Depth

[roxdoc]

Lots of talk about a good Purdue team and their strength because of depth. Zags are good too. Despite coach's penchant for small rotations would people say one of our strengths is good depth?

[Hoopaholic]

Lots of talk about a good Purdue team and their strength because of depth. Zags are good too. Despite coach's penchant for small rotations would people say one of our strengths is good depth?

Potential for development of depth but strong 7 deep, fairly strong 8 deep. How deep does one need to go?

And one of the guards is out with injury

[gueastcoast]

I think we're clearly strong 8 deep. If you give a half-credit each to Perry and Gregg -- works in progress, but each with flashes already very early in the season -- I think we are (or can be) a legit 9+ deep.

I know Coach tightens his rotations as the season advances, but he's got a lot of talent to choose from.

[TacomaZAG]

Good discussion, but history is definitely working against anything more than a 7-man rotation. Coach has NEVER gone more than 7 deep at any time in his career, if memory serves. Now, a lot of the time in the early years the talent to go deeper than 7 just wasn't there, but in the last 5+ years it has been.

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it happening. Even this year, going more than 8 deep (starters, Watson, Hickman, Sallis) results in a big drop off, especially against the ranked teams in the OOC and anyone after the first weekend in the Dance. Gregg and Perry simply aren't ready for any meaningful minutes against elite teams. They may be in future years, but not this year.

Go ZAGS

[Mvzags]

Getting in the rotation, ie meaningful minutes, comes from hard work in practice and then taking advantage of the opportunities in games. I don’t think we will see 7 man rotation, Sallis has earned meaningful minutes with his energy, and defense.

[zag67]

I would say that the depth is there. We have 3 strong front court players and if real foul trouble occurred depending on whether you needed defense or offense you have Greg or Perry. And we have a strong set of guards, with at least 2 or 3 point guards for passing and all of them can defend and do pick and rolls. We might be a little weak at the three, but we can do it by committee. Just finding the right set will be the difficulty.

[HenneZag]

We have depth but as games get tighter Few will shorten the bench regardless. I would really like to see more Gregg and Perry. I am hoping we can find one more big that can provide some more offense balance.

[Mr Vulture]

When the big games are played, the rotation will stick at eight guys with a few minutes if needed from Gregg or Perry.


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[GonzagasaurusFlex]

Depth, where is thy sting?

[ZagsGoZags]

last time we started:
Bolton, Andrew, Julian, Timme and Chet.
That leaves
6 anton as the 3 and was a 4 star recruit
7 hickman as the 1 and was a 5 star recruit
8 sallis as the 2 and was a 5 star recruit
9 gregg as the 4 and was a 4 star recruit
10 perry as the 5 and was a 4 star recruit

what fun, a whole team - I dont think any WCC team has this much star power in their 5 starters!
One of the biggest impediments to gregg and kaden breaking into the rotation,
IMHO, is that Strawther and Watson are big enough to do some of the work Perry and Gregg could have potentially provided backing up Timme and Chet.
Its hard for me to imagine us having a better recruiting year again, but I love to think we will.

I don't see how Few will give tiny minutes to Sallis this year, esp when Hickman's skill set resembles Nembhard and Bolton so well.
Hunter's skill set doesn't resemble anybody.

[willandi]

Good discussion, but history is definitely working against anything more than a 7-man rotation. Coach has NEVER gone more than 7 deep at any time in his career, if memory serves. Now, a lot of the time in the early years the talent to go deeper than 7 just wasn't there, but in the last 5+ years it has been.

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it happening. Even this year, going more than 8 deep (starters, Watson, Hickman, Sallis) results in a big drop off, especially against the ranked teams in the OOC and anyone after the first weekend in the Dance. Gregg and Perry simply aren't ready for any meaningful minutes against elite teams. They may be in future years, but not this year.

Go ZAGS

Wasn't it more with the Karno/Sabonis Collins/JW3 front line shifts, plus the normal 4-5 guard rotation?

[GrizZAG]

Chet had great hands, quicker than one would expect. I loved that snatch on the inbound.

[TheOtherGreatOne]

Potential for development of depth but strong 7 deep, fairly strong 8 deep. How deep does one need to go?

And one of the guards is out with injury

You need to give good players playing time if you want good players to keep coming to your school. Good players are not going to keep coming to your school if they are not going to play. If you got 10 good players, play them.

[TacomaZAG]

Wasn't it more with the Karno/Sabonis Collins/JW3 front line shifts, plus the normal 4-5 guard rotation?

Not to my recollection. Even with those really good front lines, meaningful minutes went to 3 bigs and 4 guards. If memory serves, Coach has never gone 5 guards deep with meaningful minutes, nor has he gone meaningful minutes with 4 bigs. WRT the guard rotation this year, Coach could go 5 deep with Hickman & Sallis both getting meaningful minutes off the bench, will have to wait and see.

Go ZAGS

[JPtheBeasta]

last time we started:
Bolton, Andrew, Julian, Timme and Chet.
That leaves
6 anton as the 3 and was a 4 star recruit
7 hickman as the 1 and was a 5 star recruit
8 sallis as the 2 and was a 5 star recruit
9 gregg as the 4 and was a 4 star recruit
10 perry as the 5 and was a 4 star recruit

what fun, a whole team - I dont think any WCC team has this much star power in their 5 starters!
One of the biggest impediments to gregg and kaden breaking into the rotation,
IMHO, is that Strawther and Watson are big enough to do some of the work Perry and Gregg could have potentially provided backing up Timme and Chet.
Its hard for me to imagine us having a better recruiting year again, but I love to think we will.

I don't see how Few will give tiny minutes to Sallis this year, esp when Hickman's skill set resembles Nembhard and Bolton so well.
Hunter's skill set doesn't resemble anybody.

I wouldn't have any qualms about any of that bench 5 starting any games this year. Perry is the most raw but he would also be the most fun to watch (assuming he doesn't foul out in 5 minutes).

To another one of your points, it has me wondering if there is another high-impact one-and-done type that the staff is going to grab for next year? Having one of these on the roster a year is my favorite way of doing things. If you have too many you lose the players with experience and all of the benefit that provides. But having at least one provides that little bit of an edge with the wow plays that nobody else can do, while not sacrificing too much on the mistakes/growing pains side of things.