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    ‘When you lose a game, you’re not surprised. You’re disappointed," Team USA Coach Gregg Popovich said. "I don’t understand the word ‘surprised.’ That sort of disses the French team, as if we’re supposed to beat them by 30. That’s a hell of a team.”

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    And this is why I have tired of the nba. It’s not good basketball. It’s a bunch of ball hogs which the refs protect, allowing 30-50 pt games for certain personalities.

    It’s exemplified on the Olympic stage.

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    Popovich has been so rude to the media for such a long time that I don't much take much stock, if any, in what he has to say. He mostly just feeds the negative feelings I have for him already (This isn't intended to be preachy). I think that to be as rude as he is, he must be very arrogant and self-absorbed.

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    Popovich should have retired years ago.

    Agree with you JP

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    ‘When you lose a game, you’re not surprised. You’re disappointed," Team USA Coach Gregg Popovich said. "I don’t understand the word ‘surprised.’ That sort of disses the French team, as if we’re supposed to beat them by 30. That’s a hell of a team.”
    I don’t see the issue with this quote. Obviously someone asked if he was surprised by the result.
    I wasn’t surprised by the Baylor game, I was also disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23dpg View Post
    I don’t see the issue with this quote. Obviously someone asked if he was surprised by the result.
    I wasn’t surprised by the Baylor game, I was also disappointed.
    Would you have been surprised if it was WSU instead of Baylor? I think that’s the point. The NBA is constantly advertised as the world’s best with nothing coming within miles in terms of competitiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    The NBA is constantly advertised as the world’s best with nothing coming within miles in terms of competitiveness.
    France has good NBA players too. This doesn't prove that the French league is better than the NBA. Or that the Euroleague is. Or that either of them are even close. They aren't.

    eta: I actually do like European basketball though.

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    Not necessarily disagreeing with this thrust of this thread, but I believe there are three NBA players on the French team. And the French team plays together a good portion of each year.

    The USA team was certainly not composed of the league's best players.

    Still, I was surprised with the result. Two missed free throws, then four straight missed threes from closer than NBA range by the US team.

    There are a lot of very, very talented unheralded international players out there.

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    I knew when St Mary's beat them in a exhibition that there was trouble brewing .....actually I think this is good for basketball.....much like the expansion of the European Ryder Cup Team is good for golf.....

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    To say the NBA is the best league in the world, so we should roll over everybody in the Olympics, ignores the fact that there are a ton of really good international players in the NBA. This includes the most recent MVP, the player who dominated the Finals, and some kid named Doncic who might be the future of the league. And as mentioned the US Olympic team is not comprised of all the best US players (look at the roster, a few of them you won't even believe made the team). The days of the Dream Team are long gone, for whatever reason winning a Gold Medal is a lot less of a draw for men's basketball players than athletes in pretty much every other sport, so we don't send anything close to our A team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    To say the NBA is the best league in the world, so we should roll over everybody in the Olympics, ignores the fact that there are a ton of really good international players in the NBA. This includes the most recent MVP, the player who dominated the Finals, and some kid named Doncic who might be the future of the league. And as mentioned the US Olympic team is not comprised of all the best US players (look at the roster, a few of them you won't even believe made the team). The days of the Dream Team are long gone, for whatever reason winning a Gold Medal is a lot less of a draw for men's basketball players than athletes in pretty much every other sport, so we don't send anything close to our A team.
    Cat, agree but you would think a team led by KD, Tatum, Dame and Booker would beat a team led by Goebert and the other guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartruff1 View Post
    I knew when St Mary's beat them in a exhibition that there was trouble brewing .....actually I think this is good for basketball.....much like the expansion of the European Ryder Cup Team is good for golf.....
    Funny, my thought exactly. Landale starting, too.

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    Pops been a jerk for years. The failure of the team is disconcerting but they’ve done poorly prior to the Olympics. The two issues are different though. Pops just wore out his welcome IMO. The pros don’t seem to take this very seriously. NBA season is different t. They lose millions if they underperform. These Olympics don’t mean much. When the college kids were the Olympians , the games mattered to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    Cat, agree but you would think a team led by KD, Tatum, Dame and Booker would beat a team led by Goebert and the other guy.
    True enough, still plenty of talent on the US team.

