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    Ok let me start with the Portland 2nd half of game I watched this afternoon. Three players really impressed me one was a surprise out of no where lets start with her, after talking about the coach. Even though I know the Lady Zags inside and out not the case with other teams players in the WCC, so often when I scout other teams players jump out of no where on me today that was the case.

    Portland beat St. Marys by 23 points. But in the 2nd half it looked like Major League playing against Minors.

    First of all let me say I was really impressed by Portlands coach Meeks again today. He full courted pressed St. Mary's a majority of the 2nd half. And St. Mary's was clueless against the full court press (reminds me of the Zags last year having problems with the same thing). Coach Meeks frequently substituted keeping his players fresh for the full court press and all the players coming off the bench were energized and executed the full court press impressively. Coach Meeks played 14 players today. Looks like to me Coach Dad Meeks found a secret weapon tonight with his Freshman daughter coming off the bench.

    #1 Meeks (5'7") she came off the bench in the 2nd half, she is a 3 point specialist. She made all four 3 points attempts scoring 12 points. The first two shots nothing but net, the other 2 showed her touch other two off the rim and in. Did I mention this is the coaches daughter, and she is a calm as a cucumber just like her father. Can't miss her long blond hair pony tail reaching to the back of her waist. When she comes in the game someone is going to have to stick on her like glue from the 3 point line.

    *#10 Andrews (5'9")I remember her vividly (like a horror show). Just in the 2nd half it seems like 3 times I saw her dribble in from the left side and put up 3 left hand layups, and she never misses from the left side it seems. Also saw her do a nice back door cut where the ball was passed to her for a layup. Today #10 had 10 assists to go along with 13 points. Oh yes she was player of the week last week also. She might be battling Jenn Wirth for the honor this week Saturday depending on how they both play this week and which team wins. #10 Andrews averaging 13.6 points per game, playmaker leads team in assists, 4.9 rebounds, 2nd best rebounder on team.

    *#12 Fowler (6'1") If you can believe it she actually improved her game from last year. Her newest weapon she can make 3 pointers. She was 2-4 on 3 pointers today, while scoring 16 points. But the play that wowed me today was a St. Mary's girl had the ball bounced away from her with no Portland player close, the St. Marys girl went to pick the ball back up before the mid court line. Then out of nowhere Fowler came diving in like making head first slide to 2nd base, swiped the ball from the girl as she was putting her fingers on it then flipped the ball up to Andrews who also appeared out of no where, who in turn out ran 2 St. Marys players down the court for a easy layup. #12 Fowler averaging 16.2 points, 7.2 rebound per game and is great getting out on the fast break.

    * #4 Frawley (6'0") Averaging 6.4 points per game. Choose to shoot a deep 3 from on top of the key today and nothing but net, announcer said she was coming back from some kind of injury. Wow that girl has deep 3 point range.

    * #15 Muhlheim (5'7") averages 9.2 points a game. Have to stick to her on the 3 point line she is 21-50 on 3 pointers this year.

    * 44 Walker (6'5") Had 10 points tonight on 5-9 FG.

    #5 Shearer (6'0") averaging 5.7 points a game.

    #2 Plug(5'11") averaging 4.3 points a game. Thought the announcer said she to is coming back from some injury and also played today.

    #23 Kaituu(6'0") averaging 4.1 points a game.

    Portland has Freshman twins the MCcliment sisters. Wow is the WBB WCC the twin capital or what (LOL).

    #21 McCliment (6'0") looks like the better of the two twins at this point (LOL).

    Portland has one glaring weakness thats rebounding.

    * Denotes Starters.
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    CLF and Lady Zags you have a week to prepare please bring your best.

    JT whole week to practice those 3 pointers and left hand layups. Best price by far for contacts is Costco on Dvision.

    Incentives to prepare for war, Portland kicked you to the curb the last game last year Lady Zags, they are the defending WCC Tournament Champions.

    LeeAnne avoid needless fouls we need you on the court to get those rebounds and we need your defense.

    JT beware of your surrounding and stop the worthless fouls, we need you on the court, and to get back to your old self.

