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    Quote Originally Posted by Markburn1 View Post
    Idle speculation based on zero facts.

    Most of us here a few months ago would have guessed there was little chance of Few getting a DUI.
    Hmmm. No facts??? Let’s see… last check he was an employee of Gonzaga University. All employees and students are required to be vaccinated on or before June 17th, 2021.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagceo View Post
    I'm OK with answer either way....you not so much.
    Correct because he’s be violating the school’s requirement that he be vaccinated
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongIslandZagFan View Post
    Correct because he’s be violating the school’s requirement that he be vaccinated
    can you provide link of requirement? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagceo View Post
    Everybody has a choice to be vaxxed or NOT vaxxed. Vaxxed folks can and do catch and spread the virus to the same vaxxed and NOT vaxxed folks.

    we're all possible carriers.

    I heard one guy explain it this way...."I got the Vaccination and its my coat of armor against dying from Covid....My coat of armor still works even if my neighbor doesn't put his on."
    True, but the level of infection of a vaccinated person is not nearly the level of non-vaccinated. If everyone did the right thing then the virus would have a much harder time spreading. Non-vaxxed people also vastly increase the probability of mutations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagceo View Post
    can you provide link of requirement? thanks
    Google is your friend but sure…

    https://www.gonzaga.edu/zagon/covid-...#employee-info
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    found it

    Our goal is for all our faculty, staff and students to be vaccinated, with exemptions accommodated in limited cases for medical or religious reasons.

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    Speaking of religious reasons (& getting back to Rolovich) I could use some help.

    Apparently Rolovich was raised Catholic. I was not. But the Bible I read is basically the same as his.And I've been scratching my head wondering what a person's "religious" objections might be. It may be obvious to most, but not me. A little help?
    But we don't play nobody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    Speaking of religious reasons (& getting back to Rolovich) I could use some help.

    Apparently Rolovich was raised Catholic. I was not. But the Bible I read is basically the same as his.And I've been scratching my head wondering what a person's "religious" objections might be. It may be obvious to most, but not me. A little help?
    There is misinformation out there that the vaccines contain aborted fetuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gu03alum View Post
    There is misinformation out there that the vaccines contain aborted fetuses.
    That is a misrepresentation of the concern. Material from fetal cell lines were used to research the making of the vaccine.

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    Pope said get vaxxed… sorry Catholics can’t hide behind that.

    Almost every single religion has basically said don’t hide behind us.

    https://www.wreg.com/news/coronaviru...cinations/amp/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markburn1 View Post
    That is a misrepresentation of the concern. Material from fetal cell lines were used to research the making of the vaccine.
    So you should have no problem with moderna or Pfizer since neither was derived from fetal cells
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongIslandZagFan View Post
    So you should have no problem with moderna or Pfizer since neither was derived from fetal cells
    I don't. Some do. For various reasons. It's arrogant for anyone to decide for someone else what is important to them. It's arrogant to dismiss another person's risk concerns so you can feel safe. I was vaccinated for my own reasons. Some of my friends have decided not to for their personal reasons. Do what you want. Or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markburn1 View Post
    I don't. Some do. For various reasons. It's arrogant for anyone to decide for someone else what is important to them. It's arrogant to dismiss another person's risk concerns so you can feel safe. I was vaccinated for my own reasons. Some of my friends have decided not to for their personal reasons. Do what you want. Or not.
    I really don’t understand that attitude. We have been ok with protecting others for years with other vaccines. This virus kills indiscriminately. How do you not see how selfish this take is. I’m all for personal freedom when it doesn’t affect others. You want to ride a motorcycle with no helmet. Be my guest. It will help the people waiting for organs. You want to commit suicide ok. Go ahead. But this virus spreads so easily and has killed 700k people. Does that not matter to you? I especially don’t understand how this is a view shared by many Christians.
    Bring back the OCC

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    Quote Originally Posted by gu03alum View Post
    I really don’t understand that attitude. We have been ok with protecting others for years with other vaccines. This virus kills indiscriminately. How do you not see how selfish this take is. I’m all for personal freedom when it doesn’t affect others. You want to ride a motorcycle with no helmet. Be my guest. It will help the people waiting for organs. You want to commit suicide ok. Go ahead. But this virus spreads so easily and has killed 700k people. Does that not matter to you? I especially don’t understand how this is a view shared by many Christians.
    I'm sure you know it usually takes 10 years to go through studies and trials to get new vaccine to market. This was created in months.

