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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    I think at this point most everyone agrees that our conference affiliation and feasting on cupcakes for three months does not prepare us for the rigors of March madness as well as it does other teams that play in much more difficult conferences. Every single team left is in a P5 conference. Due to geographic limitations, we are sort of stuck though. But I do think I may have a good compromise;

    Do with the BE what ND does with the ACC in football; play 6-8 games a year vs them Including games in February and March. What say you? And would the Big East even agree to that?
    Why start a whole new thread about this? There is literally a “our conference is to blame for our loss” thread right above this. That you responded to.

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    That being said, idk how feasible it would be but I’m for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    You do realize that every team left is from a P5 conference, don't you. The WCC schedule is 3 months of cupcakes and as a fan I'm sick of it.
    Cupcakes twice a week for months is just not heathly or entertaining

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    Should we look at Wichita State leaving a couple years ago for the AAC, and not making tourney this season? How’d that move work for them? Oh a 6 seed in NIT. Good for them
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    Until we get the league we want, no reason to jump into the abyss. WCC isn't top notch but the limitations we have in Spokane are substantial. DO the best you can with what you've got= sage advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    Are you kidding me? Marquette, Villanova, Xavier, Seton Hall,Saint johns, Georgetown, Creighton are all superior to every team in the WCC except for us.
    Clearly the Big East is superior to the WCC. I didn't say otherwise. Other than Villanova, which team is routinely making deep runs in the Tourney? None of them. That is the point. And Georgetown sucks. They are very pale shadow of what they used to be. They almost never make the Tourney. Why even include them? I would argue St. Mary's is a better basketball program at this point that Georgetown. And St. John's, are you kidding? What have they done in the last decade or more? Nothing. BYU might even be a better program than St. John's, and I'm always bagging on BYU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    Should we look at Wichita State leaving a couple years ago for the AAC, and not making tourney this season? How’d that move work for them? Oh a 6 seed in NIT. Good for them
    Another good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pony View Post
    Add sports and join the Pac12. No reason that football couldn't be as successful as basketball.
    You don't add a football team to improve your basketball team prospects. You add football to have football and all else is secondary. That is why the Catholic 7 kicked football out of the Big East.

    Washington Post had a series on college athletics costs a few years ago. According to this article, Rutger's football losses in 2014 come out to $1 every second for the year; $31,536,000!

    Football becomes a money blackhole that sucks revenue from everything else a school does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDABE80 View Post
    Until we get the league we want, no reason to jump into the abyss. WCC isn't top notch but the limitations we have in Spokane are substantial. DO the best you can with what you've got= sage advice.
    Yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    Should we look at Wichita State leaving a couple years ago for the AAC, and not making tourney this season? How’d that move work for them? Oh a 6 seed in NIT. Good for them
    The AAC sucks so that doesn't mean much to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    The AAC sucks so that doesn't mean much to me.
    Huh? You’re allowed to have opinions but geez lol. Put 4 teams in tourney and we’re ranked higher than Pac12, and barely behind the Big east and SEC. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    Are you kidding me? Marquette, Villanova, Xavier, Seton Hall,Saint johns, Georgetown, Creighton are all superior to every team in the WCC except for us.
    I honestly think every one of those teams outside maybe Villanova would take at least four losses in the WCC this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    The AAC sucks so that doesn't mean much to me.
    And really all you did was prove my point lol
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    The way I see it, the biggest challenge to an 11 team Big East, 20 game schedule (10 road/10 away), is the far East teams (Nova/Providence/St. Johns/Georgetown/Seton Hall). The rest of the away games are mid west teams. The goal would be to mitigate travel stress.

    Trip 1 @ Providence/Seton Hall/St. John's - after Christmas, before school starts in mid January (3 games).

    Trip 2 @ Villanova, Georgetown on days near MLK weekend (2 games)

    Trip 3 @ Xavier/Butler on days near Presidents day weekend (2 games)

    Trip 4 @ Marquette, DePaul on week before/after week where Zags play only one home game (2 games)

    Trip 5: Single game at Creighton (1 game)

    Doable. Other programs stay in WCC or join Big West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitzbuel View Post
    I honestly think every one of those teams outside maybe Villanova would take at least four losses in the WCC this year.