    Lady Zags we are not getting no respect this year as far as player of the week or freshman of the week. Jenn you are on a roll player of the week is yours for the taking, just put in another double double Saturday, and get us the win and its yours for the taking this week girl.

    JT nothing but LUV for you, how about you showing the Lady Zags fans some LUV back by your performance on the court this Saturday. Leaders must step it up for big games.

    CLF get your players ready for Portlands Full Court Press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAGS ATTACK BASKET View Post
    Incentives to prepare for war, Portland kicked you to the curb the last game last year Lady Zags,....
    From GoZags Website:

    Portland's Haylee Andrews drove left through the paint and finished the left-handed layup with three seconds remaining to put Portland ahead 70-69. Loera's final half court attempt that fell short as time expired.

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    The McCliment-Call sisters played at Post Falls, where they won a state championship, before transferring to University. Tyler, (#21) led the Greater Spokane League in scoring last year with a 18.2 average. She, and her sister, Jacksen, also played for the Spokane Stars AAU team. One of their teammates there, M. J. Bruno, who led Central Valley to last year's state championship, will be joining them at Portland next season. The three are good friends. Oh, and their mom, Regan McCliment, was on CV's first ever state championship team back in 1993.

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    Still wondering out loud whats up with our sub order any input would be great. So O'Connor has been elevated to one of the first ones coming off the bench after Melody, and Kaylynn the last 3 games. Louise has disappeared to the last 2 minutes of the games along with Ejim. Looking at the roster on hand right now Kayleigh and Melody are definite starters next year. From looking at the guards, Kaylynne or Scanlon could be battling for the other starting guard spot. Ejim looks very talented to me and reminds me of Melody would be guessing she would be starting next year.

    So where I'm confused I get it O'Connor is coming back next year, right now it seems CLF has another favorite player to replace Katie. Katie turned out great but she was here for 3 years. Giving O'Connor double digit minutes the last 3 games and subbing her in early, I wonder if she sees O'Conner as a starter next year.

    Lisa seems to have a plan for the Wirths from day one. But sometimes it seems CLF seems obligated to rally around her Transfers more than her Freshman. If its a young transfer ok, if its a proven talent that show that to you in games great. But if you have a 3 year Transfer to you and she plays like a Freshman it raises question marks. Ejim seems like a very talented possible big for next year, yet unlike the Wirths when they were getting set up to take over as starters the following year, Ejim just seems to be getting ignored. Then I think back to Zykera Rice and I begin to wonder at different levels.

    Someone please explain it to me it seems O'Connor is coming off the bench initially to take over for JT.

    What I do see is a lot of talented Freshman on other teams making big impacts their first year. Again I wonder is CLF bad at recruiting Freshman that be quickly schooled up to contribute. Next year we have 3 highly touted Freshman coming in surely their be at least one if were lucky two that can contribute right away.

    So older Lady Zag fans big question for you I know the MBB Zags have lots of Walk-ons, which are great stories. But I have never heard of Lady Zag Walk-ons so I have just always assumed everyone is on scholarship. Please someone enlighten me if you know of Lady Zags walk-ons give me some names and when they played roughly.

    Yours for opinions, discussion, and information you have on Lady Zag Walk-ons?

    On a side note CG3Dad team so far as he predicted are exceeding expectations, and think he and another poster said they have more talent coming in yet to play this year.
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    A big key for victory over Portland is to kill them on the boards. We did not do this last year and thats one of the reason Portland could remain competitive with us. Lets look at the rebounding in all 3 games played last year.

    1st game we out rebounded them 36-29.

    2nd game we out rebounded them 36-32.

    3rd game it was tied 27-27 rebounds both teams.

    The other two huge keys is shutting down two players, will discuss their performance against us last year below:

    #10 Andrews had 3 good games against us last year we had no answer for her. First game she had 18 points, 6 rebounds. Second game 10 points, 10 rebounds. Third game 16 points. As I mentioned before she will dribble in from the left side making left handed layups. I'm thinking Walker and both Troungs should have this defensive assignment. Of course we can only have one guarding her at a time.

