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    I have a "strong suspicion" that Gonzaga clearly sees the writing on the wall right now and is exploring their options to leave the West Coast Conference.

    The Power 5 schools are clearly testing the waters right now by playing in-conference football only which means its only a matter of time before they fully pull out of the NCAA. If the P5 exits the NCAA it means Gonzaga will need a place to land because the success of the university and athletic department are tied to Gonzaga basketball's success.

    The PAC-12 is an absolute free fall right now and it needs some serious positive momentum. The PAC-12 announced huge budget cuts, layoffs, and another round of salary reductions because not only has its football revenue fallen off but so too has its basketball revenue. Adding Gonzaga in basketball only would help both the PAC-12 from a revenue standpoint and it helps Gonzaga if the Power 5 schools break off in 2022. There is a very real possibility that some West Coast Conference teams may not have the monetary budgets to continue funding their athletic departments too which would further push Gonzaga to the PAC-12 and the PAC-12 to Gonzaga.

    Just adding to the discussion as I know this has been bandied about before but I know when I see a tsunami coming and I guarantee you the leaders of the University also see it which is why I strongly suspect that Gonzaga maybe looking at an exit strategy right now. The WCC association maybe coming to an end due to factors beyond Gonzaga's control.

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    COVID 19 has caused multiple things to change. No sure this is soly due to COVID19 though. THe disruption has caused many schools to rethink things. I do no know where GU would land but as many on this Board have urged GU to find greener pastures, it might be the time to do that. We do have good basketball obviously and baseball is coming along too. Finances usually dictate much. If we leave WCC, I do think the 30 win seasons will be lessened but the quality of everything might improve.
    Until the system settles a bit, big choices might be a bit risky. Not a bad time to look at a new affiliation though.

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    Where would they go? Just leaving is not an answer. The Mountain West, WAC or Big Sky aren't the answer.

    Where would they go?
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    Maybe they could take Notre Dame's spot in the Independent League!!
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    We need to wait and see what the new NCAA Pod League looks like.
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    Even SMC is in trouble. Financially, both the school and the athletic department are going concerns if this thing lingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    Where would they go? Just leaving is not an answer. The Mountain West, WAC or Big Sky aren't the answer.

    Where would they go?
    I thought I was clear but guess I wasn't, the PAC-12 which is in desperate need to bolster basketball revenue & stature. San Diego State and Gonzaga would be terrific additions all the way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballzag View Post
    I thought I was clear but guess I wasn't, the PAC-12 which is in desperate need to bolster basketball revenue & stature. San Diego State and Gonzaga would be terrific additions all the way around.
    Gonzaga as the only basketball only team would certainly be exposed to risk of football related decisions. It really needs to look at that. There was a reason the Big East kicked out their football schools. They found that the objectives of basketball only schools were secondary to football programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitzbuel View Post
    Gonzaga as the only basketball only team would certainly be exposed to risk of football related decisions. It really needs to look at that. There was a reason the Big East kicked out their football schools. They found that the objectives of basketball only schools were secondary to football programs.
    On the other hand if you don't make that gamble you are stuck in a Div. 2 basketball conference because the P5 are going to start their own tournament where only P5 schools are allowed to participate.

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    I donít see the P5 going conference only in football this season as any more than trying to save as much revenue as possible from CFB this year. I donít think this is them preparing to break away.


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    Really affects only revenue or profitable sports; at GU, question where they can “park” sports other than men’s and women’s basketball. Minimizing travel expenses would be a key to continuing to compete in money-losing sports. Bleak picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelinZag View Post
    Really affects only revenue or profitable sports; at GU, question where they can “park” sports other than men’s and women’s basketball. Minimizing travel expenses would be a key to continuing to compete in money-losing sports. Bleak picture.
    Covid will be devastating for women's sports. Schools that drop football won't need to fund women's sports as required by Title IX.

    Back to the topic: I think it's a nonstarter, as the Zags carved out a pretty good deal for themselves two years ago. There's no reason to leave the WCC, and Pac-12 schools are research institutions.

    There have been numerous threads over the past several years about the Zags moving to another conference. Not in the cards, if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
    Covid will be devastating for women's sports. Schools that drop football won't need to fund women's sports as required by Title IX.

    Back to the topic: I think it's a nonstarter, as the Zags carved out a pretty good deal for themselves two years ago. There's no reason to leave the WCC, and Pac-12 schools are research institutions.

    There have been numerous threads over the past several years about the Zags moving to another conference. Not in the cards, if you ask me.
    There is no reason to leave if we assume the same structure moves forward. The premise, however, was that the landscape might change in substantial ways, effectively putting GU in a position where it can no longer compete in the ways it has previously.

    Whether that premise plays out, none of us knows, but it’s interesting to ponder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    There is no reason to leave if we assume the same structure moves forward. The premise, however, was that the landscape might change in substantial ways, effectively putting GU in a position where it can no longer compete in the ways it has previously.

    Whether that premise plays out, none of us knows, but it’s interesting to ponder.
    Is this like that bridge in Alaska, built but going nowhere? There needs to be a need before there is a change. As of yet, we don't have any idea of the need, so making plans to go nowhere is for a nowhere man.
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    One thing to remember in all of this is that GU has remained committed to all its sports programs in its decisions.

    If the Menís BBall moves GU will have to find a home for all its sports programs. I donít see the WCC changing its mind on its stance that GU keep Menís BBall in the WCC or none of its teams.


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    Gonzaga was on the cusp of a national championship, potentially multiple NCs given the explosive improvement in recruiting. This sure is unfortunate. COVID killed one shot, it might kill the 20-21 season (it’s already impacted it with Petro leaving, and who knows after that.

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    Nice article. Thanks for sharing.

    I agree with the poster that pointed out that Roth needs to be keeping open eyes and ears to every possibility.

    I also think that planning for the future when we don't know what the future will be is an exercise in futility.

    I also believe that I, personally, have far too many realities to worry about, just the day to day survival in a decaying economy, a wife that is immune suppressed and my own health conditions to want to even be distracted by considering anything when there is not any information to support a solution. Will the P 5 schools leave the NCAA? They definitely will...or they won't. When they act, Gonzaga will have to respond. Can they respond before? What if they do and the response is wrong?

    Enough of my rambles. I follow in the hopes that someone has something that is of value and I try to refrain from responding.
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    The P5 breaking away from the NCAA is an interesting idea. With the major headwinds facing higher ed due to demographics and the pandemic, there are going to be changes coming. There seem to be a few scenarios about how this could play out for college basketball.

    1. The P5 seek to bring the football model to basketball. Similar to football, the P5 would play the regular season and then get seeded into a national championship bracket. To bring the total number of participants to 64 or 68, the P5 convene a committee to invite 20ish teams from outside the P5, e.g. Big East teams, Memphis, etc. This is fairly similar to how the selection committee works now, but since all power schools are already in, the committee doesn't have to pretend that all schools are equal. Gonzaga would be invited for the tournament most years, barring some massive downturn.

    2. The Pac-12 decides to expand to shore up non-football sports and invites 4 schools, including Gonzaga and probably San Diego State or similar. This could be done with or without the rest of the P5 expanding to 16 also. In return, Gonzaga would promise to continue increasing their academic profile. Gonzaga's recruiting could improve with the conference affiliation argument removed.

    3.The P5 conferences spend their time arguing and get nothing decided and everything stays pretty much the same. This is probably the most likely outcome.

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