    I'm sure you know they've never been successful at creating a vaccine for any corona virus before this one.

    I'm sure you know this is an emergency use authorization which bypassed all those steps and Pharma companies have complete immunity from any liability from its use.

    Old people and people with comorbidities are majority of its victims.

    People around the country have treated virus successfully using monoclonal antibodies.

    getting a booster every 6 months..doesn't sound like sustainable plan
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    I normally lurk during the offseason, but reading the misinformation in this thread against vaccines and therapeutics after all this time is astounding. I don't know where some of you get your information, but most of the arguments are outright false or misleading, and have no medical or scientific basis (or have been twisted in various dangerous ways).

    I'm not going to get into point-by-point -- it's futile. I've seen enough self-owns during this pandemic due to misinformation and "Google/Facebook research" to fill a cemetery. I'm so very tired of having to deal with armchair public health "experts", and so is the entire medical community. Please don't contribute to it.

    And most importantly, get vaxxed if you're not. Do. Vaccines reduce the risk of infection by over 600% and the risk of death by over 1100%! (source)

    I consult with biotechnology dealing with COVID, particularly regarding clinical trials for vaccines and therapeutics. Please stop saying stupid stuff, misleading (and possibly endangering) the readers here, and stick to basketball.

    Oh, and Rolovich is an idiot. Weird hill to die on (free, harmless and possibly life-saving jab vs. losing $13 mil).

    I'm out. See you at tip-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caduceus View Post
    I normally lurk during the offseason, but reading the misinformation in this thread against vaccines and therapeutics after all this time is astounding. I don't know where some of you get your information, but most of the arguments are outright false or misleading, and have no medical or scientific basis (or have been twisted in various dangerous ways).

    I'm not going to get into point-by-point -- it's futile. I've seen enough self-owns during this pandemic due to misinformation and "Google/Facebook research" to fill a cemetery. I'm so very tired of having to deal with armchair public health "experts", and so is the entire medical community. Please don't contribute to it.

    And most importantly, get vaxxed if you're not. Do. Vaccines reduce the risk of infection by over 600% and the risk of death by over 1100%! (source)

    I consult with biotechnology dealing with COVID, particularly regarding clinical trials for vaccines and therapeutics. Please stop saying stupid stuff, misleading (and possibly endangering) the readers here, and stick to basketball.

    Oh, and Rolovich is an idiot. Weird hill to die on (free, harmless and possibly life-saving jab vs. losing $13 mil).

    I'm out. See you at tip-off.

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    Amen.
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    Don't let the door hit you in the butt.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markburn1 View Post
    You don't know what the long-term complications from this type of Vax is. Nobody does. It's normally years before that can be determined. You also don't know particulars about each individual's health status or degree of risk.
    You don't know what the long-term complications from Covid-19 is. Nobody knows that either. If 700,000+ in the US and 5 million around the world die from the vaccine, then perhaps my mind would change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagceo View Post
    I'm sure you know it usually takes 10 years to go through studies and trials to get new vaccine to market. This was created in months. That is not true. This technology has been in the works for decades.

    I'm sure you know they've never been successful at creating a vaccine for any corona virus before this one. ...Funny how a few billion dollars changes medical research

    I'm sure you know this is an emergency use authorization which bypassed all those steps and Pharma companies have complete immunity from any liability from its use. Big Pharma is full of terrible, profit-motivated tyrants. It doesn't change the fact that physicians, virologists, and public health experts with no other stake in the game are promoting the vaccines as incredibly safe and effective

    Old people and people with comorbidities are majority of its victims. Those people are people too. Most adults have a "comorbidity" and with increasing obesity, so do many kids. These people deserve to live also. The pediatric cancer patients I work with don't deserve to die from a preventative illness while their cancer is being treated.

    People around the country have treated virus successfully using monoclonal antibodies. And 700,000+ have died

    getting a booster every 6 months..doesn't sound like sustainable plan
    Things will change as numbers go down. It may be annual, maybe not. But I'll go to the doc twice a year if it means others are safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagfan24 View Post
    Things will change as numbers go down. It may be annual, maybe not. But I'll go to the doc twice a year if it means others are safe.
    Thoughtful on point response. Thank you.

