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  • zagzilla
    Zag for Life
    • Feb 2007
    • 2494

    Best Zag team ever is...?

    There has been some chatter this year about which Zags team is the best of all time. Consensus on GUB was that it would be impossible to rank the 2020-21 Zags until we saw how the season finished. Now we know.

    So...Which Zags team is the best and why? And by "best" let's say who would win a hypothetical best of 7 series.

    • Is it the 2020-21 Zags who made it to the Championship game but got blown out? Transcendent player in Suggs with Kispert, Timme, Nemby, Ayayi. Zags ranked #1 the entire season, flirted with perfection and put up some historic numbers for offensive efficiency. The team had a record 4 All Americans, Malone and Erving award winners and a couple of potential lottery picks. Few was named COY along the way.
    • Or is it the 2016-17 Zags that also went to the Championship game and arguably should have won it? Star-laden with NWG, JW3, Karnowski, Z Collins, Matthews, Rui, Tillie, Norvell. Ranked the entire season, only 2 losses and led the country in defense. Multiple NBA players including a Lottery pick-ZBo. NWG was an All-American and Academic-AA, Karno won Jabbar award and was AA honorable mention. Few was named COY.
    • What about the 2014-15 team with Sabonis, Karnowski, Pangos, Wiltjer and GBJ that led late vs. eventual champs, Duke, in the E8? Multiple NBA players including a future all-star, Wiltjer & Pangos garner AA's. Balanced front court/back court attack.
    • Or maybe the 2018-19 team was also stacked with Rui, Clarke, Tillie, Petrusev, Norvell & Perkins. Elite 8 team with multiple NBA first rounders. Finished with 4 losses. Rui & BC are All-Americans. Ranked #1 at end of regular season


    Who would prevail in this group?

    Are there other Zags teams that are worth considering?

    ZZ
  • jazzdelmar
    Zag for Life
    • Feb 2007
    • 22838

    #2
    2017, talented and deep. Back benchers Rui and Tils are now in the NBA, for example. Norvell was shirting. Goss was as good/better than Suggsy in many ways as a collegian.

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    • ZagNut08
      Zag for Life
      • Feb 2007
      • 2368

      #3
      2017 for me, more balanced, seemed like better shooters and interior defense.

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      • IowaSERE
        Bleeds GU Blue
        • Oct 2008
        • 848

        #4
        2017 team was up in the National Championship game with 2 min to go. 2021 was tied at 0-0 at one point.

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        • TexasZagFan
          Zag for Life
          • Feb 2007
          • 10548

          #5
          Why did you leave out 2019-2020? Kispert, Tillie, Petrusev, Timme, Ayayi, Gilder, Woolridge. Pretty talented group.

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          • katman50
            Zag for Life
            • Feb 2007
            • 1589

            #6
            2017. Hands down.

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            • gonzagafan62
              Zag for Life
              • Nov 2013
              • 9120

              #7
              Originally posted by TexasZagFan View Post
              Why did you leave out 2019-2020? Kispert, Tillie, Petrusev, Timme, Ayayi, Gilder, Woolridge. Pretty talented group.
              It’s a shame that they never got a tourney. Also a 1 seed. Sucks that they didn’t get their shot
              Qualified for 26 Straight Big Dances

              15 Straight Round of 32s

              14 Sweet Sixteens (9 Straight)

              6 Elite Eights

              2017 AND 2021 FINAL FOUR

              2 Winningest Players in college basketball history (Karnowski 137, Perkins 134)

              2021 Undefeated Regular Season

              The Best Point Guard to ever play the game: John Stockton, most assists, most steals.

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              • zagzilla
                Zag for Life
                • Feb 2007
                • 2494

                #8
                Originally posted by TexasZagFan View Post
                Why did you leave out 2019-2020? Kispert, Tillie, Petrusev, Timme, Ayayi, Gilder, Woolridge. Pretty talented group.
                Very well should have included them. They could have done damage as a 1 seed playing its first 2 in Spokane. Assuming Tillie is on the floor for the imaginary best of 7 series, then these guys might be better than either 2021 or 2017. Front court is solid with FP and Timme, wings are dangerous with Tills and Corey and the guards can defend and shoot.