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    Dame and Durant, especially, but multiple players are typically uber competitive, refuse-to-lose types. I hope this is just a fluke and not signs of something fundamentally flawed with this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    And this is why I have tired of the nba. It’s not good basketball. It’s a bunch of ball hogs which the refs protect, allowing 30-50 pt games for certain personalities.

    It’s exemplified on the Olympic stage.
    I won't even watch the NBA anymore. Every now and again to watch Zags but the NBA game imo is all about show boating. College game 100x better.
    America's Team!

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    Popovich is well-liked by his players (except those that want to be pampered), and definitely by the San Antonio community. He donates millions to charities, and is a proven winner. He does not suffer fools gladly, which often comes off as rude when he's asked a dumb question. I'm not an NBA fan either, but Pops is a decent guy.

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    Embarrassing effort and result. I’m not thinking they will win it all. My money on Australia Spain or Slovenia

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    I suspect they have not learned to play as a team.....but I would not bet against them....this game reminded me of Gonzaga's loss to Portland State....had the same over confident play....and then in crunch time some missed shots..... including free throws..... and fouls .....and turnovers........ and time ran out....and the much better team lost.....it happens...

    Perhaps it all came to easy in the first period...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagal View Post
    Popovich is well-liked by his players (except those that want to be pampered), and definitely by the San Antonio community. He donates millions to charities, and is a proven winner. He does not suffer fools gladly, which often comes off as rude when he's asked a dumb question. I'm not an NBA fan either, but Pops is a decent guy.
    I agree. Popovich's answer was honest: "I don’t understand the word ‘surprised.’ That sort of disses the French team, as if we’re supposed to beat them by 30. That’s a hell of a team.”
    Europeans focus on team ball. The NBA is quite content nurturing theatrical super stars. The U.S. players will come around - let's hope they can do it before its too late.

    I'm surprised at the number of negative comments on Pops - maybe its his politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    I agree. Popovich's answer was honest: "I don’t understand the word ‘surprised.’ That sort of disses the French team, as if we’re supposed to beat them by 30. That’s a hell of a team.”
    Europeans focus on team ball. The NBA is quite content nurturing theatrical super stars. The U.S. players will come around - let's hope they can do it before its too late.

    I'm surprised at the number of negative comments on Pops - maybe its his politics.
    Or maybe it’s the fact the United States of America who have won 24 straight games and used to pummel international competition by 50+ just lost to a team whose leading scorer is Evan Fournier after they were up 7 with 2 minutes left. After losing to Nigeria and Australia in the prelims.. but ya maybe politics…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    I agree. Popovich's answer was honest: "I don’t understand the word ‘surprised.’ That sort of disses the French team, as if we’re supposed to beat them by 30. That’s a hell of a team.”
    Europeans focus on team ball. The NBA is quite content nurturing theatrical super stars. The U.S. players will come around - let's hope they can do it before its too late.

    I'm surprised at the number of negative comments on Pops - maybe its his politics.
    You go ahead and hope all you want. Who cares. Pop was a jerk decades before his political views became known. Stevie has similar views and is justifiably and widely beloved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    I agree. Popovich's answer was honest: "I don’t understand the word ‘surprised.’ That sort of disses the French team, as if we’re supposed to beat them by 30. That’s a hell of a team.”
    Europeans focus on team ball. The NBA is quite content nurturing theatrical super stars. The U.S. players will come around - let's hope they can do it before its too late.

    I'm surprised at the number of negative comments on Pops - maybe its his politics.
    He started being a boor well before COVID and the Howard Hughes hairdo. I’m glad he’s liked in San Antonio. It’s undeniable that he’s a very good coach, in my opinion. I’m sure he’s nice when he wants to be. It’s the persons that are nice when they don’t want to be that I admire. I don’t wish him ill will, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    True enough, still plenty of talent on the US team.
    The talent that formed the Dream Team was apparently a group that, to a man, was honored to play “basketball” for their country, at least as far as I remember. Times and player priorities appear to have changed. I’m not interested any more.

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    My feelings are that we've sent a lot of entitled brats (there are exceptions to that absolutely) over to "represent" our country. I've checked out. Not watching.

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