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    Quote Originally Posted by DZ View Post
    You are right, I'm afraid.

    Unless he matured a great deal, took a look around, decided to be a piece of the puzzle and accept whatever to win. It's happened before.

    But, yes - you are right as we know it.
    HE hasnt. Daily he will post his stats on his instagram stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoZag View Post
    Daye, Bouldin, Heytvelt, Morrison, Wiltjer. . .want more ?
    Bouldin? Care to explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagsfanforlife View Post
    HE hasnt. Daily he will post his stats on his instagram stories.
    He is trying to get into nba. I bet is it a lot harder from Europe so he needs to “promote” himself. I am not sad he is gone, but I still think he was a decent Zag.
    Probably the only Gonzaga fan in Ireland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_eliZAG View Post
    He is trying to get into nba. I bet is it a lot harder from Europe so he needs to “promote” himself. I am not sad he is gone, but I still think he was a decent Zag.
    That’s not quite the path to the nba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plainsman View Post
    I would put Daye and Morrison on the list with him. The other three not so much.
    Morrison was most interested in winning. He had to win, and usually that required putting the team on his shoulders.

    “Self-involved” implies the individual over the team, which was simply not the case for Morrison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    Morrison was most interested in winning. He had to win, and usually that required putting the team on his shoulders.

    “Self-involved” implies the individual over the team, which was simply not the case for Morrison.
    Absolutely. Don’t recall Ammo ever stalking off the court and embarrassing his teammates. Plenty of hard looks between him and Raivio, however. Derek liked to get his, tough when you’re playing with a legendary scorer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    Morrison was most interested in winning. He had to win, and usually that required putting the team on his shoulders.

    “Self-involved” implies the individual over the team, which was simply not the case for Morrison.
    Mo was scoreboard involved.

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    Getting this back to Kispert, found another article on Corey that I wanted to share.

    https://sportsspectrum.com/sport/bas...UecbzgGZVWvMQ4

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    I think most of us watched that video of Kispert playing some summer hoops with a bunch of talented players (Jamal Crawford) between his Sr. year in HS and his Freshman year at GU. He lit them all up in that game we saw. I was higher on Kispert than any other freshman we've had recently until Suggs. The dude is a flat-out baller, has size, decent athleticism at the NBA level, and has one of the prettiest (not to mention consistent) jumpers I've seen for someone that large. His jumper is my 2nd favorite ever for a Zag. Frahm still holds the title. I really hope CK gets a lottery nod in the NBA and within a few years gets flat-out PAID.

    I love the comparison to Klay. Let it fly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rennis View Post
    I think most of us watched that video of Kispert playing some summer hoops with a bunch of talented players (Jamal Crawford) between his Sr. year in HS and his Freshman year at GU. He lit them all up in that game we saw. I was higher on Kispert than any other freshman we've had recently until Suggs. The dude is a flat-out baller, has size, decent athleticism at the NBA level, and has one of the prettiest (not to mention consistent) jumpers I've seen for someone that large. His jumper is my 2nd favorite ever for a Zag. Frahm still holds the title. I really hope CK gets a lottery nod in the NBA and within a few years gets flat-out PAID.

    I love the comparison to Klay. Let it fly!
    The offensive comparison is apt. Klay is an elite defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markburn1 View Post
    The offensive comparison is apt. Klay is an elite defender.
    What worries me about Corey is I've seen mock drafts landing him in the dumpster fire...then I remembered the Nets don't have a first round pick until 2027. I salivate at the notion of Corey playing alongside Luka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markburn1 View Post
    By that logic, they had enough information on Kispert to be drafted, at best, mid second round until...they added the information gleaned from his last twelve games.

    Ayayi’s last four have been stellar. I have no doubt his next twenty, if they play that many, will be enough to move him dramatically up the draft board.
    Not at all what I said. In fact, if you read previously I addressed this directly.

    The difference is that Corey improved the areas the NBA had an issue with by coming back. As for Ayayi, I said he has the same situation looming where he can work on what the NBA is concerned with and come back to show those areas. He could also just choose to go in the draft as he’d be a second rounder this year.

    I don’t get why saying anything about a players game in context, regardless of true or not, is an issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Malastein View Post
    Hard to predict exact draft position since a bad GM will pass on a really good player(see Clarke, Brandon), but I firmly believe that the Zags will have Kispert, Ayayi, and Suggs all go in the first round. I could see Ayayi potentially returning, but I think he’ll be projected as a top 20 pick by season’s end. His defense has improved immensely from last year, and his passing and rebounding have both been top notch. He, like Corey, has improved by leaps and bounds every year. Ayayi is a huge part of what the Zags are doing this year, and he is showing the ability to play the point. The biggest knock on him is that he hasn’t proven to be a consistent outside shooter, but his shot isn’t broken either. His game is somewhere in between Rajon Rondo and Draymond Green. He’s going to be drafted lower than he should be, but I think he’ll have a long career in the NBA.

    I also think Timme will develop his game to fit what teams will want of him in the NBA. He’s a good passer for a post player, has great footwork, and can handle the ball off of rebounds. He is missing an outside shot, but he also doesn’t take many bad shots. I think Timme stays 1 more season before turning pro though, but who knows...
    Honest question, what do you think Ayayi can do in the remaining season to address the NBA concerns and jump 20 plus spots in the draft rankings?

    We all love our Zags players, but productivity at the college level is not the end all in the draft. My personal feeling is that Joel can play for many years in the NBA but I also think there is very little chance (near zero) he’d be a first rounder this year. Whether that affects his decision is a tough call. Can he take those next steps, like Kispert did, to move up boards from the mid second round to mid first round by coming back?