                I predict this team will be overlooked in future years because it didn’t play in the tourney, lacked a charismatic “star”, Filip left, Tillie missed a lot of time and Woolly & Gilder were rent-a-guards. No NBA draft picks either (though Tillie signed after). 3/5 of that lineup were prominent for a relatively few games-even though they won over 30 of them.

                ZZ

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                • JPtheBeasta
                  Zag for Life
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 6050

                  #9
                  The team that lost to Texas Tech was also very good.

                  I feel that this year’s team over achieved based on the construction of the lineup. If I was going to pick the team with the best chemistry, this team will be it. It is also hard to argue with their record.

                  I would have to go with the first national title runner-up team, based on their combination of results and roster, which didn’t really have an Achilles heel.

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                  • SwainZag
                    Kennel Club
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 371

                    #10
                    Originally posted by zagzilla View Post
                    There has been some chatter this year about which Zags team is the best of all time. Consensus on GUB was that it would be impossible to rank the 2020-21 Zags until we saw how the season finished. Now we know.

                    So...Which Zags team is the best and why? And by "best" let's say who would win a hypothetical best of 7 series.

                    • Is it the 2020-21 Zags who made it to the Championship game but got blown out? Transcendent player in Suggs with Kispert, Timme, Nemby, Ayayi. Zags ranked #1 the entire season, flirted with perfection and put up some historic numbers for offensive efficiency. The team had a record 4 All Americans, Malone and Erving award winners and a couple of potential lottery picks. Few was named COY along the way.
                    • Or is it the 2016-17 Zags that also went to the Championship game and arguably should have won it? Star-laden with NWG, JW3, Karnowski, Z Collins, Matthews, Rui, Tillie, Norvell. Ranked the entire season, only 2 losses and led the country in defense. Multiple NBA players including a Lottery pick-ZBo. NWG was an All-American and Academic-AA, Karno won Jabbar award and was AA honorable mention. Few was named COY.
                    • What about the 2014-15 team with Sabonis, Karnowski, Pangos, Wiltjer and GBJ that led late vs. eventual champs, Duke, in the E8? Multiple NBA players including a future all-star, Wiltjer & Pangos garner AA's. Balanced front court/back court attack.
                    • Or maybe the 2018-19 team was also stacked with Rui, Clarke, Tillie, Petrusev, Norvell & Perkins. Elite 8 team with multiple NBA first rounders. Finished with 4 losses. Rui & BC are All-Americans. Ranked #1 at end of regular season


                    Who would prevail in this group?

                    Are there other Zags teams that are worth considering?

                    ZZ
                    Norvell wasn't on the 16-17 team. Rui also played very sparingly that season.

                    I would take the 20/21 in a heartbeat. I think too many of you are only remembering the Baylor game and not the rest of the season. For the record, I loved the 16/17 team. But this year's squad is the least selfish most balanced Zags team I have ever seen.

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                    • zagfan08
                      Zag for Life
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1825

                      #11
                      Easy to just default to 2017 after Monday but Baylor would have blown out that Carolina team too. This year’s Gonzaga team beats 2017 UNC.

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                      • Ladyzag12
                        Kennel Club Material
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 257

                        #12
                        2021 no question.

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                        • gueastcoast
                          Zag for Life
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 2594

                          #13
                          A contrary view, but I think the 2018/19 team is undervalued in these responses. Not saying they're the best with clear conviction, but with a properly called TT game...sigh
                          Your children have been placed in the custody of...Carl's Jr.

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                          • TexasZagFan
                            Zag for Life
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 10548

                            #14
                            IMO, the best Gonzaga team ever has yet to step on the floor of the Kennel.

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                            • Vanilla Gorilla
                              Redshirt
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 18

                              #15
                              For the last 7 years, encompassing our Sweet 16 run, I would rank them
                              1. 2016-17 - closest we came to climbing the mountain
                              2. 2020-21 - great team, obviously outclassed in the final
                              3. 2018-19 - I think we were the best team in the country that year but just ran into a hot TT team
                              4. 2019-20 - really good, but defensive deficiencies probably limited the ceiling, but we'll never know
                              5. 2017-18 - what happens if Tillie doesn't get hurt
                              6. 2014-15 - great team, but small backcourt limits upside compared to the last 5 years
                              7. 2015-16 - most losses in the last 10 years with 8 (which is an incredible stat)

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