    #12 Fowler was a Freshman last year, but she got better rebounding against us the last 2 games. 2nd game 8 rebounds, 3rd game 10 rebounds. The last game us against us for all the marbles we had no answer for her, she out hustled us, and we could not stop her she end up having 22 points. Fowler double team her underneath when she gets the ball, and please someone be assigned at all time to cover her sprinting out fro fast breaks.

    Don't let these two out hustle you. Warning if you let this team stay close, the outcome may not what you had hoped for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAGS ATTACK BASKET View Post
    A big key for victory over Portland is to kill them on the boards. We did not do this last year and thats one of the reason Portland could remain competitive with us. Lets look at the rebounding in all 3 games played last year.

    1st game we out rebounded them 36-29.

    2nd game we out rebounded them 36-32.

    3rd game it was tied 27-27 rebounds both teams.

    The other two huge keys is shutting down two players, will discuss their performance against us last year below:

    #10 Andrews had 3 good games against us last year we had no answer for her. First game she had 18 points, 6 rebounds. Second game 10 points, 10 rebounds. Third game 16 points. As I mentioned before she will dribble in from the left side making left handed layups. I'm thinking Walker and both Troungs should have this defensive assignment. Of course we can only have one guarding her at a time.

    #12 Fowler was a Freshman last year, but she got better rebounding against us the last 2 games. 2nd game 8 rebounds, 3rd game 10 rebounds. The last game us against us for all the marbles we had no answer for her, she out hustled us, and we could not stop her she end up having 22 points. Fowler double team her underneath when she gets the ball, and please someone be assigned at all time to cover her sprinting out fro fast breaks.

    Don't let these two out hustle you. Warning if you let this team stay close, the outcome may not what you had hoped for.
    In all honesty ZAB, this is the best analysis you have done. Fowler and Andrews certainly had our number last year in all three games.

    If you look at the last game (WCC Tournament) stats a little deeper, you will find some very startling points. Despite being severely outsized Portland was able to keep even with the Zags on the boards, outscored the Zags in the Paint 42-32 and in fast break points 11-3. The Pilots almost equaled the Zags on points off turnovers 19 - 22, despite having 5 more turnovers than the Zags.

    Despite the above numbers, I place the loss in the WCC Semi-Final Game directly on CLF. Why, we have discussed this a couple of years ago when we lost all 3 games to BYU. CLF insisted on playing her 2 guard, wing, 2 forward line-up against BYUs 4 guards and a post. As athletic as they are, the Wirths simply could not stay with the BYU guards. The Wirths height advantage was essentially nullified when they were pulled out of the key. Your line-up has to be better than the opposition on at least one end of the court and your advantage needs to be bigger on your side of the court than the opponent's advantage on the other side of the court. If your advantage is not greater than your opponents advantage you need to make some changes. CLF is very stubborn and is slow to make changes to her tried and true line-up.

    Why do I blame CLF for the WCC Tournament loss is easy. I called the play and the shooter during the Portland timeout. It was not hard. You could guess that the shooter would be Andrews, Andersen or Fowler as they scored 80% of Portland's 70 points. While Andrews, Andersen and Fowler shot 53.7% overall, these three players were a combined 1-5 from 3 point range on game day. There was only 8 seconds left in the game, so Portland had a maximum of 8 dribbles before the clock ran out. They did not have time to mess around. You want to maximize your chance to win the game, play a zone, pack the key, push the shooters out to the 3 point line. If somebody drives toward the hoop, sag everybody into the key. Do not give up a lay-up or short jumper. If they make a long 2 or a 3-point shot, good for them but make them earn it. As we all know, the Zags played man-to-man, and Haylee Andrews drove left through the paint and finished the left-handed layup with three seconds remaining. We had not stopped Portland's big 3 all day in man-to-man. Why CLF thought it would work on the last play is beside me. Anyway, water under the bridge.

    I can't say that the Lady Zags are "better" this year than last year. Deeper team for sure, better quality back-ups, yep but a better starting 5, I don't think so, at least at this time of year. However, I do think Portland is a better team this year than last year and certainly deeper as well. So where is Portland vulnerable?