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    Video interview from Alyssa Charleston with Corey, from the GU Men's FB Page:

    https://www.facebook.com/ZagMBB/videos/246788186966539

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Vulture View Post
    Honest question, what do you think Ayayi can do in the remaining season to address the NBA concerns and jump 20 plus spots in the draft rankings?

    We all love our Zags players, but productivity at the college level is not the end all in the draft. My personal feeling is that Joel can play for many years in the NBA but I also think there is very little chance (near zero) he’d be a first rounder this year. Whether that affects his decision is a tough call. Can he take those next steps, like Kispert did, to move up boards from the mid second round to mid first round by coming back?


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    A consistent 3-ball with a decent release time. That doesn’t happen in the middle of the season, however.

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    So happy for Joel.

    I KNEW he was very young, but I wouldve bet my life that as a Redshirt-Junior he had already turned 21yrs old. WOW he is still two months from 21 holy cow.

    Suggestion to fans, look around at all these draft boards annually, and look at how too-old for their grade these prospects are. This pisses me off so much because you have HS guys that are 18.5 years old that are 5 star, meanwhile they should be at least a freshman in college and could even be a SOPHOMORE if they were a regular student. Recruiting rankings in my opinion need to be adjusted and LIST the kids age. You have players separated by a full year or year and a half and yet are judged against one another.

    Once again Zag fans, I think Mark Few and co. get this and dont fall for the hype.

    Joel should absolutely be taken in the 1st round, NBA teams know that his upside is still years away, and has shown how he improves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DZ View Post
    Good post.

    I'd like to see Timmie put on 15 lbs of muscle, all of it in his shoulders and hips
    And his 3-pt shot

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    Kispert will be interviewed on ESPN2 in a few minutes - during halftime pf the Memphis game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRHUradio View Post
    So happy for Joel.

    I KNEW he was very young, but I wouldve bet my life that as a Redshirt-Junior he had already turned 21yrs old. WOW he is still two months from 21 holy cow.

    Suggestion to fans, look around at all these draft boards annually, and look at how too-old for their grade these prospects are. This pisses me off so much because you have HS guys that are 18.5 years old that are 5 star, meanwhile they should be at least a freshman in college and could even be a SOPHOMORE if they were a regular student. Recruiting rankings in my opinion need to be adjusted and LIST the kids age. You have players separated by a full year or year and a half and yet are judged against one another.

    Once again Zag fans, I think Mark Few and co. get this and dont fall for the hype.

    Joel should absolutely be taken in the 1st round, NBA teams know that his upside is still years away, and has shown how he improves.
    Kispert and Ayayi were in the same recruiting class. Kispert's birthday is March 5 and Ayayi's in March 3, but Kispert was born in 1999 and Ayayi 2000. The ESPN NBA draft guy said during the SMC game Ayayi would hear his name called this year in the 2nd round if he came out, or he could be a 1st round pick next year if he improved. If Ayayi could make the same jump he has the last 2 years he could definitely be a 1st rounder next year. He could be the leader of the number #1 team next year, just like Kispert this year. I wouldnt be surprised if he came back.

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    Kispert interview during halftime of last night Arizona vs Arizona State game:

    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/
    Scroll down page to find video link. Can’t link directly to it
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    Corey is creeping into the lottery. Pretty awesome.

    I can see Ayayi giving it a shot since he’s already tested the waters, but he’ll need to become a more consistent shooter to have a chance to stay in the league.

    Timme is not an NBA player right now. Have to expect he returns unless he gets some bad advice (or he wants to make money overseas instead of play in college, which doesn’t really seem like him). Timme is more likely a 4 year player than 2 and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    A consistent 3-ball with a decent release time. That doesn’t happen in the middle of the season, however.
    I agree with that completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Vulture View Post
    Honest question, what do you think Ayayi can do in the remaining season to address the NBA concerns and jump 20 plus spots in the draft rankings?

    We all love our Zags players, but productivity at the college level is not the end all in the draft. My personal feeling is that Joel can play for many years in the NBA but I also think there is very little chance (near zero) he’d be a first rounder this year. Whether that affects his decision is a tough call. Can he take those next steps, like Kispert did, to move up boards from the mid second round to mid first round by coming back?


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    Movement on the draft board can also happen because other players in the draft drop(I have never liked BJ Boston since I saw him play in high school). I think the growth he has shown will be reflected in smart team’s draft boards. He is our Draymond/Rondo, and there is no way the Zags are undefeated without him. All Joel has to do is keeping bringing it night in and night out, and scouts will pick up on the nuance of his game.

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    Three big reasons why Kispert is going to prosper at the next level:

    Quick release while continuously improving upon his compact motion without sacrificing accuracy
    Fundamental skills more than adequate: 6' 7" and can jump. Ball handling skills dramatically improved.
    Exceptionally smart in every facet: situational awareness, self confidence, preparation, comprehension, leadership, media interaction/team representation, love of the game. All mental aspects covered in spades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malastein View Post
    Movement on the draft board can also happen because other players in the draft drop(I have never liked BJ Boston since I saw him play in high school). I think the growth he has shown will be reflected in smart team’s draft boards. He is our Draymond/Rondo, and there is no way the Zags are undefeated without him. All Joel has to do is keeping bringing it night in and night out, and scouts will pick up on the nuance of his game.
    If you say so, I will stick with the mid second round projections at this point. That doesn't mean he that he won't go anyway, he's just not going to be a first round pick this year.

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