Sam Adams UND is in Grand Forks, not Fargo.
    Possibly one too many Sam Adams' before the game.
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    Gonzaga sind die besten! Gehe Zags!

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    • gu03alum
      Zag for Life
      • Feb 2007
      • 12304

      #62
      Originally posted by SWZag View Post
      I believe there are statistics showing that home teams have a greater chance of winning. One of those reasons is because of the crowd.
      I think it has more to do with influencing the refs. You can't play that poorly and blame it on the crowd. They shot very poorly and turned the ball over a ton. I don't know how the crowd could have helped either of those things.
      Bring back the OCC

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      • Ezag
        Zag for Life
        • Feb 2007
        • 2737

        #63
        Originally posted by gu03alum View Post
        I think it has more to do with influencing the refs. You can't play that poorly and blame it on the crowd. They shot very poorly and turned the ball over a ton. I don't know how the crowd could have helped either of those things.
        Home is worth about 7 points to the home team. So that means were down 11 pts.

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        • GrizZAG
          Zag for Life
          • Nov 2009
          • 2395

          #64
          Knock ND all you like, they are playing inspired. Smothering our offense and executing their offense.
          One of the greatest stories in basketball history...Gonzaga!

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          • SWZag
            Zag for Life
            • Feb 2007
            • 4035

            #65
            Originally posted by gu03alum View Post
            I think it has more to do with influencing the refs. You can't play that poorly and blame it on the crowd. They shot very poorly and turned the ball over a ton. I don't know how the crowd could have helped either of those things.
            How do you influence refs? The building doesn't have anything to do with that. The coach can also do it, but that wouldn't be a home court advantage since the coach is also at the road games. A whole crowd against you could do it.

            And not saying it's only the crowd, or even mostly the crowd, but arguing that crowds do matter.
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            Zag Shop (Thrift Shop Parody)

            Gonzaga sind die besten! Gehe Zags!

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            • Zag_Dad
              Zag for Life
              • Dec 2013
              • 1392

              #66
              Originally posted by Ezag
              Even if their guards are outplaying ours, we should be punishing them on the inside
              More than than just refs ... sleeping in own bed, familiar backdrop, comfort of setting... worth on average 4 points in a game.

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              • gonzagafan62
                Zag for Life
                • Nov 2013
                • 9120

                #67
                Originally posted by SWZag View Post
                I believe there are statistics showing that home teams have a greater chance of winning. One of those reasons is because of the crowd.
                Yup. It's not rocket science
                Qualified for 26 Straight Big Dances

                15 Straight Round of 32s

                14 Sweet Sixteens (9 Straight)

                6 Elite Eights

                2017 AND 2021 FINAL FOUR

                2 Winningest Players in college basketball history (Karnowski 137, Perkins 134)

                2021 Undefeated Regular Season

                The Best Point Guard to ever play the game: John Stockton, most assists, most steals.

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                • gonzagafan62
                  Zag for Life
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 9120

                  #68
                  Originally posted by GrizZAG View Post
                  Knock ND all you like, they are playing inspired. Smothering our offense and executing their offense.
                  I'm not knocking ND at all. Not one bit. I give a lot of credit to ND.
                  Qualified for 26 Straight Big Dances

                  15 Straight Round of 32s

                  14 Sweet Sixteens (9 Straight)

                  6 Elite Eights

                  2017 AND 2021 FINAL FOUR

                  2 Winningest Players in college basketball history (Karnowski 137, Perkins 134)

                  2021 Undefeated Regular Season

                  The Best Point Guard to ever play the game: John Stockton, most assists, most steals.

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                  • zagfan24
                    Zag for Life
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1508

                    #69
                    Originally posted by SWZag View Post
                    How do you influence refs? The building doesn't have anything to do with that. The coach can also do it, but that wouldn't be a home court advantage since the coach is also at the road games. A whole crowd against you could do it.

                    And not saying it's only the crowd, or even mostly the crowd, but arguing that crowds do matter.
                    Refs are positively reinforced for calls favoring the home team and get swayed by crowd momentum and emotion. It's actually been proven statistically per the book Scorecasting.

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                    • gu03alum
                      Zag for Life
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 12304

                      #70
                      Fewer fouls called on home team
                      Bring back the OCC

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                      • gonzagafan62
                        Zag for Life
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 9120

                        #71
                        Even the announcers have addressed The crowd...The crowd has given a big F U to the players
                        Qualified for 26 Straight Big Dances

                        15 Straight Round of 32s

                        14 Sweet Sixteens (9 Straight)

                        6 Elite Eights

                        2017 AND 2021 FINAL FOUR

                        2 Winningest Players in college basketball history (Karnowski 137, Perkins 134)

                        2021 Undefeated Regular Season

                        The Best Point Guard to ever play the game: John Stockton, most assists, most steals.

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                        • gu03alum
                          Zag for Life
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 12304

                          #72
                          Originally posted by zagfan24 View Post
                          Refs are positively reinforced for calls favoring the home team and get swayed by crowd momentum and emotion. It's actually been proven statistically per the book Scorecasting.
                          Thank you
                          Bring back the OCC

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                          • GrizZAG
                            Zag for Life
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 2395

                            #73
                            62 not meant for you or anyone specific, just noticed little respect for ND expressed by a few.
                            We are awful tonight.
                            One of the greatest stories in basketball history...Gonzaga!

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                            • Zags11
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6101

                              #74
                              Zags look atrocious. Upset city.

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                              • Zags11
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6101

                                #75
                                Crowd is embarrassing. Sorry they are ass.

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