    Both teams average score is within a 1/2 point of each other. Overall shooting percentage and number of made 3s per game is also almost exactly the same between the teams. Portland shoots only slightly better from 3 than the lady zags. Where Portland stands out on the offensive side of the ball is forcing turnovers (20.9 per game), steals (12.4 per game) and points off turnovers (12.4 per game). Defensively, the Zags have it all over the Pilots. Portland gives up over 68 ppg while the Zags limit the opponents to only 57 ppg. Gonzaga is averaging 13.6 more rebounds per game then their opponents while Portland is averaging 1.7 fewer rebounds per game than their opponents. Portland is allowing their opponents to shoot 45.7% overall and 34.3% from 3 while Gonzaga is limiting their opponents to 37.6% shooting overall and 28.3% from 3.

    So what do the Lady Zags have to do to win Saturday's game?
    - Guards have to value the ball and handle the Portland press. If the Zags break the press, lay-ups are readily available. Cannot have lots of turnovers on Saturday, Portland will make them pay.
    - The Gonzaga frontcourt has to dominate inside, both offensively and defensively. Win the rebounding battle, and the second chance point battle.
    - Obviously for the Zag frontcourt to dominate they have to stay on the court. Can't have JW, LW & JT picking up silly fouls and sitting on the bench.
    - Zags have to get back on defense, limit the number of fast break points. Make Portland work for their baskets. Have to get out on the 3s, no open shots. Make every shot contested.
    - CLF has to be willing to change tactics if her game plan is not working. If you need to play 4 guards to have the foot speed to stay with the Portland guards, do it.

    Both teams have similar offensive outputs, the Gonzaga defense is significantly better than the Portland defense. Much like Pacific, if the Zags can keep Portland under 60 points, the odds of winning the game on Saturday are pretty good. Give up 70+ points, the odds will favor the Pilots.

    Go Zags,

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    Zagineer the roster keeper can you answer the question about walk ons with the Lady Zags?

    Guessing Laura Sullivan was one right?

    Skip says Gillian Barfield is a walk on, ZD thinks not, waiting for Zagineer or others insiders knowledge from 6,000 strong in the Kennel.
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    On grading out the strength of opponents teams in the WCC, Thursdays games will be very fruitful.

    Santa Clara, SF, BYU all play against opponents we have already played this year. Most interesting game to me will be BYU against LMU.

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    ZAB... I think the only walk-on on the team at this time is GB... and she may have earned at least a partial scholarship. That is why you don’t see her until usually the end. She is a hard worker and well liked by her teammates.
    I’m not sure on the number of scholarships available but think we have used them all up for this year and should have available at least five for next year with four recruits coming in.

    Go Zags!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkipZag View Post
    ZAB... I think the only walk-on on the team at this time is GB... and she may have earned at least a partial scholarship. That is why you don’t see her until usually the end. She is a hard worker and well liked by her teammates.
    I’m not sure on the number of scholarships available but think we have used them all up for this year and should have available at least five for next year with four recruits coming in.

    Go Zags!!
    It is my understanding that GB is not a walk-on, she is on full scholarship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAGS ATTACK BASKET View Post
    Zagineer the roster keeper can you answer the question about walk ons with the Lady Zags?

    Guessing Laura Sullivan was one right?

    Skip says Gillian Barfield is a walk on, ZD thinks not, waiting for Zagineer or others insiders knowledge from 6,000 strong in the Kennel.
    When you want an answer to your question about walk-ons, let me know. Until then I will wait for Zagineer (who is from Issaquah) or any of the other 6,000 strong in the Kennel answer your question.

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    Hope you are right... but I still believe she walked on... or was invited. For years, like MBB, you invite players who wish to be part of the team to join in hopes of earning a scholarship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkipZag View Post
    Hope you are right... but I still believe she walked on... or was invited. For years, like MBB, you invite players who wish to be part of the team to join in hopes of earning a scholarship.
    I thought she was a walk-on as well, but my contact inside the program was adamant that she has been a full scholarship athlete the entire time.

    There are a couple of reasons why most good Wbb teams don't need or use female walk-ons. When ZAB or somebody else asks, I will provide the answer.

