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    They replaced Sallis with Bolton as starter.

    Acknowledged Nembard....I predict will have HUGE year...AA

    The one flying under the radar to non Zags fans is Strawther

    It can be argued Nembhard's return is flying under the radar a bit; he's one of the best point guards in the country.
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    We will find out very quickly what we have early on. I see adversity early on with this group with such a high profile schedule to start with alot of young players. Should be fun.
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    Who believes Few will start 3 guards. I see Watson or Strawther starting .

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    Quote Originally Posted by White lightning View Post
    Who believes Few will start 3 guards. I see Watson or Strawther starting .

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    We have 4 guards (pg, sg) on the roster. I don't see how we start 3 of them.

    Nembhard is a guarantee, then most likely Bolton, followed by Hickman, and Sallis. I see Sallis more as a 3 with Strawther

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    I see Nembhard & Hickman & Strawther spotting up threes as Timme Holmgren draw double teams.

    Watson Bolton Sallis Gregg Perry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagceo View Post
    I see Nembhard & Hickman & Strawther spotting up threes as Timme Holmgren draw double teams.

    Watson Bolton Sallis Gregg Perry
    I think its even more a case of playing 4 out with Timme down low. What the hell do opposing defenses do against that?? Timme is going to take you to the hole unless double-teamed and if he is there are 4 3pt shots on the perimeter waiting for a shot, with the potential for crazy penetration drives. Imagine some poor smuck forward guarding Holmgren on the wing when he decides to drive? LOLOL

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    If we're dynamic enough, our 1 through 3 starters might be a function of the team we're playing on a given night.
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    - yeah, i do not see coach few starting 3 guards
    - i can well imagine him always having a veteran point guard paired with one of his 5 star recruits. so nembhard and hickman starting makes sense. spelled by bolton and sallis
    - i think strawther has to start, i.e. get your best talent on the floor.
    - timmie and holmgren of course are no brainers along with nembhard as starters.

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    Julian Strawther has been identified as a Guard every day since he was placed on the roster both years. When he is on the floor (technically speaking) the team will almost always be a 3 guard lineup.

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    Game is positionless (outside of bigs) and thankfully Gonzaga has moved that way as well. I wouldn't get caught up with guards and wings. Best players will play, best lineups will play the most. I've said since he signed that I'd start Hickman but if Bolton earns that spot, that's fine too. Everyone will get opportunities to show they should play more and the lineup can change, as we saw last year.

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    Just for fun, I'd love to see Nembhard at the 1, Strawther at the 2, Holmgren at the 3, Watson the 4, and Timme at the 5. Might get interesting on defense against a quick team, but how in the world would they guard these guys when they're on offense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagfan08 View Post
    Game is positionless (outside of bigs) and thankfully Gonzaga has moved that way as well. I wouldn't get caught up with guards and wings. Best players will play, best lineups will play the most. I've said since he signed that I'd start Hickman but if Bolton earns that spot, that's fine too. Everyone will get opportunities to show they should play more and the lineup can change, as we saw last year.
    Hi Zag08, I know it has moved towards positionless. I am responding to the posts above where the topic is will we start 3 guards or not. In that conversation guards are positions, like forwards and centers.

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    Nemby, Hickman, Straw, Chet, Tims seem obvious day one starters, with Bolton and Gregg quick first subs. Watson and Sallis compete for the 8th and last spot in the ro.

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    You put Gregg ahead of Watson on the depth chart? I’d have to strongly disagree. It seems very unlikely to me. Sure, Gregg had a good showing in the scrimmage but it wasn’t that spectacular, certainly not enough for me to think he will leapfrog Watson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZANY View Post
    You put Gregg ahead of Watson on the depth chart? I’d have to strongly disagree. It seems very unlikely to me. Sure, Gregg had a good showing in the scrimmage but it wasn’t that spectacular, certainly not enough for me to think he will leapfrog Watson.
    Yep. Sallis will get strong minutes. Watson will be first off the bench, followed by Bolton. Gregg will get spot minutes outside of garbage time.

