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Thread: ESPN: 8/13/19 New TEAM RANKINGS. Zags at #7.

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    Default ESPN: 8/13/19 New TEAM RANKINGS. Zags at #7.


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    All due respect, that’s nutz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    All due respect, that’s nutz.
    Agreed

    Unproven at every single position, save Tillie, and that's a question mark as well.

    No set starter at PG

    6 incoming freshman to integrate.

    2 transfers coming off season-ending injuries.

    The only returning starter made little impact on offense outside C&S 3's and was a liability on defense (although much improved in March).

    The projected frontcourt were incredibly foul prone, even fouling out several games in less than 15 mins.

    So many open ended questions...but I do appreciate the respect, attention, & hopeful optimism.

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    I’d be ok with 15ish. And even that is more a lifetime achievement award

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therunner View Post
    Agreed

    Unproven at every single position, save Tillie, and that's a question mark as well.

    No set starter at PG

    6 incoming freshman to integrate.

    2 transfers coming off season-ending injuries.

    The only returning starter made little impact on offense outside C&S 3's and was a liability on defense (although much improved in March).

    The projected frontcourt were incredibly foul prone, even fouling out several games in less than 15 mins.

    So many open ended questions...but I do appreciate the respect, attention, & hopeful optimism.
    Maybe. Have to take into account the other programs. Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Villanova and Texas Tech all have essentially the same issues.

    Seventh seems a little high, but then again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    I’d be ok with 15ish. And even that is more a lifetime achievement award
    Maybe less of a lifetime achievement award and more of an acknowledgment of the leap in recruiting lately.

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    "Gonzaga faced some backcourt questions entering the offseason, especially after Zach Norvell decided to keep his name in the NBA draft. But Mark Few now has several options on the perimeter. He landed graduate transfers Admon Gilder (Texas A&M) and Ryan Woolridge (North Texas) and could also see an improved Joel Ayayi on the roster next season. Representing France in the FIBA U19 World Cup, Ayayi was one of the more impressive players in the event, averaging 20.9 points, 5.6 rebounds and 3.4 assists"

    Also SMC...
    The big question with Saint Mary's this season will be its inside play. The Gaels' best outfits under Randy Bennett have featured dominant post performers, from Diamon Simpson to Omar Samhan to Jock Landale. They won't get that level of play this season, but Bennett will need someone to produce inside with the departure of Jordan Hunter. Jock Perry hasn't been able to put it together, so Saint Mary's could pin its hopes on Seattle transfer Aaron Menzies getting a waiver to play next season. He should be able to, but there's been no official

    Possible 7 games vs this list during OOC and WCC play. Should give us plenty of tests to figure out where we really belong. Regardless, good to see GU in the national consciousness.

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    If everyone stays healthy, I think that is a possible rank at the end of the regular season but this is too high right now.

    Team defense and rebounding is going to be a big problem early in the season.
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    I think the ranking is more of a reflection of the current state of the college game. Everybody with a pulse as far as a pro career is concerned is leaving early, and every team with first or second tier talent has to revamp the roster every year. At this point, with everybody in flux all the time, it's just a guessing game, and the Zags have earned the benefit of the doubt with their past performances and their consistency in replacing key parts of the roster.

    As a comparison, I'll use the other team I follow, the Ducks at 17 before the commitment of Dante. who the writer says would move them inside the top 15. They have 3 returning players, and only one w/ a major impact last year in Pritchard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    I’d be ok with 15ish. And even that is more a lifetime achievement award
    +1

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    I get it’s the slow part of the year, but I could care less about any bracketology or rankings until there’s been basketball tipped off. Until then, it’s all guesswork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malastein View Post
    I get it’s the slow part of the year, but I could care less about any bracketology or rankings until there’s been basketball tipped off. Until then, it’s all guesswork.
    It's all guesswork until a champion is crowned. What's your point?

    It's just entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markburn1 View Post
    Maybe. Have to take into account the other programs. Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Villanova and Texas Tech all have essentially the same issues.

    Seventh seems a little high, but then again...
    Yeah, I have a hard time finding 8 teams behind us that all deserve to be in front of us. One or two maybe, not 8.
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    The real issue with us this year is that we have 8 new faces for the Zag system. We do have some good returnees ( Filip, Corey, Tillie, Ayayi) and it's a very good core, we really need the new guards to rise. I think we have sufficient bigs to win everything. Ballo ( my new fav) will help a lot as will Timme and Watson.
    if Few molds this group into a high major winner ( E 8 or better) it'll be his masterpiece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDABE80 View Post
    The real issue with us this year is that we have 8 new faces for the Zag system. We do have some good returnees ( Filip, Corey, Tillie, Ayayi) and it's a very good core, we really need the new guards to rise. I think we have sufficient bigs to win everything. Ballo ( my new fav) will help a lot as will Timme and Watson.
    if Few molds this group into a high major winner ( E 8 or better) it'll be his masterpiece.
    Good post.

    Just returning Tillie, Corey and bringing in Gilder is probably a top 10 team, so long as raw talent is above average around it, with all the other teams' losing so much talent, too.

    Gilder is new to GU, but this is one of the Wesley/Mathews type of "reliable" - He's a man, college graduate, been in big conference, big basketball games. He will be fine IMO.

    So that's a great 3-man core.
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