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  • HillZag
    Kennel Club Material
    • Sep 2013
    • 135

    Boise has been looking to leave the MWC, including approaching the WCC for

    basketball and other sports.

    "My golf is woeful, but I will never surrender."--Bing Crosby
  • LongIslandZagFan
    Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 13951

    #2
    Originally posted by HillZag View Post
    I thought WCC had a rule about being a faith-based institution.
    "And Morrison? He did what All-Americans do. He shot daggers in the daylight and stole a win." - Steve Kelley (Seattle Times)

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    • HillZag
      Kennel Club Material
      • Sep 2013
      • 135

      #3
      According to the article, it sounds like they were given at least a tacit response from the WCC that what you said--private, faith based institutions--continues to be the focus.

      Although it is worth mentioning that into the 1970's, several public schools such as UNLV with Tark as coach were part of the WCC.
      "My golf is woeful, but I will never surrender."--Bing Crosby

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      • SorenTodd45
        Banned
        • Jan 2019
        • 2641

        #4
        Only 426 miles between the two schools, so the geography works out. And they are no threat to us, basketball-wise. But they do play football, so that issue has to be worked out.

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        • MDABE80
          Zag for Life
          • Feb 2007
          • 11555

          #5
          Originally posted by LongIslandZagFan View Post
          I thought WCC had a rule about being a faith-based institution.
          Maybe they want to convert?

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          • CDC84
            Super Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 13083

            #6
            Plus if you add them, you are forced to add a bad team to keep a round robin league schedule. No thanks. I want as much room for quality non-league competition as possible. Moreover, I think the world of Leon Rice as a coach, and if he cannot change BSU into a consistent winner, no one can.

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            • hondo
              Zag for Life
              • May 2009
              • 1458

              #7
              "Maybe they want to convert?"

              Good one Abe.

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              • DZ
                Zag for Life
                • Sep 2007
                • 18744

                #8
                Originally posted by CDC84 View Post
                Plus if you add them, you are forced to add a bad team to keep a round robin league schedule. No thanks. I want as much room for quality non-league competition as possible. Moreover, I think the world of Leon Rice as a coach, and if he cannot change BSU into a consistent winner, no one can.
                I believe the same was said back when Idaho used to consistently beat BSU, up till about 20 yrs ago it was a wasteland in football. Perhaps the league change would boost their recruiting ability.

                I don't want them bc I like the faith based thing bc it "works" for us. But just BB wise, they'd maybe be okay and that's a growing market.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
                Mark Twain.

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                • Martin Centre Mad Man
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 8222

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LongIslandZagFan View Post
                  I thought WCC had a rule about being a faith-based institution.
                  The Big East was all private schools, mostly Catholic schools, until UCONN asked to come home. I wouldn’t rule out the addition of a public school to the WCC at some point. I wouldn’t necessarily bet that Boise State will be the one.
                  “No team in the country has a better winning percentage against power conference teams since 2017 than Gonzaga... the Zags are playing above average teams in the best leagues in the country and winning 78% of the time.”

                  -Ken Pomeroy-

                  https://www.ksl.com/article/50342950...in-perspective

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                  • TexasZagFan
                    Zag for Life
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 10548

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DZ View Post
                    I believe the same was said back when Idaho used to consistently beat BSU, up till about 20 yrs ago it was a wasteland in football. Perhaps the league change would boost their recruiting ability.

                    I don't want them bc I like the faith based thing bc it "works" for us. But just BB wise, they'd maybe be okay and that's a growing market.
                    For the foreseeable future, part of the recruiting pitch would be "you're on national tv at least twice a year, when we play Gonzaga."

                    ETA: Once the fallout over Covid has been contained, I suspect there will be a great upheaval in college football and basketball, with significant conference realignments. It's likely a number of programs will fold for financial reasons. Declines in student enrollment will be catastrophic to colleges and universities.

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                    • HillZag
                      Kennel Club Material
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 135

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TexasZagFan View Post
                      For the foreseeable future, part of the recruiting pitch would be "you're on national tv at least twice a year, when we play Gonzaga."

                      ETA: Once the fallout over Covid has been contained, I suspect there will be a great upheaval in college football and basketball, with significant conference realignments. It's likely a number of programs will fold for financial reasons. Declines in student enrollment will be catastrophic to colleges and universities.
                      I very much agree. And Boise is struggling already. They permanently eliminated their baseball program this Summer to save money.

                      "My golf is woeful, but I will never surrender."--Bing Crosby

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                      • TexasZagFan
                        Zag for Life
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 10548

                        #12
                        Originally posted by HillZag View Post
                        I very much agree. And Boise is struggling already. They permanently eliminated their baseball program this Summer to save money.

                        https://www.idahostatesman.com/sport...243954857.html
                        Schools dropping football will hurt women's athletics, too. Title IX will no longer be a factor.

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                        • TexasZagFan
                          Zag for Life
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 10548

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CDC84 View Post
                          Plus if you add them, you are forced to add a bad team to keep a round robin league schedule. No thanks. I want as much room for quality non-league competition as possible. Moreover, I think the world of Leon Rice as a coach, and if he cannot change BSU into a consistent winner, no one can.
                          Only worthwhile pairing I could see is Boise and New Mexico. The Pit is a mere 640 miles from my house.

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                          • SorenTodd45
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 2641

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TexasZagFan View Post
                            For the foreseeable future, part of the recruiting pitch would be "you're on national tv at least twice a year, when we play Gonzaga."
                            ETA: Once the fallout over Covid has been contained, I suspect there will be a great upheaval in college football and basketball, with significant conference realignments. It's likely a number of programs will fold for financial reasons. Declines in student enrollment will be catastrophic to colleges and universities.
                            I believe BSU would be on national TV more than twice, as the WCC has a cushy contract with ESPN. Anyways, I never knew that Leon Rice was a Zags assistant at one time. I support this move (if it ever happens) as the WCC seems to get better quality players than the Mountain West Conference.

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                            • Kong-Kool-Aid
                              Zag for Life
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2973

                              #15
                              Add Boise and San Diego State.

                              I mean then Boise, BYU, and San Diego State football could even play each other 2x per year home and away.

                              Then round out their schedules.

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