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    Yup. Hell Gtown lost to LMU lol
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    Yeah it is but it would suck losing out on the auto bid and we'd need a good revenue sharing program for NCAa tournament units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB4 View Post
    Yeah it is but it would suck losing out on the auto bid and we'd need a good revenue sharing program for NCAa tournament units.
    Also it'd be tough to schedule noncon games in Jan and Feb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    Hasn't really done much for Butler either. Other than Villanova the Big East is nothing to get excited about.
    When you lose the best coach in college basketball you are going to fall off. They have had at least 4 NCAA bids every season since realignment, including 7 in 2016-2017. They have two national championships over that same period. The Big East is generally the third or fourth best basketball conference in the country depending on how good the SEC is. The only issue with joining the Big East, which is a major one, is travel. Gonzaga brings enough money to overcome that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    And really all you did was prove my point lol
    I want to move to a real conference. AAC is slightly better than the WCC, especially when you consider top to bottom.

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    21 straight appearancees in the tournament. 18 1st round wins, 5 sweet 16's in a row, 3 out of 5 years elite 8, a final 4, and a national championship game. That's one great run from a team in the lowly WCC.

    I can't imagine better results playing in a different league. Would we have more competition throughout the league if we moved? Yes. Would we change our ooc scheduling? Yes. We would swap tough ooc scheduling to more winnable teams like the p5 schools do. Making the tournament would be easier but seeding would probably fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    When you lose the best coach in college basketball you are going to fall off. They have had at least 4 NCAA bids every season since realignment, including 7 in 2016-2017. They have two national championships over that same period. The Big East is generally the third or fourth best basketball conference in the country depending on how good the SEC is. The only issue with joining the Big East, which is a major one, is travel. Gonzaga brings enough money to overcome that.
    Villanova has 2 National Championships. The rest of the league not only has no Titles, they also have no Final Four appearances I'm pretty sure (since the realignment). If the WCC doesn't prepare Gonzaga for the Tourney, why is GU doing better in the Tourney than every Big East team other than Villanova?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    Clearly the Big East is superior to the WCC. I didn't say otherwise. Other than Villanova, which team is routinely making deep runs in the Tourney? None of them. That is the point. And Georgetown sucks. They are very pale shadow of what they used to be. They almost never make the Tourney. Why even include them? I would argue St. Mary's is a better basketball program at this point that Georgetown. And St. John's, are you kidding? What have they done in the last decade or more? Nothing. BYU might even be a better program than St. John's, and I'm always bagging on BYU.
    St. Mary's was better this year than Georgetown. Georgetown is light years ahead of them as a program. The only thing holding Georgetown back is politics. The administration could not fire JT3 without bringing in another African American coach. Ewing was decent in his first year. Georgetown is one of the top dogs in the best recruiting area in the country and has tons of resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB4 View Post
    The way I see it, the biggest challenge to an 11 team Big East, 20 game schedule (10 road/10 away), is the far East teams (Nova/Providence/St. Johns/Georgetown/Seton Hall). The rest of the away games are mid west teams. The goal would be to mitigate travel stress.

    Trip 1 @ Providence/Seton Hall/St. John's - after Christmas, before school starts in mid January (3 games).

    Trip 2 @ Villanova, Georgetown on days near MLK weekend (2 games)

    Trip 3 @ Xavier/Butler on days near Presidents day weekend (2 games)

    Trip 4 @ Marquette, DePaul on week before/after week where Zags play only one home game (2 games)

    Trip 5: Single game at Creighton (1 game)

    Doable. Other programs stay in WCC or join Big West.
    But there is no invitation.

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    Gonzaga does well in spite of, not because of the WCC. Do not confuse correlation with causation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    When you lose the best coach in college basketball you are going to fall off. They have had at least 4 NCAA bids every season since realignment, including 7 in 2016-2017. They have two national championships over that same period. The Big East is generally the third or fourth best basketball conference in the country depending on how good the SEC is. The only issue with joining the Big East, which is a major one, is travel. Gonzaga brings enough money to overcome that.
    Joining a league for just 1 sport would seem like a desperate suggestion to provide the image of upgrading the men’s BB program. Having all the sports join the BE would be crazy. There really doesn’t appear to be a good option for GU other than remaining in the WCC. JMO.

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