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    Default ZN, we need a Scholarship Chart update

    Congratulations to Portland native (and Zag sharpshooter) Matthew Lang. Coach Few has put him on full Scholarship.

    Lang joins Gonzaga stalwarts Mike Hart, David Stockton, Jeremy Jones, Kyle Bankhead, Mark Spink, Mike Nilson and host of others who have gone from walk on to scholarship Zags.

    Attaboy Matt !!!

    Very proud of you.

    "To be continued ....."
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoZags View Post
    Congratulations to Portland native (and Zag sharpshooter) Matthew Lang. Coach Few has put him on full Scholarship.

    Lang joins Gonzaga stalwarts Mike Hart, David Stockton, Jeremy Jones, Kyle Bankhead, Mark Spink, Mike Nilson and host of others who have gone from walk on to scholarship Zags.

    Attaboy Matt.
    That’d be a heck of a team.

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    Congrats Matthew!
    This post is for March Madness seeding purposes only.

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    Wonderful for Matthew!!
    “When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.”

    ~ Desiderius Erasmus

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    ZagNative for threeeeeee !!! Nothing but twine. Just like Matthew Lang from deep with free tacos on the line.

    "To be continued ....."
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    Any idea if it is just for the remainder of this year or will it be next year as well?

    And thank you ZN for your prompt reply!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spike_jr View Post
    Any idea if it is just for the remainder of this year or will it be next year as well?

    And thank you ZN for your prompt reply!
    That is never announced but in the Monson/Few era every walk on getting a full ride has kept his scholarship for the duration of his schooling. And based on the respect/value Few, Lloyd and the rest of staff have for Lang my “educated” guess is there won’t be any changes in that philosophy.

    "To be continued ....."
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    Quote Originally Posted by spike_jr View Post
    Any idea if it is just for the remainder of this year or will it be next year as well?

    And thank you ZN for your prompt reply!
    I believe ZN's charts always show scholarship players blocked out by year's of eligibility left; I don't think it's an indication of how long the scholarship will be held, just how long it could be held.

    If you earn your schollie as a walk-on, your much more likely to have it the next semester/year but I don't think there are any guarantees. Probably only Lang and the coaches know the details but the info could be out there.

    Congrats to Lang as his proud Papa.
    We are on this earth to live, not to avoid death.

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    Congrats to Lang. And yes that would be a heck of a hustle team. Great game they played today.

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    Awesome for Matthew! THAT IS WHAT COLLEGE ATLETICS SHOULD BE ABOUT!
    I was more than fortunate myself to have a atlhletic scolarship. I played a sport that lost money at the end of the year but I still had the benefits of the sports that made a profit
    If I had to pay back the value of my scolarship 30 years ago it was about 75,000.
    Some of my friends had student loans, I didn't !
    I was way ahead of the game with no debt!
    Today all people focus on is that coaches and university are making all the money!
    Correct me if I'm wrong but dont students pay tuition to keep the university going?
    Last time I checked (full) scolarship pay nothing. I would say the value is at least 120,000 and maybe
    up to 300,000.
    Should we pay scolarship athletes, no way! But it's going to happen!
    The last thing a 18 or 19 year old needs is to be directed to a school so he can make more money and help his family! Who needs that pressure at that age! More kids will drop out than will graduate!
    Coaches make good money sure!
    Show me a Div 1,2 or 3 coach that hasn't slept in the back seat of a car or a friends floor for an extended period of time. They are professionals, if they do a poor job they get fired!
    Paying for a education should have tremendous value, how many kids make a sustainable living at the sport they played in college? 1%?
    Giving Matthew a scolarship is not only well deserved on his part but a tremendous investment for the university.
    Well done Matthew!
    Unfortunately today to many athletes think a scolarship is normal and that is what is supposed to happen!
    If scolarship athletes are are allowed to make more than 10,000 a year we are going to have a serious problem! Kids will be put in a situation that most will not be prepared for! College athletes are not pros, dont treat them like they are. They are kids and not ready for that responsibility!!!
    I wish there were more stories like Matthew's in the NCAA! An Athletic scolarship is worth its weight in gold plus plus plus!!!!!

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    Originally Posted by spike_jr
    Any idea if it is just for the remainder of this year or will it be next year as well?

    And thank you ZN for your prompt reply!
    Quote Originally Posted by GoZags View Post
    That is never announced but in the Monson/Few era every walk on getting a full ride has kept his scholarship for the duration of his schooling. And based on the respect/value Few, Lloyd and the rest of staff have for Lang my “educated” guess is there won’t be any changes in that philosophy.
    As is the case with all basketball scholarships ... this one is on a "year by year" basis ... and because it's been given to a walk-on it isn't a guarantee beyond this year. That being said ... that's how it's worked for every Zag who has gone from walk-on to scholarship. So there's a chance it won't be for the remainder of Matthew's career .... but there's a strong chance that it will (like it was for the other guys in the same situation).

    As for scholarships being "year by year" ... this takes me back to when I (and many others) felt things had changed with our beloved program. Jimmy Tricco was a recruited, scholarship player who was a Senior in high school at the beginning of Gonzaga's "cute little run". Jimmy was on the 2nd and 3rd of the "back to back to back" Sweet 16 (or beyond) seasons '99-01 .... and after his sophomore year, was told he'd no longer be on a basketball scholarship at Gonzaga. His ride was needed for a J.C. transfer. Few helped Jimmy transfer to Duquesne .... but man .... was that situation a "wake-up" call for folks who followed the program (and liked Tricco ...who was a GREAT kid and a great teammate). https://gozags.com/news/2001/8/6/Jim..._Duquesne.aspx

    So ... the reality is with the way the Zags are currently recruiting ... and the "unknowns" vis a vis guys leaving for the NBA or overseas professional basketball .... there isn't a guarantee that Matthew will stay on scholarship the remainder of his career.

    But I like his chances.

    "To be continued ....."
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoZags View Post
    That is never announced but in the Monson/Few era every walk on getting a full ride has kept his scholarship for the duration of his schooling. And based on the respect/value Few, Lloyd and the rest of staff have for Lang my “educated” guess is there won’t be any changes in that philosophy.
    Mike Hart was not on scholarship for the 2011-2012 season, but he was on scholarship for the 2nd semester of the 2010-2011 season and the whole 2012-2013 season

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    Quote Originally Posted by exclusivelee View Post
    Mike Hart was not on scholarship for the 2011-2012 season, but he was on scholarship for the 2nd semester of the 2010-2011 season and the whole 2012-2013 season
    Appreciate your post ... and I guess that helps answer Spike Jr's question.

    "To be continued ....."
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    RIGHT ON FLA ZAG
    Scholarships and "rides" are gifts which the recipient should cherish and take seriously. Basketball is fun and maybe 1% make the big bucks in NBA but the others ought to be attentive to the "gifts" they receive and the experience they have working with Few, Lloyd, Michelson, Powell, etc., for maturity and successful life. Nigel-Williams may never see the court this year for Utah Jazz with their powerful team but we know he's ready for the next step in his life.
    I had a four-year ride from 1957 to 1961 to write basketball publicity for Zags (or no way I could go to college) and my grades were less than average. I opined later because it was "free" I didn't appreciate it enough. Fortunately the Jesuit influence did something to allow me 10 years later to enter Law School and fashion a professional career. I thank Father Morton, Father Dussault, Father Harrington and Hank Anderson for that privilege.

    We are blessed with Few's philosophy of picking recruits which by and large buy into the family model to be great players but also great men. We can look to many of them over the years. Scholarships are a hand up and an opportunity for excellence waiting for a young man to grab the gold ring. Congratulations Matt Lang.

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