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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    US vs France replay is on right now. I know the US wins, but they just really are not impressive. I don't think Staley is winning any fans with her coaching during these games.

    Marine Johannes looks good for France. She played briefly for the Liberty at some point. Some really slick passes.

    US will still probably win gold. I don't know that anybody can really handle Stewie and A'ja. The front court isn't the problem, but the back court has been consistently unproductive.
    Yep, Wbb, Women's Soccer and Women's Softball all went with the "experienced" team, leaving several younger, all-stars at home.

    Softball settled for the silver, Soccer is going to play for the bronze leaving the Wbb as the last team standing to get a chance to play for gold. Softball just could not hit, the pitchers for USA did fine. Numerous times USA Soccer has look just flat, slow and disjointed. As SeaCat said above, the frontcourt of USA Wbb has looked great, however, the backcourt has been very flat.

    Might need to rethink the "value" of mid- to late-30s team selections. is having 3, 4, 5 Olympic experiences really that much more valuable than somebody who has 1 or 2 Olympic experiences?

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    Well the U.S. women seem to be figuring it out. Steamrolled Australia and Serbia the last 2 games, moving on to the Gold Medal game. They've really turned up the defense. Will face the winner of Japan vs. France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    Well the U.S. women seem to be figuring it out. Steamrolled Australia and Serbia the last 2 games, moving on to the Gold Medal game. They've really turned up the defense. Will face the winner of Japan vs. France.
    Sort of.

    Had an 18 point lead at half and played the 2nd half essentially even. Let the Serbs get the lead down to about 12 before they picked it up.

    I got a kick out of the play by play announcer having a conversation with Kara Lawson about how USA Wbb was going to replace Bird and Taurasi for the next Olympics that occur in only 3 years. News Flash, consider selecting players for USA Wbb who are WNBA all stars and are not 38-40 years old and have 5 olympics in their pocket. Maybe if the USA born players felt they had any chance at playing for Team USA they would not go off to play for foreign nations.

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    Serbia just couldn't hit shots. Despite some offensive droughts for the U.S., the Serbs never really posed a threat.

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    FWIW Japan beat France handily to advance to the Gold Medal game against the U.S.

    France beat Serbia today for the Bronze.

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    U.S. up 11 at halftime. Griner is just destroying Japan, they have no size and can't deal w/ her. She has 18 on 9-10 shooting.

    U.S. can't stop the drive and Japan has hit plenty of 3's as well. Bird and Taurasi can't guard anybody, but it goes deeper than that. Pretty much Japan's whole team is guards, so there's always a post trying to chase a smaller, quicker player around and it doesn't work.

    Bird also can't hit a shot. She started terribly the first 2 or 3 games, finally found her range, and has now gone cold again.


    edit--oh yeah, they just couldn't help themselves, had to do a LONG interview w/ Rapinoe during the game. Like she hasn't gotten more than enough face time already. I muted it, don't want to hear anything she has to say on any topic.

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    90-75 final, but it wasn't that close. Lead ballooned to near 25 several times. Dawn refused to use 3 or 4 of the players the entire Olympics. Who chose this team? I guess you can't make the coach use the players that were selected.


    Fairly shocking to me that Japan made the finals, but they did beat Belgium and France to get there. I just have a really hard time accepting they are the second best team in the world.

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    Have not seen the entire game yet, (was at the Spokane Indians game) just the highlights.

    Game played out exactly as I expected. When Liz Cambage was kicked of the Australian Wbb team, nobody else had any frontcourt that could contend with the US frontcourt. As long as the US backcourt held their own and the US frontcourt played close to their ability the US should have been expected to win and they did, admittedly with a few bumps and bruises along the way.

    The older players (Bird and Taurasi) played as expected with bouts of good/decent play mixed in with bouts of WTF mixed in with what appeared to be fatigue. No load management available in the Olympics once you make the knock-out rounds. There is probably at least ten WNBA players who should have been selected before Bird and Taurasi, but it appeared the US Wbb Selection Committee (yes Geno was on the selection committee the head coach - Staley is not) was more concerned with getting Bird and Taurasi their 5th gold medals than putting the best USA Wbb team on the floor.

    Gold medal earned, the USA Selection Committee goals have been met, but at what cost.

    Congrats to the USA Wbb team for tying the USA Mbb team for the most consecutive gold medals at 7. The USA Wbb have the chance in Paris to pass the men with 8 consecutive gold medals in only 3 years.

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    6 first timers on this Olympic squad, but it was mostly a fail getting their feet wet. Atkins, Diggins-Smith and Collier didn't play. At all. Gray proved a valuable reserve. Loyd struggled. Wilson obviously was one of the key players on the team. Of the newcomers, probably only 2 should be considered locks for '24. Got to hope there's no way Bird and Taurasi are back. Fowles and Charles both seem doubtful as well.

