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@BYU : Post game thoughts
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Originally posted by willandi View PostWatched a different game huh?
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There was certainly some home town officiating on this one. However a good team needs to persevere and fight through it. We almost did. If we hit those threes we win. Just didn’t work that way. Hopefully this toughens up going into both the WCC and NCAA tourneys. I am counting on them to bounce back strong.
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The items that stuck out for me-
40% vs 20% from 3 (it's the difference in the score)
82% from the line for the Zags
Haws had 0 personal fouls, zero
I know fans are upset about the outcome but I think we just saw the change in attitude tonight we need to go deep. We shot well from the line in a high-pressure situation. In the second half, Timme and Gilder were fired up and scraping. Ayayi was arguing to stay in the game. Tillie set a legal and devastating pick. Petrusev saw what happened when he layed it up and when he tried to dunk. If Petrusev can learn from this and take the opportunity to mature, he's going to be stronger from here on out. I just hope he's not hurt or regresses mentally.
I think BYU just poked the bear from the rest of the WCC.The quality of our thoughts and ideas can only be as good as the quality of our language.
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I just think the Marriott Ctr is creepy along with all the BYU players and their fans/student section. It's just an icky feeling I get every time they play there. The Kaufusi brothers back in the day, the fans throwing things; it's not your normal "all in good fun" college environment. Not to be dramatic but it almost feels evil there? I've gone to games at every conference opponent but have never wanted to go to a game in Provo.
Anyway, glad it's over. Some dads made their kids proud. Can't wait for Vegas. Go Zags.
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few needs to come up with a few (pun intended ) new offensive wrinkles. teams are doubling/pressuring us down low, either making it hard to enter the ball down low or harrassing them once we get it down there. how do we counter? havent seen an adjustment yet.
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Originally posted by TimberZag View PostI just think the Marriott Ctr is creepy along with all the BYU players and their fans/student section. It's just an icky feeling I get every time they play there. The Kaufusi brothers back in the day, the fans throwing things; it's not your normal "all in good fun" college environment. Not to be dramatic but it almost feels evil there? I've gone to games at every conference opponent but have never wanted to go to a game in Provo.
Anyway, glad it's over. Some dads made their kids proud. Can't wait for Vegas. Go Zags.
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Originally posted by TimberZag View PostI just think the Marriott Ctr is creepy along with all the BYU players and their fans/student section. It's just an icky feeling I get every time they play there. The Kaufusi brothers back in the day, the fans throwing things; it's not your normal "all in good fun" college environment. Not to be dramatic but it almost feels evil there? I've gone to games at every conference opponent but have never wanted to go to a game in Provo.
Anyway, glad it's over. Some dads made their kids proud. Can't wait for Vegas. Go Zags."Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand."
—Kurt Vonnegut
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Haws is scrawny. It was a missed foul call. Petru flopped and went down like a ton of bricks. Flop. His back was fine. Missed call though. Petru should have come in hot with an elbow on a rebound after. Don't get mad, get even. Lots of opportunity to get physical with an opponent without actually hurting anyone or crossing the line in a basketball game. Haws is a good player. Zags sucked and lost. BYU was good and won. Refs had nothing to do with it.
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Originally posted by CB4 View PostHaws is scrawny. It was a missed foul call. Petru flopped and went down like a ton of bricks. Flop. His back was fine. Missed call though. Petru should have come in hot with an elbow on a rebound after. Don't get mad, get even. Lots of opportunity to get physical with an opponent without actually hurting anyone or crossing the line in a basketball game. Haws is a good player. Zags sucked and lost. BYU was good and won. Refs had nothing to do with it.
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Watching tonight's game with BYU was the equivalent of a 2 hour root canal without anesthesia. And without dental insurance. The Zags played poorly, but still could have come out with the W had the officiating been even mediocre. Alas, it was not even up to mediocre, it was blatantly one-sided in favor of BYU. And what kind of sportsmanship is shown by the BYU player (Seljass?) who stepped to the free throw line late in the game to shoot the bonus when he was what -20 feet away from where the foul occurred? He knew he wasn't the player to be shooting the free throws, but up he steps to the line cool as a cucumber, innocent as can be. That takes a special mindset ... one I want nothing to do with. I wonder ... did Coach Pope instruct him to go to the foul line instead of the player who was really fouled? My hunch is that he did. There's losing ... and then there's losing to BYU like we did tonight. This loss was special."Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand."
—Kurt Vonnegut
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Cant say if Petrusev flopped or not..but he was moving and got a blindside push. For all the Flag 1 calls I've seen (many were for far less) I was surprised of all officiating in the country that the WCC didnt call that.
Petrusev needs to get stronger, as does Timme. BYU out muscled them the majority of the game.
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Originally posted by Zags11 View PostYou proved my point dixie. Im actually chill rn. I thought we would lose in BYU. It just sucks to watch doubling down and allowing open looks.
Im done debating. Its obvious Few is a God and perfect and it is the players.
agree on the doubling down, but there really wasn't a good option there as tillie was in foul trouble and byu was iso'ing childs on him in the post. zags were doubling and childs still put up 28 so what would you do???
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Post game thoughts vs BYU
Originally posted by ballerstatus View PostCant say if Petrusev flopped or not..but he was moving and got a blindside push. For all the Flag 1 calls I've seen (many were for far less) I was surprised of all officiating in the country that the WCC didnt call that.
Petrusev needs to get stronger, as does Timme. BYU out muscled them the majority of the game.The Bulldogs and coach Mark Few credited No. 23 BYU for ‘taking it to us’ in every phase of the game at the sold-out Marriott Center in battle of ranked teams
[QUOTE ]“They were tougher and outplayed us,” Petrusev said. “We let them outplay us and they beat us.”
Petrusev said BYU surprised the Zags with its physicality after not putting up much of a fight in Spokane.
“Yeah, I mean, we knew they were going to come in, swipe at the ball, throw some punches around. Like, they always do that,” he said. “We walked in kind of like, softly. ... We beat them easily at home, so it was kind of a surprise, yeah.”
Asked if BYU was literally throwing punches, Petrusev clarified: “Well, they make plays, like really, really physical, to a point where it is a foul most of the time. The referees let them play … hey kinda let the contact and physicality (go). They are really, really physical.”[/QUOTE]
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