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    Although have no facts, I would also have guessed that Gillian Barfield was a walk on. Which brings us to another topic next year recruits.

    Payton MUMA (5'8") #2 rated player in Colorado. Skinny has a twig in her picture. Love the last name.

    Esther Little (6'2") Listed as Guard Forward brings international experience and stats to back her up. Looking at her picture, she looks athlete strong, the might be our best impact player as a Freshman. Might be our next best rebounder averaged 19 rebounds a game last year. Come over the Pond Esther and show us some Brit. rebounding power in the Kennel.

    Bree Salenbien (6'3") Listed as a guard with bothers me. Coming off a injury after being Michigan player of the year for like 3 years. Looks a little skinny in picture. Yes comes highly rated. I grew up 151 miles from Adrian, MI. where Bree went to High School.

    Calli Stokes (6'0") This is a head scratcher. Also comes with a injury history and has not played in 2 years. She is rated like the 76th player at her position in California, and 661st nationally (Yikes)? She looks like she has a sturdy build, don't know about athletic. She had no impressive stats even as a High Schooler. Is Calli Stokes getting a scholarship?

    So when we comeback to the Kennel next year I already have two new possible favorite Freshman I may be screaming for. Thats right I have to root like a madman for my hometown girl next door Bree Sablebien to succeed. And Esther Little just has the look of confidence and ready to battle. Expect one or both of these ladies to make immediate impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAGS ATTACK BASKET View Post
    Bree Salenbien (6'3") Listed as a guard with bothers me. Already has injury history has not played for two years. Also a skinny kid. Yes comes highly rated.

    Calli Stokes (6'0") This is a head scratcher. Also comes with a injury history and has not played in 2 years. She is rated like the 76th player at her position in California, and 661st nationally (Yikes)? She looks like she has a sturdy build, don't know about athletic. She had no impressive stats even as a High Schooler. Is Calli Stokes getting a scholarship.
    Hard for Bree to not have played for two years when she is a 3-time player of the year in Michigan. She torn her MCL in the playoffs last year. If she plays this year, it will most likely be in the playoffs if at all. She has said she won't risk her college career by coming back too early.

    Of Course Calli Stokes will be getting a scholarship. You don't sign letters of intent for walk-ons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAGS ATTACK BASKET View Post
    Zagineer the roster keeper can you answer the question about walk ons with the Lady Zags?
    ZAB, I have no information on this subject at all. Actually, I try to avoid the topic completely. My position is that scholarships are a private financial matter between the player and the school. That's why I refer to the table in the Sticky thread, "Looking at this year's Roster", as a Roster, rather than a Scholarship List.

    The NCAA has established limits as to how many scholarships a given sport can have. Women's Basketball is classified as a "Head Count" Sport and is limited to a maximum of 15 scholarships and 15 students. [Other Head Count Sports are Men's Basketball (13) and Football (85); and Women's Gymnastics (12); Tennis (8); and Volleyball (12).] All other sports are classified as "Equivalency Sports", where a scholarship can be divided up between multiple students.

    Below is a link to the total list of scholarship limits for men's and women's sports. It also provides more detail on the definition of "Head Count" Sports versus "Equivalency" Sports.

    https://scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimits

    That being said, and with the Lady Zags showing a Roster of 16 players, someone is not on an athletic scholarship, but I won't speculate as to who that player is. Actually, it could change from year-to-year. Or CLF could be holding back one or two scholarships for unforeseen opportunities to bring in another player, so there could be two or three players not on an athletic scholarship. Maybe a couple players are on academic scholarships (Does the NCAA allow this? I don't know.) As I said, this all gets into private financial matters.

    GO LADY ZAGS!
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    CG3 Dad huge game tomorrow for you at BYU. How do you like your chances against BYU?
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    Zagineer thanks for responding. Your right better to take the higher road wise man.

    Yes you could be right could be right academics also. Was not personally downgrading anyone, I have the greatest respect for walk-ons. The point was the MBB Zags often have articles on walk-ons as they have this year. Just off the top of my head I thought I read the MBB Zags have like 5 walk-ons on their team this year. I always love walk-on stories in college football.

