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    Default Kaden Perry - Back Update

    Thought I would post this to see if anyone has anything to add on the severity of the injury.

    https://www.slipperstillfits.com/202...n-perry-injury

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    Let's just hope that Kaden has the best doctors available to him. November is a long way away, though.
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    There are way too many things it could be to speculate with much usefulness. Shem had that terrible experience with his, which is rare for a young guy, and I think it was complicated by an infection. I’ve seen guys in their twenties ready to rock and roll almost immediately after microdiscectomy/laminectomy decompression surgery (assuming the (almost) worst case scenario; a fusion would be exceedingly rare for his demographic). These were not high level college athletes, though, as far as activity level and physical demands. They usually make you go through 6 weeks of conservative treatment before an MRI unless there are compelling findings on exam/history. Often times an injection is tried before surgery, but if it’s bad enough or the wrong kind of bad (lower extremity weakness, for example) the case could be made for surgery right away. It’s kind of the Wild West with this stuff.

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    I'm still thinking its more muscular but I really don't know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Vulture View Post
    I'm still thinking its more muscular but I really don't know for sure.
    The literature supports the idea that most back issues get better within 6 weeks and the standard of care (at least down here in AZ) is to try to manage things conservatively for 6 weeks before requesting an MRI. You are basically stalling while the body heals itself so that you don’t do unnecessary, invasive procedures. A shot early on is to help with pain and buy time while the body heals itself. It seems that with college and pro athletes they jump ahead in that process as a general rule. A high school kid is probably stuck with the slower approach unless someone wants to pay full price for an MRI.

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    I hurt my back in college, and was down in bed for 3 days. 3 weeks later I felt back to 100%. Kaden is young and will probably heal quickly. Can’t imagine this being a major issue come summer.
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    It seems as if Kaden has had a few injuries. I think we are pretty low on depth next year inside. Maybe we dont give the last scholarship to a walk on and try to get a little more size inside for depth purposes as a precaution to Kaden being ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagsfanforlife View Post
    It seems as if Kaden has had a few injuries. I think we are pretty low on depth next year inside. Maybe we dont give the last scholarship to a walk on and try to get a little more size inside for depth purposes as a precaution to Kaden being ready?
    It seems that Few would rather play a small guy at the 4 (eg Kispert, Pendo, Ira!) than a less skilled walk-on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    It seems that Few would rather play a small guy at the 4 (eg Kispert, Pendo, Ira!) than a less skilled walk-on.
    So wouldn’t you agree we should utilize our last scholarship for someone who can actually play and not reward a walk on? The depth inside could be an issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagsfanforlife View Post
    So wouldn’t you agree we should utilize our last scholarship for someone who can actually play and not reward a walk on? The depth inside could be an issue
    I’m cool with whatever. I probably shouldn’t have posted a reply because it might have come across critical when it wasn’t intended that way. Last year was frustrating for me because we had lack of depth down there despite two 7-footers warming the bench. I always like when a walk-on is rewarded with a scholarship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    It seems that Few would rather play a small guy at the 4 (eg Kispert, Pendo, Ira!) than a less skilled walk-on.
    Gonna see Strawther in that role this year I think.

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    Strawther lists as a guard
    but 6'8" and his weight is good size

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    lemme know when someone actually has an update on kaden's back injury

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonzaGAW View Post
    lemme know when someone actually has an update on kaden's back injury
    Yep, as usual the subject morphs into something that has nothing to do with the initial subject. It's very irritating for sure.

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    Per the Locked on Zags podcast, Kaden Perry has been shut down for the year.

    As an aside, per the same podcast, Coach Few is going to be on Ammo's podcast today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    Per the Locked on Zags podcast, Kaden Perry has been shut down for the year.

    As an aside, per the same podcast, Coach Few is going to be on Ammo's podcast today...
    Thanks for that info. But when you say he is going to be shut down for the year - is that his senior year of basketball or is it his freshman year at GU? I’m assuming it is high school and not his first college year. Thanks

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    - thx jp
    - any clarification on what does the year mean?
    - hopefully the short high school basketball season, or even perhaps aau summer ball
    - terrible news if for the year mean all the rest of 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsnider View Post
    Thanks for that info. But when you say he is going to be shut down for the year - is that his senior year of basketball or is it his freshman year at GU? I’m assuming it is high school and not his first college year. Thanks
    Highschool, from what I understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    Highschool, from what I understand.
    Too often with young athletes they don't do enough to diagnose back injury causes, which can leads to long road of re-inury or uncertainty.

    I sincerely hope they seek out why his back "seized" up...and not just 'rest it'.

    Is it a bulged disc, a small herniation, natural stenosis, facet joint issue, compression, etc.

    Get to the bottom of it and treat it now.

    Insurance companies often get in the way of back injury diagnosis. Resting, going thru PT, specialists, etc before any imaging or seeing a spine doctor (neuro or ortho).

    When you lose function of your lower extremities, that isn't just a pulled muscle.

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    Not sure what caused it to seize up, but I am sure they will get to the bottom of it. Ultimately he'll likely be just fine with treatment/rest, but they said he was still "at home in bed", so that is a little concerning.

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    - so the high school season is a wash. well that in deed is a bummer for kaden, a senior wanting one more go round with his high school team.

    - i'm gonna read the tea leaves optimistically....coach saying just not enough time to heal up given the SHORT basketball season (which is only 4-5 weeks long. no post season play this year). i read if it had been a regular season 12 weeks long, then maybe kaden could of had time to get better and return........just my optimistic read of what might be between the lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonzaGAW View Post
    - so the high school season is a wash. well that in deed is a bummer for kaden, a senior wanting one more go round with his high school team.

    - i'm gonna read the tea leaves optimistically....coach saying just not enough time to heal up given the SHORT basketball season (which is only 4-5 weeks long. no post season play this year). i read if it had been a regular season 12 weeks long, then maybe kaden could of had time to get better and return........just my optimistic read of what might be between the lines.
    the high school season in washington was shortened and limited I believe they were going to get 14 games no playoffs

    Banchero (duke) and Christofilis (creighton) Odea boys not even playing high school basketball this spring

    strange times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Therunner View Post
    Too often with young athletes they don't do enough to diagnose back injury causes, which can leads to long road of re-inury or uncertainty.

    I sincerely hope they seek out why his back "seized" up...and not just 'rest it'.

    Is it a bulged disc, a small herniation, natural stenosis, facet joint issue, compression, etc.

    Get to the bottom of it and treat it now.

    Insurance companies often get in the way of back injury diagnosis. Resting, going thru PT, specialists, etc before any imaging or seeing a spine doctor (neuro or ortho).

    When you lose function of your lower extremities, that isn't just a pulled muscle.
    Loss of lower extremity function ( all or part) usually opens the door to immediate imaging and treatment based on symptoms and what the images show.

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    I'm not sure how much one can read into it, but Kaden Perry was photographed on campus:

    https://twitter.com/Coach_Melo/statu...412772873?s=20


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