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    Nembhard Watson Gregg Sallis Arlauskas

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    Timme Holmgren Strawther Hickman Bolton

    lets read into lineups for the scrimmage coaches usually spread out starters

    Timme Nembhard Holmgren Watson Bolton..... 4 experienced players with 1 super frosh

    otherwise we had Nembhard vs 4 starters...thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    Watson and Sallis compete for the 8th and last spot in the ro.
    Just read some of Athlon and Lindys yest. In an interview w/ Timme, he was asked which teammate he expected to step up this yr and surprise people. He named Watson, and said in his opinion Watson is the team's best defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maynard g krebs View Post
    Just read some of Athlon and Lindys yest. In an interview w/ Timme, he was asked which teammate he expected to step up this yr and surprise people. He named Watson, and said in his opinion Watson is the team's best defender.
    Hasn't Watson always been one of our best defenders? He's only going to get better, IMO. It's his offensive game that has to make a leap for him to be an impact player. Another year removed from shoulder surgery and yeoman's work in the off-season should do wonders for Anton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maynard g krebs View Post
    Just read some of Athlon and Lindys yest. In an interview w/ Timme, he was asked which teammate he expected to step up this yr and surprise people. He named Watson, and said in his opinion Watson is the team's best defender.
    Quote Originally Posted by billyberu View Post
    Hasn't Watson always been one of our best defenders? He's only going to get better, IMO. It's his offensive game that has to make a leap for him to be an impact player. Another year removed from shoulder surgery and yeoman's work in the off-season should do wonders for Anton.

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    Wasn't Watson working out with Timme last spring? It would, at the very least, smack of familiarity, to me.
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    For me it is critical that Nemby become tougher as a player, more of a leader, and a more consistent 3 pt shooter. But in general, I agree.....he is being vastly underrated. Especially because he has Bolton and Hickman to back him for rest. He's not a PG who is going to have to play 37mpg. He can play off the ball as well.

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    I would say with the amount of firepower that we have at the offensive end of the court, Watsons defense would be a super addition. So if he has improved his offense and can be a threat without the ball, then to me he will earn major minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strikenowhere View Post
    I think its even more a case of playing 4 out with Timme down low. What the hell do opposing defenses do against that?? Timme is going to take you to the hole unless double-teamed and if he is there are 4 3pt shots on the perimeter waiting for a shot, with the potential for crazy penetration drives. Imagine some poor smuck forward guarding Holmgren on the wing when he decides to drive? LOLOL
    Agree w this take 100%. Starting Nembhard, Hickman. Strawther, Holmgren and Timme for a 1 in 4 out offense w Timme down low will be very hard to guard. Let Holmgren and Timme swap outside in now and again too as either can take a traditional big off the dribble.

    Sub in Watson, Sallis, Bolton and move to full court pressing D w Watson up top, Chet at the back and one of Nembhard or Hickman staying in to run the point. OMG…salivating. Who knows, maybe Perry earns minutes as the post D shot blocker w the pressing D lineup and give Chet a rest too.

    Gotta get Gregg minutes too somehow cause he looks ready…certainly on the offensive end. TBD defensively.
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    I like a line-up of Nembhard, Timme, Chet, Watson and Strawther or another Guard wither - Hickman/Bolton/Sallis.

    Starting Watson ensures that Chet will be the SF and force opponents to start 3-bigs, which most teams cannot do...Then you have the 3-guards, Perry and Gregg coming off the bench...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogozags View Post
    I like a line-up of Nembhard, Timme, Chet, Watson and Strawther or another Guard wither - Hickman/Bolton/Sallis.

    Starting Watson ensures that Chet will be the SF and force opponents to start 3-bigs, which most teams cannot do...Then you have the 3-guards, Perry and Gregg coming off the bench...
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    Still #1 in the AP Poll.

    Amazing, still amazed at the level this program has achieved.

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