    See article about the the Walk-on players on the MBB Zags roster this year below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkipZag View Post
    I’m not sure on the number of scholarships available but think we have used them all up for this year and should have available at least five for next year with four recruits coming in.

    Go Zags!!
    The NCAA grants D-1 Wbb teams 15 scholarships and Mbb teams 13 Scholarships.

    The Lady Zags have six (6) seniors not counting AOC; JW, LW, JT, CW, LF and GB and we have signed four players to LOIs.

    BUT......and here is the wrench in the works. The NCAA has granted every senior in every winter sport another year of eligibility if the player wants it and the school agrees to provide it. In theory, we could have our entire team back next year plus the four new players.

    The only "senior" that we know for sure is coming back is AOC who is taking advantage of that extra year of eligibility by playing this year and coming back next year. While I expect that it is much more likely than not that JW, LW, JT, CW, LF and GB will leave at the end of this year, I have not heard from either the coaches or players, what their status is for next year. Most likely the team will wait until the end of the year before announcing any decisions regarding the extra year of eligibility.

    Not being able to play in front of the Kennel fans, not winning the WCC Championship and/or tournament, not doing as well as expected in the NCAA tournament, having the chance of hosting the 1st two rounds games next year in the Kennel, having the chance to play a sweet-16 game in Spokane (Spokane is a host next year) or simply getting another year of paid education are all understandable reasons for wanting to play next year.

    It will be an interesting Spring, that is for sure.

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    You have to bring it': Gonzaga’s five walk-ons push starters, rotation players to improve
    By Jim Meehan The Spokesman-Review Nov 7, 2020

    Evan Inglesby had options, including scholarship offers at strong Division II schools, but only one program offered a deep connection to his ancestry.

    The Gonzaga basketball walk-on’s grandfather, Bill Suter, was inducted into GU’s Athletic Hall of Fame in 1989. The 5-foot-9 Suter was a three-time All-Big Sky third baseman, and his 1,354 career points in basketball ranks No. 22 in school history.

    “Whenever I walk by his spot in the Hall of Fame I look at his picture. It’s pretty sweet,” said Inglesby, whose cousin, Colin Suter, is a pitcher on Gonzaga’s baseball team. “He’s in paradise with me on the basketball team. I’m convinced he’ll buy an apartment up here and live here and come to the games.”

    Junior guard Matthew Lang could have gone the D-II route, had his school paid for and seen plenty of playing time. He chose to walk on at Gonzaga, and he’s become a fan favorite – it might have something to do with hitting 3-pointers that provide coupons for free tacos – and unofficial captain of the team’s five walk-ons.

    “The experience,” Lang said of his collegiate decision. “Not many people can say they are on the No. 1 team in the country that has a chance to win March Madness every year. For my future, I know basketball isn’t going to be my life after college so get the most out of it as I can right now.”

    Walk-ons have had long-standing, meaningful roles in the program, often with little fanfare. They might be a defender for 15 solid minutes of drills or simply watch play after play from the sidelines. They put in the same amount of time as scholarship counterparts, but playing time is typically scarce or nonexistent.

    With Lang, Inglesby, second-year walk-on Will Graves and newcomers Colby Lee and Abe Eagle, the Zags have a reliable point guard, promising shooting guard, hot-shooting wing, athletic ‘4’ man and capable big. Five walk-ons on one team is rare – Lang recalls four in his freshman season – and the talent and size of this group is even more rare.

    Mike Hart is Zag walk-on royalty after becoming a key starter on the 2013 team that reached No. 1 for the first time in program history.

    Inglesby was a standout at Barlow High in Gresham, Oregon. He averaged 20.9 points as a senior and exited as the third leading scorer in school history. His father coached his teams since fourth grade and assisted at Barlow.

    Graves, son of former Gonzaga women’s coach Kelly Graves, was a part-time starter at Lane Community College before joining the Zags last season. The 6-5 junior hit 4 of 7 3-pointers in 26 minutes.

    Eagle, averaged 12.3 points and eight rebounds last year at Chaminade High.

    Inglesby hopes that when the walk-ons improve it helps the starters and rotation players do the same.

