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  • zagnut2012
    Kennel Club Material
    • Dec 2009
    • 257

    NCAA votes to allow Athlete Compensation.

    Oh boy...Here we go Pandora's Box is officially open.....



    The NCAA's top decision-makers voted unanimously Tuesday to start the process of modifying its rule to allow college athletes to profit from their names, images and likenesses "in a manner consistent with the collegiate model."


    “The board is emphasizing that change must be consistent with the values of college sports and higher education and not turn student-athletes into employees of institutions,” said board chair Michael V. Drake.
    Last edited by zagnut2012; 10-29-2019, 11:15 AM. Reason: added content
  • CB4
    Zag for Life
    • Feb 2009
    • 1049

    #2
    "The NCAA Board of Governors has taken the first step toward allowing athletes to cash in on their fame. The board voted unanimously on Tuesday to clear the way for the amateur athletes to "benefit from the use of their name, image and likeness."

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    • Mr Vulture
      Zag for Life
      • May 2008
      • 2538

      #3
      Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. They voted to allow this but they also had a caveat that it had to fit within the college model. This tells me they are trying to figure out how to allow it with limits/controls.

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      • strikenowhere
        Zag for Life
        • Sep 2009
        • 2430

        #4
        Maybe, just maybe, I'll finally be able to helm the Zags to the Natty in NCAA 2K 2021

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        • RenoZag
          Super Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 42446

          #5
          Didn't take long for a member of Congress to weigh in on the NCAA's news; from Senator Richard Burr ( North Carolina ):

          "If college athletes are going to make money off their likenesses while in school, their scholarships should be treated like income. I’ll be introducing legislation that subjects scholarships given to athletes who choose to “cash in” to income taxes."

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          • Hoopaholic
            Moderator
            • Mar 2008
            • 8796

            #6
            Originally posted by RenoZag View Post
            Didn't take long for a member of Congress to weigh in on the NCAA's news; from Senator Richard Burr ( North Carolina ):

            "If college athletes are going to make money off their likenesses while in school, their scholarships should be treated like income. I’ll be introducing legislation that subjects scholarships given to athletes who choose to “cash in” to income taxes."

            https://twitter.com/SenatorBurr/stat...62863552208896
            agree with this position I would also like to see a cap on salary for coaching positions
            The ones that want to love us when we’re up & kick us when we’re down, screw off honestly. Drew Timme January 2023

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            • Bouldin4Prez
              Kennel Club Alum
              • Nov 2009
              • 434

              #7
              Originally posted by Hoopaholic View Post
              agree with this position I would also like to see a cap on salary for coaching positions
              Such a lame position. They should be subject income taxes on whatever they make off their likeness, no one disagrees with that. But if a student athlete makes $1,000 signing autographs and memorabilia, they should pay taxes on a $60,000 scholarship? Come on, man.

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              • Mr Vulture
                Zag for Life
                • May 2008
                • 2538

                #8
                Originally posted by Bouldin4Prez View Post
                Such a lame position. They should be subject income taxes on whatever they make off their likeness, no one disagrees with that. But if a student athlete makes $1,000 signing autographs and memorabilia, they should pay taxes on a $60,000 scholarship? Come on, man.
                Why would a scholarship be taxable, that seems like quite a leap to me. Do they tax those on other scholarship types as income if they work outside of school?

                Also, the poster above saying a "cap for coaching positions"...what does that have to do with this subject?

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                • tummydoc
                  Zag for Life
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 1178

                  #9
                  Agree, coaching salary is unrelated and a scholarship is not income to be taxed. What's wrong with a free market? It has been happening already under the table so let's just get it out in the open. I'd apply standard income tax to the student earnings. If only a few grand it's not much tax but large sums would be at a higher bracket. I really think this applies to a small fraction of student athletes. If Zion made 600k last year, would that have ruined the experience? Come on man!

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                  • hooter73
                    Zag for Life
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 5776

                    #10
                    Personally Im not for paying student athletes, taking the position of that their scholarship is a form of payment and college athletics is an avenue to a good paycheck down the road if they can play Pro (NBA or overseas). The school using their likeness, so what? They are giving you the opportunity for an education and opportunity for a future career. If student athletes watn to be paid, then they should treat it like a business. To me, as a businessman, I wouldnt want to be the number one NBA pick and go to the worst team in the league.

