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    Default Gonzaga vs St Marys Post Game thoughts and analysis

    Gonzaga 90
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    I had a sneaky feeling the Zags were going to be ready for this one, and they sure were. They just played awesome, especially the first half when the Zags were up 53 to 26. Kispert hit a three at the buzzer. They shot close to 80% in the first half. I mean it was unreal. It really was. To start the game off the Zags made 14 of their first 15 shots. Including a few 3's. They just couldn't miss. They played slower the second half, but continued to play real good defense.

    The Zags played really awesome D imo. I"m sure some will argue that (I wonder who). Zags held Fitts scoreless the second half. He played pretty well the first half and led St Mary's with 12. Overall we guarded Ford pretty well, but he did hurt us some, but not enough to make a difference. St Mary's, as I thought just could not guard the Zags.

    Our post players absolutely killed them. Again Timme led them with 20 and 10, Petrusev had 18 and 10 and Killian Tillie had 19 and made 3-5 three pointers. KIspert had ten and was 2-4 from behind the 3 point line. The Zags shot 67% for the game, and shot 53% from behind the arc. Finally they shot 72% from the foul line, 10-14.

    I guess the best way to describe this game is that I was in shock. We LOOKED SO GOOD. Both on offense and defense. Our defense in the first half was SOOOOOO good. It was beautiful to watch. St Mary's missed every 3 point attempt the first half, but managed to hit some in the second. I loved how patient our guards were, as they really were trying to get the ball into the post most of the night. Woolridge did score 11 and made some beautiful drives with very tricky shots. Gilder only scored 7, but shot 2-4 and made a 3. Ayayi was so focused on playing his role of being a very good passer. I love how unselfish are guards are, and when they need to they follow the game play. It was obvious that the plan was to feed the post players, and for the guards to focus on passing, rebounding and defense. Gilder is just sooooo tough. I talked about how well he guarded that good player the other night, and it was a repeat tonight. Fitts was just so ineffective that second half. He's a good player, but the Zags had a good plan. AND honestly, they had a great defensive plan all night long. The only player who is hurting us is Petrusev. I hope he somehow figures it all out defensively.

    I'm pretty happy. Unbelievable win. I hope everyone is happy. I know that ZAG NATION is ecstatic...Hey we just beat St Mary's by 30 in their gym. What? Yep! It's true. Thirty point thrashing. I wonder what some of the fans here are thinking>

    Just do it!
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    The Zags were pretty good.

    **Negative comment ahead*** Mark Few has said that Petrusev is a good kid, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but quitting on that play when he thought he should have gotten the ball wasn't a good look. Maybe he's just an emotional guy. This team shares the ball better than most teams in the country, and he gots the ball A LOT... **End of negative comment**

    Timme continues to get better and better. They say you are not a freshman anymore at this point of the season, but that isn't always true. However, Timme is playing great and looks like he's been here awhile.

    Great Zag defense was on display tonight, with the help of some missed bunnies from SMC. I hope this does some good for their defensive efficiency rating. I thought that the team looked bored the past two games and they showed what an interested Zag team can do tonight. They smothered the Gaels and Ford looked very tired, at times (but still managed to hit some step back threes after looking like he had run out of gas and made some bad turnovers as a result. He's a baller, though, and could play on so many teams. I hope the Gael who injured his shoulder is ok.

    I was worried that this could be one of those games where the shots came so easily early that they would quit falling and the game would be a struggle, but they never let SMC back in. I was very impressed with the overall effort tonight.

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    I was wondering why Bennett had Jordan Ford in the game at the end. The score was 90-57 with just seconds left.
    The over/under was 148 then Ford hit a 3 to give us the final score 90-60. Hmmm.
    I’m not saying, I’m just saying. You connect the dots. Maybe someone should call Mark Emmett.


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    So hard for me not to wander back over to GIAG and check in with their fan who claimed Zags were exposed by USF. He used that game to conclude that Zags are a fraud this year. I’ll wait till my beer buzz and victory euphoria wear off before I decide whether I should reply.

    Great game tonight. I expect BYU in Provo to be much more of a challenge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zag_Dad View Post
    So hard for me not to wander back over to GIAG and check in with their fan who claimed Zags were exposed by USF. He used that game to conclude that Zags are a fraud this year. I’ll wait till my beer buzz and victory euphoria wear off before I decide whether I should reply.

    Great game tonight. I expect BYU in Provo to be much more of a challenge


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    I saw that exchange. Probably best to let it go. He was wrong, he knows it.

