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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    Thanks Bogo, much appreciated. The amount of debt they have poured on undereducated, underprepared grads is an abomination. The fact that many mainstream, legitimate schools have done the same in no way gets GCU off the hook. They have a role, but they’re not a college. Allowing them into the WCC would be a terrible mistake.

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    The U.S. Department of Education last week told Grand Canyon University that it had determined that the university remains a for-profit institution. The decision surprised many in higher education and could be relevant to other for-profits that are seeking to change their tax status, as well as to colleges that outsource the administration of online programs to outside companies.

    Grand Canyon last year announced that it had received approval from a state regulatory agency in Arizona and its regional accreditor to convert to a nonprofit university. The university's publicly traded owner, Grand Canyon Education, sold the campus and academic operations for $870 million to the new, nonprofit Grand Canyon University. Under a 15-year contract, Grand Canyon Education provides a wide range of outsourced support services to the university in exchange for 60 percent of its tuition and revenue.

    The Christian university enrolls roughly 105,000 students, more than 20,000 at its campus in Phoenix.
    The department on Tuesday released its 18-page letter to Grand Canyon on the decision. It also released a written statement, noting that the call was based on the structure of the relationship between the university and Grand Canyon Education.
    So if they go with a 30 year note and 40% of the money, it should be fine.

    We could actually do with more schools being profitable rather than suckling on the taxpayer's teat.
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    Ahh, but that’s the point. Indirectly through federal aid to its students GCU does as much suckling as any more reputable school. Larding both students as well as taxpayers like yourself with millions in debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    Ahh, but that’s the point. Indirectly through federal aid to its students GCU does as much suckling as any more reputable school. Larding both students as well as taxpayers like yourself with millions in debt.
    Yes. That's the point. They do as much suckling as any more reputable school.

    I agree about the larding of taxpayers with much of the larding being the absurd rise in University funding via taxpayers, at the expense of actual educational programs. Cut the university funding in half and put that money into VoTech schools. Graduates would be contributing members of society from day one, not saddled with ever increasing debt from student loans. Fund the universities with tuition or have in state tuition be free, and fund via tax payer. Doing both funding via taxpayer AND tuition sure isn't working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    Yes. That's the point. They do as much suckling as any more reputable school.

    I agree about the larding of taxpayers with much of the larding being the absurd rise in University funding via taxpayers, at the expense of actual educational programs. Cut the university funding in half and put that money into VoTech schools. Graduates would be contributing members of society from day one, not saddled with ever increasing debt from student loans. Fund the universities with tuition or have in state tuition be free, and fund via tax payer. Doing both funding via taxpayer AND tuition sure isn't working.
    Half into VoTech? It's the 21st century Will. Not everyone is meant to be a diesel mechanic or plumber, god love em, and they do well......I sent u a PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdmiller7 View Post
    I wouldnt be either. He has finished last in the conference in 3 of 4 years, and 9th the other year. He has 1 conference win in the last 2 years. There has been no improvement over his tenure.
    Would Matt Santangelo have any interest in coaching at that program? I probably wouldn’t hire him as the head coach as his first coaching job, but he might be a strong assistant coach with strong Portland ties for recruiting.
    Gonzaga has defeated Baylor, Illinois, Virginia, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, UCLA, Arizona, Creighton, Oklahoma, Florida State, Texas A&M, Oregon, Iowa, West Virginia, Auburn, USC, and Washington over just the past three seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Centre Mad Man View Post
    Would Matt Santangelo have any interest in coaching at that program? I probably wouldn’t hire him as the head coach as his first coaching job, but he might be a strong assistant coach with strong Portland ties for recruiting.
    He has good management skills, not sure he has done much coaching over the years. He would have to put some time in building his player development and scouting/recruiting skills. I would have to think he could have put in time doing that at GU where he could stay in Spokane if that is what he wanted to do.
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    But we don't play nobody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    Schadenfreude alert!!!! Only Chris “Monkey on his back” Mack would bring more joy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    You'd think they might have investigated when 7 players transfered after last season, plus I think they had several leave the year before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdmiller7 View Post
    You'd think they might have investigated when 7 players transfered after last season, plus I think they had several leave the year before.
    It’s Wichita. Landry Shamet couldn’t bail fast enough.