    So Stewie, Wilson, Griner and maybe Gray seem like the only players that should definitely be on the '24 team. This "transition" year is probably going to have to be repeated again in '24. Should just start completely over with the backcourt. And maybe they can try to find an actual 3 next time. Or maybe even a couple small forwards, as crazy as that sounds.


    edit--sounds like Staley won't be returning as coach; pretty sure almost nobody will be disappointed by that

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    WNBA schedule resumes in a week, on 8/15. Looks like pretty much every team is playing.

    The Commisioners Cup is on Thursday between Seattle and Connecticut. That seemed kinda gimmicky to me. Oh well.

    I guess the mainstays from the Olympic team that Staley ran into the ground get a week to rest (except for the 3 from Seattle).

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    Sky catch a break--Stewie and Bird will be sitting out the game tomorrow for load management. I still can't figure out what the hell the Commissioner's Cup was supposed to be, but they did play in that game (that doesn't count toward the standings). Maybe the WNBA needed Jackie Moon to do some promotional work for them.


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    Sloot and the Sky edge the Storm by 2 in OT. Sloot didn't score much but dished out 11 assists. If Bird is going to be sitting out some games to rest down the stretch, makes an opportunity to reel her in a little bit more.

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    The Sky did what the Sky do. They can't guard the other teams post. The Storm's Ezi Magbegor had 21 points on 9-19 shooting and 3-3 from the charity stripe to go with 9 rebounds. Mercedes Russell had 10 points on 3-5 shooting and 4-4 from the charity stripe to go with 11 rebounds. Jewell Loyd led the Storm in scoring with 26 points but she only shot 7-30 land was 10-11 from the charity stripe. The Sky's Deshields and Copper did a pretty good job on Loyd defensively but did tend to foul a little to often (or were called for phantom fouls on flop or two). The other major Sky malady this year is turnovers and once again the Sky did not disappoint by having the most turnovers 18-8.

    In games decided by 5 points or less the sky were 1-4 with no overtime victories. So with a little luck, and no Bird or Stewie, the Sky were able to get the victory in OT and move to 11-10 overall.

    Sloot also had 8 rebounds today to go with her 11 assists. Sloots assists per game are now over nine at 9.1 apg.

    Nice to see Chicago came up with 6,231 fans for today's game.

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    Another game of poor shooting but dishing out 12 assists for Sloot. Bad 2nd half, saw a 3 point halftime lead turn into a 12 point deficit. Then w/ 4 minutes left they decided to start playing ball. Quigley nearly led them back w/ a 3 point shooting barrage, but too little too late. 80-76 final. Parker had an invisible performance. So did Dolson.

    Sloot goes over 200 assists for the season, 5th year in a row. She should pass Whalen some time around the middle of next year to move to #3 on the all time list.

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    Yeah, Sloot had another relatively poor shooting game going 2-7.

    Parker turned her ankle early in the 3rd quarter and did not return. Parker only played 16 minutes so you would expect her numbers to be down. She only had 2 points but she did have 6 rebounds and a couple of assists in her 16 minutes. Not the reason the brought her to Chicago, but not totally invisible. One problem was the people they brought in to replace Parker (Hebard, Dolson & Ndour-Fall) played a total of 30 minutes and went 1-7 for 2 points. Need more help from your bench than that. Dolson has been a starter for much of the year.

    The other main reason for the loss was while the Sky kept the turnovers in check today (10 t/o's), they once again got hammered on the boards 45-32 with Dallas also winning the battle of the O-boards (15-10). you can't keep getting handily beat inside (points and rebounds) and expect to win.

    Sky are definitely a mid-pack team and while they most likely will make the playoffs, their time in the playoffs will be very limited unless they can turn-around their level of play.

    Sky have 10 games left. If Sloot keeps up with her 9.3 apg average, she will have a total of 297 assists for the season. This would be her second highest annual number of assists to only the 300 assists she gathered in 2019, surpassing her current second highest number of 258 assists in 2018.

    With a total of 2,109 assists so far this year, Sloot is currently 236 assists behind Lindsey Whelan (2,345 assists). As Seacat said above, she should move into 3 place on the all-time assists leaderboard by mid-season next year. Sloot is currently 491 assists behind 2nd place Ticha Penicheiro (2,600 assists). After the remainder of this year, CV should be about 400 assists behind Ticha, and assuming continued good health, Sloot should catch Ticha for #2 sometime in the backhalf of season 2023. To become #1 in assists, she will need to play, injury free, about 4 more years longer than Sue Bird but she is catching Bird at about 100 assists per season, so depending on how long Bird continues to play, maybe it may take playing only 3+ years after Bird retires to get to #1 on the list.