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    Did anyone see the surprisingly long Bennett/Few handshake at the end? I was almost uncomfortable watching it and hope that Randy is feeling ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23dpg View Post
    I saw that exchange. Probably best to let it go. He was wrong, he knows it.
    It’s so tempting to make him admit he’s wrong but you’re right, best to be a gracious winner.

    So pleased with the victory tonight. By all measures SMC is a tournament team and we crushed them on their own court. Zags truly looking like a 1 seed.

    Still some games to go and opportunities for more quad 1 wins.

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    SMC averages 13 assists per game on the year. Tonight: 3.

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    I expected a blow out, posted a blow out prediction, and we saw a blow out. Gaels are solid but not at our level this year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Vulture View Post
    I expected a blow out, posted a blow out prediction, and we saw a blow out. Gaels are solid but not at our level this year.


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    The same was true last year. 2 regular season blowouts to prove it.

    How the heck did the WCC tourney loss happen last season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zag_Dad View Post
    It’s so tempting to make him admit he’s wrong but you’re right, best to be a gracious winner.

    So pleased with the victory tonight. By all measures SMC is a tournament team and we crushed them on their own court. Zags truly looking like a 1 seed.

    Still some games to go and opportunities for more quad 1 wins.
    after a game like that...any post by a zag on their board just comes off as gloating. no need to post at all.

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    I have a coworker who is an obnoxious Gaels fan. Every year, leading up to every game, I have to listen to how this is the year, this is the game. It used to annoy me, but its just become comical lately. Of course, he was predicting a big St Mary's win for tonight, telling me how tough it is to play in their building and how the Zags barely beat Santa Clara and SFU, so therefore, the Gaels would beat them handily.

    I honestly haven't seen too much of St Mary's this year, but from what I saw tonight, I wasn't impressed.

    I cannot express how much I love games like this. I can't wait to go back to work on Monday.
    My posts indicate that I don't seem to follow college basketball all that closely.

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    Never in my life have I been as proud to be a Zags fan as I am now. This was a statement win. The best part is that we have a whole 6 days to revel in this glory, we have Thursday off next week.

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    There is no 1A and 1B in the WCC. Under Few and Bennet's collective rein, there never has been. There is only 1 and 2.

    SMC can eek out an exciting win once in awhile, even a big win that can punch them a ticket into the dance, but when it come to habitually taking your rival to the wood shed, GU can spank em' real good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LTownZag View Post
    The same was true last year. 2 regular season blowouts to prove it.

    How the heck did the WCC tourney loss happen last season?
    coach few wanted to help fund wcc water polo teams with the extra cash for two teams making the dance?

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    There's a reason that BYU was way ahead of St. Mary's in Kenpom despite playing more than 1/3 of the season without the best player.

    Despite the crazy loss in the WCC tourney last year, SMC hasn't been the challenge to Gonzaga that BYU has been since Wiltjer's year. (2016)

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    Amazing game. A plus from everyone.
    Love the zags for life

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    I was pleased that our announcers pointed out the Zag catch-22 in any WCC win.
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    The Zags were 36-53 67.9% FG; 8-15 53.3% 3's; and 10-14 71.4% from the stripe! Petro and Timme with double doubles. The only downer was the careless TO's in the first half of the first half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    Did anyone see the surprisingly long Bennett/Few handshake at the end? I was almost uncomfortable watching it and hope that Randy is feeling ok


    Yes, I definitely noticed that too. Will be fun watching the next iteration of the Bennett/Few postgame handshake in Spokane in a couple weeks to see if this edition is an outlier or dawn of a new era.

    Seeing Tillie play so well and attacking the rim, not to mention ninja 3pt shooting, is my favorite takeaway from this game. Usually after such a great team performance I’d want their schedule to stay routine and keep things rolling w a Thursday night game but I’m glad Zags have a week off as Tillie (and Woolridge?) can use the recovery time.

    If you told me Zags would turn the ball over 5 times in the first 5 minutes on the road vs Gaels I’d assume an L was likely. Kind of amazing they didn’t let the uncharacteristic TO’s rattle them. Lots of talent on this team but the immeasurable “mental (and physical) toughness” component may just be this team’s greatest strength. Bodes well for NCAA tourney stage.
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    Good morning Zag fans: It's taken me a little while to realize that Gonzaga really did win by 30, and that I'm not in a dream. Wow! I thought that if Gonzaga could win by 16 points that it'd be a thrashing. However, if that were true what would I call a 30 point win? Stunning. WowZaga! The Zags dominated in every way.

    I mean, St Mary's is a pretty darn good team. They're ranked 37th overall on Kenpom. They're in pretty good company:Auburn 32, LSU 33. Wichita St 38, Cincinatti 40, Stanford 41, Oklahoma 44, Xavier 48, Florida 47, and Virginia 52. Imagine what people would be thinking AND saying if Gonzaga had beaten any of these teams by 30? Most likely our boys won't be given the credit that they deserve. But that's okay. They know what they did and so do we (most of us anyway).