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    Thanks for the link, bum.
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    Didn't want to start a new thread when there's a perfectly good one here.

    Maryland's Mark Turgeon is stepping down "by mutual agreement"

    Mark Turgeon and the University of Maryland mutually agreed to part ways, the school announced Friday, eight games into Turgeon’s 11th season leading the men’s basketball program. Athletic Director Damon Evans named assistant coach Danny Manning the interim head coach for the remainder of the season.

    Since taking over the program before the 2011-2012 season, Turgeon compiled a 226-116 record — including five NCAA tournament appearances, which all came in the past seven seasons — and was named the Big Ten coach of the year in 2015. Maryland won the Big Ten regular season title in 2020 and was in position for a high seed in the NCAA tournament that year as well before the postseason was canceled because of the coronavirus pandemic.
    Manning was 116 -140 at Wake Forest.

    Turgeon's collegiate HC career began in 1998-99 at Jacksonville State. Prior to landing the MD gig for the 2011-12 season, he coached at Wichita State and Texas A&M. He took the Aggies to four straight NCAA tournaments before becoming the MD HC for the 2011-12 season. MD was the Big Ten regular season champion in the pandemic altered 2019-2020 season. He leaves MD with a 226-116 (.661) W/L record. His overall coaching record is 476-275.

    (Stats from Sports Reference.com)

    Maryland is honoring the terms of Mark Turgeon’s contract, including the $5 million buyout, per team spokesman. So it sounds like he and the school mutually agreed he be fired and take his golden parachute. I guess we can expect to see him on the Bracketology shows come March 2022. And somewhere, Steve Alford is thinking "Hey, at least I made it to New Year's Eve."
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    Classy guy, solid coach. MD doesn’t belong in the BX.

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    The ultimate wild card? Sean Miller, the former Arizona coach who sources say was Maryland's first choice when it hired Turgeon long ago. It might be hard for any school to hire Miller before the NCAA completes its investigation into what occurred at Arizona under Miller's watch. Would Maryland officials take their chances for a surefire winner?
    guessing NO on this

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    There have been some remarkable resurrections in coaching...in fact it is rather common.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartruff1 View Post
    There have been some remarkable resurrections in coaching...in fact it is rather common.....
    Witness New Rochelle, not to mention the reptile that coaches Houston

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    Classy guy, solid coach. MD doesn’t belong in the BX.
    Adding Maryland and Rutgers to the Big10 was a craven move to get the conference into the Washington DC and New York City media markets. Nothing more, nothing less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo Roncalli View Post
    Adding Maryland and Rutgers to the Big10 was a craven move to get the conference into the Washington DC and New York City media markets. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Papa, not sure which is less qualified for BX comp, and both are more than a few volumes short of being major research universities. My vote is Rotgut, which has had an inflated view of itself since the last century. And MD was a member in good standing of the ACC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartruff1 View Post
    There have been some remarkable resurrections in coaching...in fact it is rather common.....
    Would love to see Rick Pitino get the job. I know he said Iona was his last job, but it very much feels like a stepping stone back into D1 royalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zagdontzig View Post
    Would love to see Rick Pitino get the job. I know he said Iona was his last job, but it very much feels like a stepping stone back into D1 royalty.
    As soon as he calms down after last night’s action, Randy might return a call from MD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    As soon as he calms down after last night’s action, Randy might return a call from MD.
    Really....why would he leave that paradise ? ....... I don't blame him for being mad, especially at the game clock...good on the refs for ending the game....

    I am really looking forward to the WCC Season...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagdontzig View Post
    Would love to see Rick Pitino get the job. I know he said Iona was his last job, but it very much feels like a stepping stone back into D1 royalty.
    I agree. Would love Pitino to take the job if offered. Still has a lot of great coaching within. Would respect him if he said, thanks, not interested. Prefer to stay at Iona. Besides, zero pressure at Iona. He is probably having fun. I like Pitino.

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    I am just really surprised that Iona hired the sleaze...never liked him and when at UL he did win but at what cost to the university!

    I would hope MD would have more class than picking him for their next HC...IMO he and Sampson should have been banned from D1/D2 (where scholarships are offered) schools for life...IMO

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