    “We’ve have had our moments,” he said. “We’ll surprise them a bit and it’ll be like 15-14 (in a scrimmage). We’re all good players. It’s pretty cool being in a program with 17 guys that can hoop.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAGS ATTACK BASKET View Post
    Just off the top of my head I thought I read the WBB Zags had like 4 walk-ons on their team this year. I always love walk-on stories in college football.
    Where do you get this information?

    Mbb have 13 scholarships and and typically have 3-5 walk-ons for 16 or so players on the team. Wbb teams have 15 scholarships so they don't "need" the walk-ons for additional practice players.

    Secondly, how does a top tier Wbb team get better practicing against second-tier quality players? They don't. How do they get better, they use male practice players, which is what the vast majority of Wbb teams (including the Zags) do.

    The Spokesman-Review published an article last January on this exact issue which was reposted on this board. Here is a portion of the article for you:

    “If you want to play women’s basketball, you have to play against the guys,” Townsend said. “They’re stronger, quicker and they can jump higher – that’s no lie.

    “If you can beat these guys, who can’t you do it against?” Townsend said.

    For that reason and others, college women’s teams have been using male practice players for decades. Since legendary Tennessee head coach Pat Summitt began the practice in the 1970s, it’s spread to nearly every Division I program in the nation.

    The men bring physicality. Their presence also lessens wear and tear on the women, especially if they’re already shorthanded because of injury, and gives coaches more flexibility with their practice lineup.
    Here is the link to the entire article: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/20...sung-heroes-f/

    Your welcome ZAB.

    ZagDad

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    ZAB,

    So older Lady Zag fans big question for you I know the MBB Zags have lots of Walk-ons, which are great stories. But I have never heard of Lady Zag Walk-ons so I have just always assumed everyone is on scholarship. Please someone enlighten me if you know of Lady Zags walk-ons give me some names and when they played roughly.
    If you really want to know about Lady Zag walk-ons, you can do the research.

    You know that Gonzaga has long had a policy of not retracting scholarships (great) from their players even though the scholarships are awarded on a year by year basis. So you can be relatively assured that if somebody was awarded a scholarship as a freshman, that person had the scholarship their entire time at Gonzaga.

    If you google the player's name, with sufficient time surfing through articles, you can find out if that player signed (not a verbal commit) a formal "Letter of Intent" (LOI) with Gonzaga. If a player signed a LOI with Gonzaga and attended Gonzaga you can be essentially assured that person had a scholarship. If a person did not sign an LOI and was not a transfer, then that person may have been a walk-on.

    As far as split-scholarships, or partial scholarships are concerned, good luck with determining that one. I do not know if Zag BB even uses split or partial scholarships.

    ZagDad

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    I know that some of the sports only offer partial athletic scholarships but can, if the athlete qualifies, offer an academic scholarship to complete the coverage.
    It seemed to me a few years back that one of the players on the MBB gave up their athletic scholarship to allow it to go for another player.

    Go Zags!!

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    Default PORTLAND PILOTS FLYING HIGH AT 3-0 WCC. WILL THE ZAGS SHOOT THEM DOWN?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZAGS ATTACK BASKET View Post
    CG3 Dad huge game tomorrow for you at BYU. How do you like your chances against BYU?
    Haven’t really been keeping up on BYU much, but of course Shaylee Gonzales is a phenomenal player. I would assume that our strategy will be to make the Cougars beat us without her. Most likely we’ll put Chelsey on Gonzales as our defensive specialist, and that should slow her down somewhat.

    Hamson for all her height has seemed to not be utilized effectively as in years past. Our center Meagan Mandel has been coming along nicely having been featured in Top Play Tuesday yesterday with two blocks in a row:

    https://youtu.be/XKLvmAMhdbg

    Also other shooters / scorers on our team have stepped up for us nicely so there’s not as much pressure on Chels to produce offense.

    Finally, the BYU coach does not have experience against this LMU team, and basketball sometimes comes down to matchups, he’s gonna have a difficult time adjusting to us. For the moment - we’re a matchup problem for many teams in the WCC.

    Massey has BYU by 10 points. I think it’s going to be a one or two possession ball game...one way or another.


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