    I'd like to focus on your point about health experts promoting vaccines as safe and effective.

    Are you familiar with Peter McCullough? Listen to a little of his speech... skip around it's lengthy. Tell me what you think not what others say about him. Thanks

    https://rumble.com/vlqdpo-dr-peter-m...reatment..html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markburn1 View Post
    You don't know what the long-term complications from this type of Vax is. Nobody does. It's normally years before that can be determined. You also don't know particulars about each individual's health status or degree of risk.
    You win the award for the most uninformed post in this thread. The longest time that any vaccine has shown long-term effects is FOUR MONTHS, in the history of medical science. There are zero vaccines that have had a delayed reaction beyond that time. Additionally, this is one of the most distributed vaccines in the history of mankind. If there was a "complication," we would know it by now.

    If you had any idea about the SCIENCE of mRNA vaccines, you would know that it's simply a RECIPE that our normal protein-making mechanisms do every day. It's not that complicated. The vaccine shows a RECIPE for the spike protein (not the virus itself). The ribosomes in the cells of our bodies follow the instructions, and make a protein. After 48 hours, everything is depleted, and the process is done. It's no different than when you eat a hamburger and poop it out. It's done. I'm not concerned about Dick's burgers beyond 48 hours.

    Not to get religious, but if God sent Covid, and let us make a vaccine, seems like He's targeting specific people.

    Kids 5-11 will be eligible just after Halloween. Another game changer.

    Get vaxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartruff1 View Post
    Don't let the door hit you in the butt.....
    "We shall cough on the beaches, we shall wheeze on the landing grounds, we shall collapse in the fields and in the streets, we shall pass out in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

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    On a lighter note....there is a BYU/WSU football game at about 1230 .....as I posted in the "watching" thread ....Cougs favored by about 4 .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagceo View Post
    Thoughtful on point response. Thank you.

    I'd like to focus on your point about health experts promoting vaccines as safe and effective.

    Are you familiar with Peter McCullough? Listen to a little of his speech... skip around it's lengthy. Tell me what you think not what others say about him. Thanks

    https://rumble.com/vlqdpo-dr-peter-m...reatment..html
    Holy crap! Thank you for pointing this out. This absolute buffoon did his residency at my institution here in Washington, where I taught and practiced. Forgot about this dip. He was a dumb-F then, and it seems now he's missed the bus to Crazy Town! "OK, let's ignore the science and go with whatever fits my world view." That was a very painful hour and 29 minutes I'll never get back, and I haven't cringe-watched in a while. His view is against 99%+ of the medical/scientific/public health community. Baylor should shut down, for this, and many other rapey reasons. This man should have his medical license revoked. I hope you consider a personal experience here and critically think about what you offered up for review.

    To be precise:

    Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
    BTW, zagfan24's responses are exemplary. Empathetic, science based, and caring. We should follow his/her/their example. Sorry I didn't see your replies earlier as they were embedded in the quote. One thing I will note, however, is that not all pharma companies are only in "profit" mode. There are some that are completely transparent in their clinical trials, and just trying to make things better.

    Be well, Zag Friends. Bball is coming soon! Get vaxxed and get your booster if you're eligible.

    Respectfully,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagceo View Post
    I'm sure you know it usually takes 10 years to go through studies and trials to get new vaccine to market. This was created in months.

    I'm sure you know they've never been successful at creating a vaccine for any corona virus before this one.

    I'm sure you know this is an emergency use authorization which bypassed all those steps and Pharma companies have complete immunity from any liability from its use.

    Old people and people with comorbidities are majority of its victims.

    People around the country have treated virus successfully using monoclonal antibodies.

    getting a booster every 6 months..doesn't sound like sustainable plan
    These vaccines have been under development for years. Thank God for that.

    Pfizer is no longer under emergency authorization.

    You can give old people and people with comorbidities covid if you have covid. This is the whole point of my post. As Christians we should do what we can to take care of the vulnerable.

    Monoclonal antibodies are great, but wouldn't it be better to not get sick at all?

    I get a flu booster every year and tetanus booster every ten years.
    Bring back the OCC

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