    Our offense is just so unreal, awesome. When you have seven guys who not only average 10 points a game or more, and everyone of those seven can score 20 on any given night (and do) you have a pretty darn good team. When you have one bench player scoring 20+ points a game lately, and the other capable of scoring 15+, you have to admit that this is a special kind of team. I remember when the Zags had Collins on the bench (the year we made it to the Final 4). I think he averaged 9 points a game or so and was drafted in the first round. I don't remember him scoring 20 points in any game let alone in 4 straight games, and one of those against St Mary's. AND then look at Gilder. He too has been scoring around 15 points a game lately and playing starter minutes. Come on! COME ON!!! The Zags have two bench players who are both starters, so that's 7 starters on this team. Can any other team say that? I just checked my drink and it's not Kool-Aid, it's coffee. hahaha

    The Zags have 3 post players who can all average 20 points a game if they wanted to, and all three almost got 20 last nght. And all 3 are different kinds of players with different kinds of talents. The post players just dominated last night. You have Tillie who was on the Wooden List and still should be and would be if he hadn't gotten injured. You have Petrusev who IS on that list. And finally, you have Timme who just may be better than both of them. Could you imagine 3 guys on the Wooden List?

    AND THEN we have 4 guards who are just so much fun to watch because they play as if basketball is an art. The way they handle the ball is just so wonderful to watch. At times the ball movement is so beautiful that I forget that I'm watching a basketball game in a basketball arena, and think I'm in a theater watching a play. The thing I love most about these guys is they are totally unselfish. As good as they are, they are willing to be passers when the plan is to get the ball into the post players. Or when the plan is to move the ball from side to side and then back to the other side with lightening speed, in order to get a better chance of scoring. And like I've said before, these guards can attack the basket like no other guard combination that has come before them.

    That game last night was just awesome. Thank you Zags for putting on quite a show. You left something in the minds of all those who attended that game. Golly Moses you guys sure like playing on the Road. Again, thank you, and keep it up. Be humble.

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    Go Zags!!! The Best Is Yet To Come!!!

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    I think I saw the Gaels's girlfriends getting on Gonzaga's bus and leaving town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonstu View Post
    SMC averages 13 assists per game on the year. Tonight: 3.
    great stuff too.

    what I saw for why that happened was Zags played a lot of M2M no help, especially in the post, forced their bigs to try and do something and create a basket from the post 1v1. they struggled, so they'd pass out even when 1v1, so it was to a marked player on the perimeter or right to a Zag, SMC even threw it back out to nobody more than once and Zags got some nice turnovers on SMC overpassing, so sweet. Zags did not overhelp and forced tough 2s often with no help, then grabbed the boards or forced the TO and off to the races

    Also, Zags did NOT help on the drive or the post up too often but were forced to at times, SMC got them scrambling more than once, but Zag rotations were pretty good, players pointing and communicating. The predictions thread on the Petro hard hedge was spot on too Markburn, and there was some sagging to help cover the roll but no overhelping, but Petro's growth in that specific defensive technique in the last couple of weeks as noted here (hoopaholic noted his better angles on the gamethread, and I also think his footwork on his slides are better, shorter quicker slide steps) has changed the Zags and him, my opinion; that was Petro's best defensive game imo

    SMC want you to help and then they kick to get you scrambling, whether out of the screen/roll or the penetration or the post up, whatever. Zags took that away and made them try to finish with the ball instead of create for others. Ford was really the only guy who could do it

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    This was my first time this year watching SMC and I have to say...............not impressed. Maybe I caught them on a really off night, but come on.........3 assists, no makes from behind the arc in the 1st half, etc. Ford is good and Fitts is OK, but no one else on their roster even showed up for their biggest game of the year. The 8 ZAG TO's in the first 7 or so minutes were just gifts, not due to SMC defense or anything else. Without those, the guys would have easily been up 30+...........at the half. That's WCC bottom feeder results, and on their home floor.

    Another beatdown like that at the Kennel in a couple of weeks and SMC has no legs to stand on for a berth in the dance, no resume to claim (5+ conference losses, really, in the WCC). Just another overrated SMC team being exposed.

    Go ZAGS

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    Reborn, great post and I agree we have seven starters and the players do a great job of finding the hot hand and mismatches. Timme is doing fantastic at attacking the boards and getting us that extra shot. Great year and fun to watch. This is the year that I thought was total rebuilding, but Admond and Ryan are unbelievable in making this a contender

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