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    Default The Sensitivity on the Creighton Board is Hilarious

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    Will and I post our analysis of the Zags, and their Board, with the exception of sili takes great umbrage.

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    Why don’t you raise the issues of Mac’s multiple improprieties — the still salted away and never resolved recruiting payoffs and his dumb comment that’s cost him at least one four star recruit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
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    Will and I post our analysis of the Zags, and their Board, with the exception of sili takes great umbrage.
    The Big East has always had some harsh boards. This is definitely no exception. But it’s nowhere near as bad as Xavier or St Johns at least lol. Seton Hall wasn’t that great either

    Yet “we” are the entitled ones somehow. Yeah ok. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
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    Will and I post our analysis of the Zags, and their Board, with the exception of sili takes great umbrage.
    Sili comes off a little salty too. His defense of the Gun-zaw-ga pronunciation is just plain wrong. You call someone or something what they want to be called. The Gonzaga website has a little tutorial on how to pronounce it. What does it matter how the Italians pronounce it? Should we criticize those who don’t pronounce Detroit, de-twa? Or St Louis, san-loo-ee? (Both French settlements)

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    If Creighton wins it will be a major accomplishment. I am not saying this as an entitled fan. Every way I look at this from the numbers and personnel, I don’t see a path to victory for Creighton. They will need great individual efforts from multiple players to win— on both ends of the court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    If Creighton wins it will be a major accomplishment. I am not saying this as an entitled fan. Every way I look at this from the numbers and personnel, I don’t see a path to victory for Creighton. They will need great individual efforts from multiple players to win— on both ends of the court.
    If I'm a Creighton fan, I worry about which team will show up: the team that played Villanova and Kansas close, or the one that was blown out by Georgetown?

    The Zags are hitting their stride, and will be super focused on their next opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    If Creighton wins it will be a major accomplishment. I am not saying this as an entitled fan. Every way I look at this from the numbers and personnel, I don’t see a path to victory for Creighton. They will need great individual efforts from multiple players to win— on both ends of the court.
    Yes and as we’ve seen in this tournament anything is possible. Anything. But yes would be a heck of an accomplishment. I’m not sure why they’d want to diminish that.
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    This one is funny:

    "My only early analysis is the Jays beat Nova which is a sweet 16 team and the Zags play in a very weak conference and have not beaten a sweet 16 team. I don't think your Zags are battled tested not enough close games, Jays win in a dogfight as we are tougher then the Zags."

    Um, the Jays also lost to Barttorvik's #33 Kansas, #66 Marquette, #119 Butler, #58 Providence, #52 Georgetown (twice, including a March 13 game by 25 points), #59 Xavier, #14 Villanova.

    Are we supposed to be impressed that 7 of their wins were by 5 points or less? I think I'm happier with double-digit wins, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrooner View Post
    This one is funny:

    "My only early analysis is the Jays beat Nova which is a sweet 16 team and the Zags play in a very weak conference and have not beaten a sweet 16 team. I don't think your Zags are battled tested not enough close games, Jays win in a dogfight as we are tougher then the Zags."

    Um, the Jays also lost to Barttorvik's #33 Kansas, #66 Marquette, #119 Butler, #58 Providence, #52 Georgetown (twice, including a March 13 game by 25 points), #59 Xavier, #14 Villanova.

    Are we supposed to be impressed that 7 of their wins were by 5 points or less? I think I'm happier with double-digit wins, thanks.
    I’ve never gotten the whole “battle tested” perception anyways. It really is a load of crap lol. We have had close games in the tournament in 99, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2010, 2014, 2017, 2018 over major program teams and won games each of those years.

    And that’s not even including all the double digit wins we have against the same type of programs. Battle tested is for people that have no reason to bet against us - who can’t come up with a reason so they just throw the gibberish. I think it’s funny to be honest. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    I’ve never gotten the whole “battle tested” perception anyways. It really is a load of crap lol. We have had close games in the tournament in 99, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2010, 2014, 2017, 2018 over major program teams and won games each of those years.

    And that’s not even including all the double digit wins we have against the same type of programs. Battle tested is for people that have no reason to bet against us - who can’t come up with a reason so they just throw the gibberish. I think it’s funny to be honest. Lol
    It seems we should have let Kansas let and Iowa hang around like we did West Virginia. Then we would've been "battle tested."
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    I give credit to Oklahoma, if that's not a battle testing game, I don't know what is. Oklahoma has an enrollment exceeding 28,000, and they will always be able to recruit top flight athletes. That was one physical, hard fought game.

    I just think the Zags do a better job of recruiting basketball players who are also elite athletes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagdontzig View Post
    It seems we should have let Kansas let and Iowa hang around like we did West Virginia. Then we would've been "battle tested."
    The perception would then be “Zags got lucky in those games and they were in December, They don’t count”

    It’s how it always goes. People who can’t form their own opinions and listen to Guys like Jay Williams and Seth Greenberg say these things. It’s awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
    I give credit to Oklahoma, if that's not a battle testing game, I don't know what is. Oklahoma has an enrollment exceeding 28,000, and they will always be able to recruit top flight athletes. That was one physical, hard fought game.

    I just think the Zags do a better job of recruiting basketball players who are also elite athletes.
    Agree 100%. They blocked a ton of our shots, played really good defense and never let us have too much of a run. Their offense wasn’t as good, but Reeves kept it close. That guy is a dang player. Oklahoma gave us a tough challenge on both sides of the ball. I expect Creighton to do the same
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    Our board seems very confident about this game and I'm afraid we're underestimating Creighton somewhat. They're significantly better than Oklahoma and BYU IMO, and are dangerous when they're clicking. I'm more worried about them than either USC or Oregon. They start 5 upperclassmen and are a strong and athletic bunch. Zegarowski and Ballock are both career 40%+ three point shooters. These are the type of guys that can be a nightmare to face in a tournament environment.

