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    I must have missed it, but what's the timeline on his injury? We really need him to be getting reps! Hope to see him soon.

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    3-4 weeks apparently. Will miss almost all of the rest of the regular season. I didn’t hear them say whether the injury occurred in a game or practice. Anybody know more?

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    I thought they said during practice. Zags have always been quiet about injuries.

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    I'm guessing it's a dislocation, given that it was his thumb and they didn't give it 6-8 weeks (which would make me think about a fracture)

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    Keep practicing shooting and passing with the other hand. Hurry back but only when it is ready.

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    Considering that Zakharov has rarely played this year even in garbage time, who gets the nod in place of Ballo? Do we go small ball? I doubt that Ben is up to speed yet / is he even capable? I'm not overly fond of counting on Watson at this point for point production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagamatic View Post
    Considering that Zakharov has rarely played this year even in garbage time, who gets the nod in place of Ballo? Do we go small ball? I doubt that Ben is up to speed yet / is he even capable? I'm not overly fond of counting on Watson at this point for point production.
    I think AC will get the extra 8-10 minutes Ballo was getting.

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    also see kispert at the 4 spot on rotation
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    Quote Originally Posted by zagamatic View Post
    I'm not overly fond of counting on Watson at this point for point production.
    I’m not overly concerned about replacing Ballo’s POINT production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonezagaga View Post
    I’m not overly concerned about replacing Ballo’s POINT production.
    I was referring to the possibility of Timme not being available for whatever reason. At least Ballo deliberately tries to score as compared to Watson who is a reluctant scorer. That's really the problem I think that most people have with Watson, it's like he actually doesn't WANT to score.

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    Well that didn’t last long

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagzilla View Post
    3-4 weeks apparently. Will miss almost all of the rest of the regular season. I didn’t hear them say whether the injury occurred in a game or practice. Anybody know more?

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    You said 3-4 weeks yesterday and yet he's in the game right now...

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    hes back, at least what i saw
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    He looks noticeably slimmer down from the start of the year. His defense wasn’t disciplined with the foul that Few yanked him out of the game right after, but it was good to see him out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempe85 View Post
    You said 3-4 weeks yesterday and yet he's in the game right now...
    I heard 4 weeks initially, too. Things can heal ahead of schedule. A prognosis is just a best guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempe85 View Post
    You said 3-4 weeks yesterday and yet he's in the game right now...
    That's what the announcers said last week. We are all happy he seems to be ahead of schedule. Did you notice that his left thumb was wrapped with black tape? Hope he is healthy.

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    It was immediately clear Ballo was a liability on Defense, then the dumb foul and bang..the hook. He needs to learn to bang underneath with more intensity on D and get more rebounds for his size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizZAG View Post
    It was immediately clear Ballo was a liability on Defense, then the dumb foul and bang..the hook. He needs to learn to bang underneath with more intensity on D and get more rebounds for his size.
    Heís not ready for prime time. Few was really trying to get him worked in to the lineup for much of this season due to a lack of depth. Itís clear that heís just not there. Honestly, I wonder if he can get there given his somewhat slow play. The game has evolved.

    Obviously heís young, so there is a good shot he can make the jump, but itís not a forgone conclusion based on what Iíve seen.

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    Watching last night, when the BYU guard dribbled down the court, staying in front of him, and then slowed to get the foul...I thought Ballo should have fallen forward, just accepted the contact, instead of trying to avoid it. See how the guard like 260 lbs falling on him.

    BUT, I do understand that that is more fantasy than what most athletes would actually do.
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    He is young. I have seen similar talk about young GU centers in the past.

    The position is not outdated.....see Luke Garza's bid for player of the year.

    It just takes longer to skill up that specific position for various reasons already laid out in past posts. We aren't talking about a hybrid 4/5 "positionless" faceup role here. We are talking about a true dedicated 5 position post player. A position typically most effective in a slower, half court style of offense. A position that is much less dependent upon fluidity and much more dependent upon muscle memory. The techniques are more nuanced. It just takes longer to master.

    What he should be immediately effective at is rebounding. Rebounding is intuitive hustle and desire. A player of Ballo's stature should be getting at least one "over the back" call per game as an indicator because that call inherently comes with aggressiveness. Then again, offensive rebounding suffers when your offense is shooting at 60%, or your teammates are flying down the court like gazelles and taking quick shots in transition. It isn't surprising that one of the gazelles is the leading rebounder.

    Where he should be shining is when the opposition attempts to turn the game into a rock fight. Ballo really needs to get that enforcer mentality that comes with defensively owning the rim. Players at his position typically struggle with foul trouble. It will come as he gains confidence. We all saw the evolution of Robert Sacre.

    What Mark Few has historically shown is an ability to adapt and shape his offensive scheme to fit any given roster. If Ballo matures into a great center, you will see the Zag offensive scheme adjust accordingly where Ballo will be used similarly to Karnowski. It entirely depends on the roster makeup and who becomes the strength of the roster. I'm not counting out young Ballo. His position just takes time to develop and he is a teenager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    He’s not ready for prime time. Few was really trying to get him worked in to the lineup for much of this season due to a lack of depth. It’s clear that he’s just not there. Honestly, I wonder if he can get there given his somewhat slow play. The game has evolved.

    Obviously he’s young, so there is a good shot he can make the jump, but it’s not a forgone conclusion based on what I’ve seen.
    He's just so young still. He will come into the mix as time and training come forward. He could use more conditioning, weight management and quickness with the feet, which I'm sure will be in the offing. If he can get the eye of tiger, it can only help - his size and height should pay dividends if he commits to getting above the rim and becoming a force. He'll get there I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    Heís not ready for prime time. Few was really trying to get him worked in to the lineup for much of this season due to a lack of depth. Itís clear that heís just not there. Honestly, I wonder if he can get there given his somewhat slow play. The game has evolved.

    Obviously heís young, so there is a good shot he can make the jump, but itís not a forgone conclusion based on what Iíve seen.
    There is nothing about his development that is surprising. I know some were talking one and done with him pushing to start. However, it's been well known within the program, that he is a three year type along the lines of Rui (development wise). I got ridiculed before the season when I said he'd play less than 10 minutes a game this year and was extremely raw, but it was true.

    With all that said, he is still going to be a beast when he fully gets it. You can see glimpses of skills that not every big has. He has pretty good hands, a feel for passing, and a soft touch. He needs to continue to get stronger, more physical inside (stronger with the ball), and just continue to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Vulture View Post
    There is nothing about his development that is surprising. I know some were talking one and done with him pushing to start. However, it's been well known within the program, that he is a three year type along the lines of Rui (development wise). I got ridiculed before the season when I said he'd play less than 10 minutes a game this year and was extremely raw, but it was true.

    With all that said, he is still going to be a beast when he fully gets it. You can see glimpses of skills that not every big has. He has pretty good hands, a feel for passing, and a soft touch. He needs to continue to get stronger, more physical inside (stronger with the ball), and just continue to learn.
    He also has shown an ability to mke free throws, something not every center can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    He’s not ready for prime time. Few was really trying to get him worked in to the lineup for much of this season due to a lack of depth. It’s clear that he’s just not there. Honestly, I wonder if he can get there given his somewhat slow play. The game has evolved.

    Obviously he’s young, so there is a good shot he can make the jump, but it’s not a forgone conclusion based on what I’ve seen.
    I agree. I don’t see more than a 12 minutes a game player for next year.
    I’ve been wrong before and would love to be wrong again. Definitely rooting for the kid.

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    He has incredible talent in front of him. He will figure it out.
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