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                    • Hoopaholic
                      Moderator
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 8796

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bouldin4Prez View Post
                      Such a lame position. They should be subject income taxes on whatever they make off their likeness, no one disagrees with that. But if a student athlete makes $1,000 signing autographs and memorabilia, they should pay taxes on a $60,000 scholarship? Come on, man.
                      you can call my view lame all you want but I am comfortable with the position that if an individual is now going to a college to earn immediate income, instead of the primary reason of education that they have bypassed the intent of scholarship for education(in public setting that means tax payer dollars going to someone who is intent on getting education) and is now looking to be making a profit off the investment of a school, taxpayers etc so that scholarship should either be taxed or removed and given to someone else who is seeking the primary function of higher learning...education

                      i dont want my tax paying dollars to be funding a semi pro or "g league" type of entity.....

                      and where does this stop..do the PHD seeking researchers now get the money from their discoveries?
                      The ones that want to love us when we’re up & kick us when we’re down, screw off honestly. Drew Timme January 2023

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                      • CB4
                        Zag for Life
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1049

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hoopaholic View Post
                        you can call my view lame all you want but I am comfortable with the position that if an individual is now going to a college to earn immediate income, instead of the primary reason of education that they have bypassed the intent of scholarship for education(in public setting that means tax payer dollars going to someone who is intent on getting education) and is now looking to be making a profit off the investment of a school, taxpayers etc so that scholarship should either be taxed or removed and given to someone else who is seeking the primary function of higher learning...education

                        i dont want my tax paying dollars to be funding a semi pro or "g league" type of entity.....

                        and where does this stop..do the PHD seeking researchers now get the money from their discoveries?
                        Academic scholarships aren't taxed. Regular students can profit from their NIL without losing their scholarship or without tax consequences (on the scholarship). But you want to tax athlete scholarships? Ok. For tennis? Soccer? Rowing, too?

                        Regardless of your idea it's never going to happen.

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                        • Bouldin4Prez
                          Kennel Club Alum
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 434

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hoopaholic View Post
                          you can call my view lame all you want but I am comfortable with the position that if an individual is now going to a college to earn immediate income, instead of the primary reason of education that they have bypassed the intent of scholarship for education(in public setting that means tax payer dollars going to someone who is intent on getting education) and is now looking to be making a profit off the investment of a school, taxpayers etc so that scholarship should either be taxed or removed and given to someone else who is seeking the primary function of higher learning...education

                          i dont want my tax paying dollars to be funding a semi pro or "g league" type of entity.....

                          and where does this stop..do the PHD seeking researchers now get the money from their discoveries?
                          You're not upset about your money, you're upset that these kids are making money while in college. If you were truly upset about the money, you would be much more concerned with the $50 million dollar basketball facilities and football ops buildings going in than the kids paying income tax on a $50,000 scholarship.

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                          • Hoopaholic
                            Moderator
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 8796

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bouldin4Prez View Post
                            You're not upset about your money, you're upset that these kids are making money while in college. If you were truly upset about the money, you would be much more concerned with the $50 million dollar basketball facilities and football ops buildings going in than the kids paying income tax on a $50,000 scholarship.
                            gee thanks for letting me know what I am upset about or where my values lie...glad I got that straightened out

                            yes dont like the public entities spending those kind of money on infrastructure leveraging tax dollars to do it and going into debt for it........but I am sure you will correct me and let me know what my "real" position is
                            The ones that want to love us when we’re up & kick us when we’re down, screw off honestly. Drew Timme January 2023

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                            • Hoopaholic
                              Moderator
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 8796

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CB4 View Post
                              Academic scholarships aren't taxed. Regular students can profit from their NIL without losing their scholarship or without tax consequences (on the scholarship). But you want to tax athlete scholarships? Ok. For tennis? Soccer? Rowing, too?

                              Regardless of your idea it's never going to happen.
                              correct as we stand today they are not taxed, because they are provided for one to engage in the educational opportunities of higher learning......opening up the opportunity to make profit while leveraging societies tax money for you to attend to make money is flat out wrong and once that door is open and you elect to go that route I think you should be taxed on the benefits provided that allowed you the opportunity to make a profit...take you r choice but cant have it both ways on tax payer dollars simply wrong in my book
                              The ones that want to love us when we’re up & kick us when we’re down, screw off honestly. Drew Timme January 2023

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