    Our team is great, but we're not unbeatable. The WCC championship being close until the final minutes before Suggs hit some massive shots should be a great reminder of that. And of course, we handled Oklahoma, but they gave us a good fight without their second leading scorer.

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    Those are some long-winded and prickly bros over there on that site, SiliconZag included. Found myself shaking my head more than a few times reading those posts.

    I thought I was guilty of logorrhea and being a know-it-all at times, but I've got nothing on those folks.

    I don't underestimate Creighton at all -- that's a good team and over the years I've tended to pull for them other than when they're playing us. I'll try not to hold their fan base against them j/k
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    In other news, St. Ignatius Loyola is over the moon with two Jesuit schools in the Sweet Sixteen. He says, “I love all my Jesuit schools, but some more than others and Creighton is really my favorite. Creighton University is, beyond a doubt, the greatest enterprise in the world today.”

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    Cool, they have a board for grammar school children.

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    I think there are 3 Jesuit schools in the Sweet Sixteen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog View Post
    I think there are 3 Jesuit schools in the Sweet Sixteen
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoZag View Post
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    Based on some of the BJU respondents, it appears Mr. Tuxedo isn't a beloved member in good standing.

    With the 7 day interregnum, I suppose bulletin board wars are a harmless pursuit.

    All Zags should let the scoreboard do the talking for them.
    I had similar thoughts. Scoreboard > message board

    I like Creighton and don't want reasons to like them less, to be honest. I also like Sili, and he was pretty frank about rooting for Creighton the last time the Zags played them, IIRC (although I have proven to have a cloudy memory of that game recently).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23dpg View Post

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    That was the word I was looking for in my previous post - yes. I mean, it's college bball for crying out loud
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    Let’s just win this and move one. Most of my friends in the Creighton system look at this game like a win win. If Zags win , great. If Jays win, great. I’m not so sure I subscribe to that. I want our guys to win this and a title. I want a title next year too fully know undefeated seasons are rare for many reasons. As GU grad and one who was brought home to our first home on Nora, I’m still shocked at the amazing run since 99. This run and this season are like watching the impossible happen in real time. Love the Jays but when I was collecting Frank Burgess’ misses I. The old Russell theater as a youngin’ I know where my home is. I’ve spent academic time at Creighton, Duke, Harvard , Uw and UCLA. For some reason, I always shifted my thoughts to the NW and the campus. Let’s just win this one... the future is ours to build.

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    Originally, I thought it was one of the best we've seen. That was before they started convincing themselves we're nowhere near as good as we sure look to be.


    I am also one of the ones who simply worries about every game at this level bc a team can't get to the SS without the ability to get hot and just become madness.

    And, I don't worry too much about battle tested but there might be something to a team with a fantastic win record in "less than 5 pt wins," like 8-1, but that team also has to get within five.

    One of the great things about this team is that the sense of urgency hits hard if the lead ever gets to single digits in the 2nd half, Few is calling timeouts, etc. This team expects to be up big and "battle tested" might come into play when it gives up an 18-20 pt lead but then simply refuses to let it get less than 10. Playing like you "must" be up 10 is battle tested in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worthington View Post
    Our board seems very confident about this game and I'm afraid we're underestimating Creighton somewhat. They're significantly better than Oklahoma and BYU IMO, and are dangerous when they're clicking. I'm more worried about them than either USC or Oregon. They start 5 upperclassmen and are a strong and athletic bunch. Zegarowski and Ballock are both career 40%+ three point shooters. These are the type of guys that can be a nightmare to face in a tournament environment.

    Our team is great, but we're not unbeatable. The WCC championship being close until the final minutes before Suggs hit some massive shots should be a great reminder of that. And of course, we handled Oklahoma, but they gave us a good fight without their second leading scorer.
    Right now I think USC and Oregon are playing much better than Creighton. And I think USC would create big problems for us. Creighton is a very good team and they could beat us if we don’t come to play. But out of those three teams they scare me the least by far.

    Creighton’s a bit like a mirror image of Gonzaga, except that’s a grimy mirror you’d be looking at. We do almost everything better than them. And while they do shoot 3’s at a slightly higher rate (by a couple tenths of a percentage point), we are going to be better at defending the 3 point line than they are. Basically I think the Zags will out-defend them, and that will be the major factor in the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worthington View Post
    Our board seems very confident about this game and I'm afraid we're underestimating Creighton somewhat. They're significantly better than Oklahoma and BYU IMO, and are dangerous when they're clicking. I'm more worried about them than either USC or Oregon. They start 5 upperclassmen and are a strong and athletic bunch. Zegarowski and Ballock are both career 40%+ three point shooters. These are the type of guys that can be a nightmare to face in a tournament environment.

    Our team is great, but we're not unbeatable. The WCC championship being close until the final minutes before Suggs hit some massive shots should be a great reminder of that. And of course, we handled Oklahoma, but they gave us a good fight without their second leading scorer.
    With you on this Worthington. All that matters is how well Creighton is currently playing and they looked great vs Ohio in their last game. A team quite capable of scoring more points than Zags so while I’m confident Zags’ D will be up to the challenge and prove quite a bit more robust than what Ohio offered, this is not a game Zags should be over confident about.
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