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    Sky trailing the Lynx by 4 at the half. No Parker today, and Quigley gets the starting nod instead of DeShields. Sloot found her offense. 16 points on 6-8 shooting, including an 10 point barrage in about a minute just before the half. Quigley has 15. If only the rest of the team could contribute something. The other 3 starters have combined for 5 points, 8 points from the bench (6 from DeShields).

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    The usual. Chicago just can't defend. Scored 95, and still lost by 6. Sloot and Quigley each scored 27, on a combined 20-30 shooting. 8 assists for Sloot. Copper and Dolson finally got going a bit in the 2nd half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    The usual. Chicago just can't defend. Scored 95, and still lost by 6. Sloot and Quigley each scored 27, on a combined 20-30 shooting. 8 assists for Sloot. Copper and Dolson finally got going a bit in the 2nd half.
    Yep. If you score 95, no excuse to lose the game.

    Minnesota shot 54% overall and 62.5% from 3. Fowles shot 6-9, McBride 5-10, Clarendon 8-12, and Dangerfield 5-8. Tough to win, when it is lay-up after lay-up.

    Ever since Fowles left the Sky, Chicago has not had a consistent defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagDad84 View Post
    Yep. If you score 95, no excuse to lose the game.

    Minnesota shot 54% overall and 62.5% from 3. Fowles shot 6-9, McBride 5-10, Clarendon 8-12, and Dangerfield 5-8. Tough to win, when it is lay-up after lay-up.

    Ever since Fowles left the Sky, Chicago has not had a consistent defense.

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    Wasn't Parker the DPOY last season? I mean it was a complete joke (should've been Alysha Clark), and she's missed quite a few games this year, but her addition seems to have had zero impact on their defensive prowess. Actually her addition has had zero impact overall I'd say. They're exactly as mediocre as they were last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    Wasn't Parker the DPOY last season? I mean it was a complete joke (should've been Alysha Clark), and she's missed quite a few games this year, but her addition seems to have had zero impact on their defensive prowess. Actually her addition has had zero impact overall I'd say. They're exactly as mediocre as they were last season.
    Yep, how has that big time trade helped the Sky?

    DeSheilds and Copper have the ability to dominate their opposition (offensively) but they are so inconsistent, they cant be counted on game after game. Sloot and Quigley are not the fleetest of foot, so the Sky need somebody in the post to cover the slicers, but Dolson never has been that person (offensive minded). The Sky have a similar problem to the Lady Zags, too frequently they provide too much "help" defense, leaving people absolutely wide open.

    Sigh, another season thrown away by the Sky.

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    Sky was up big early, had to hang on against a BAD Atlanta team (they've lost 16 of 18 I think). Sloot w/ 12 pts/10 assists/5 reb, 5-10 shooting. Parker was back and actually had a good game, 18/9. Quigley led them again w/ 21 pts.

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    Top 8 teams make the playoffs. Seeds #1 & #2 get a double bye into the semi-finals. Seeds #3 & #4 get a single bye into the quarterfinals. Seeds #5 thru #8 play in the first round. Teams will be re-seeded after each round.

    Chicago Sky are now in 6th place out of a 12 team league. The Sky are 2 games behind 5th place Phoenix and 3 games out of 4th place Minnesota with 8 games remaining. Conversely, the Sky are 2 games out of 7th, 8th and 9th and 2.5 games out of 10th place. With their remaining games, 4 are on the road and 4 are at home with 6 games against teams currently above them in the standings including 2 against #3 Seattle, 1 against #5 Phoenix and 3 against #2 Las Vegas. Good news is that the Sky have played much better on the road (8-4) then they have at home (4-8). Bad news is that in the last 10 games, the Sky are only 5-5 and every team above them has a winning record in their last 10 games so the likelihood of the Sky moving up in the standings is remote. Good news is that every team below them in the standings has a losing record in their last 10 games, so the likelihood of the Sky falling out of the playoffs is small, but don't put anything past the Sky at the end of the Season. They could easily tank in the last 8 games of the season and fall completely out of the playoffs.

    For those keeping up with the Sloot assist watch, Sloot has averaged 10.5 apg over the last 13 games. Sloot is also leading the WNBA in steals per game at 2.0. If CV continues at this pace, the 2.0 spg would be her highest number ever in her 11 years in the league by a bunch. Her previous best average is 1.4 spg which she has done 3 times in her career. If Sloot continues at this pace with steals, she will break into the Top-20 all-time in steals next year. It will take her about 4 more years (3 years after next year) to get into the Top-10 all-time in steals.

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    Last edited by ZagDad84; 08-26-2021 at 10:18 AM.

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    Sky vs Seattle tonight 7:00 PM PST on NBA TV.

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    Also on Joe TV in the Puget Sound area. This game is UGLY!

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    Well what do you know? Sky beat the Storm, and they didn't even play particularly well. Copper was great. Trailed almost the whole way but took the lead late. Sloot w/ 7 pts/8 assists/4 rebs.

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