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    I do agree with other posters this seems like the wvu team we beat to eventually go to title game. I can see that as well but we must be ready for 40 minutes of physical play.

    Sure would be nice to see zn have a hot game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenneZag View Post
    Throw spreads out the window, it means nothing at this point. If you dont show up nor play 40 minutes of good basketball you go home.
    No more complicated than that...anyone of these teams can win and advance or lose and go home....that is always the case but now the teams are so evenly matched there won't be any true upsets....

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    I don't need the metrics to know that these are two great teams that match up well. Hopefully revenge will be a motivating factor for the Zags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartruff1 View Post
    Well I don't believe in the Pope nor do I believe in Pomeroy.....both the AP and the Coaches Polls had about the same success identifying the Sweet Sixteen and the Net Rankings did almost as well.....the term Chicken Little is a pejorative…. a insult to those who have a opinion that Florida State will be a difficult team to beat and may win...... it wasn't necessary to a otherwise informative post.

    The odds makers have Gonzaga as a 7 point favorite …..I have more faith in them than the Pope or Pomeroy's adjusted numbers..
    You may not believe in me or have in faith in me, but I believe you exist Bart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo Roncalli View Post
    but I believe you exist Bart.

    Just like Gonzaga.
    This post is for March Madness seeding purposes only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zags11 View Post
    Yep on 5 for 12 shooting with multiple missed layins and was blocked multiple times. This shows he was bothered by the length. Others shot bad too but Rui is our best player even then with tillie out.

    Also Rui has known to disappear and be passive if we want to be honest. He did it vs SMC and Baylor this yr. He doesnt attempt shots. The physicalness made him passive.

    Last yr he made a jumper vs FSU with 10:50 left. He didnt even attempt a shot again. Zags were down 7. He checked out.

    You worry too much. Last year the Zags lost Tillie right before the FSU game and with no time to adjust, didn't have a plan to stretch the Seminoles D. I think people on here really don't understand not just how much losing Tillie hurt, but also how much of an effect not having any time to practice and adjust to not having him in there had on the S16 game vs FSU last year. It was a giant blow to the Zags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo Roncalli View Post
    You may not believe in me or have in faith in me, but I believe you exist Bart.
    Solipsism ....

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    Brandon Clarke's Numbers Shouldn't Be Possible

    Clarke blew away all other scorers with 36 points on 15-of-18 shooting (well, and dunking) and also stuffed the Bears’ offense with 5 blocks. The stat line is impressive on its own, but it wasn’t a one-off. It continues the trend of ultra-efficient dominance that Clarke has set this season. In his 35 games, Clarke has more blocked shots (107) than missed field goals (105).

    This incredible feat appears to be almost unprecedented for a player who scores as much as Clarke does (17.0 points per game). According to Sports-Reference’s college basketball season finder, the only player ever to have a higher field goal percentage than Clarke with as many blocks is the 7-foot-6 former UC Irvine center Mamadou Ndiaye, who managed it during his 2013-14 freshman season. Ndiaye went 111-for-157 from the field that year, while Clarke this year has gone 244-for-349. Ndiaye had a fine college career, but Clarke is a very different player. For one thing, he’s 6-foot-8. For another, he dunks like a vintage Shawn Marion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caduceus View Post
    I went to a game at the Bren center just to see Mamadou play....they lost to Long Beach State. Monson

    In January, in a game at rival Long Beach State, coach Dan Monson told reporters that he believed his team was still afraid to attack the paint even when N'Diaye was sitting on the bench. In early February, N'Diaye broke the school's single-game block record for the second time in the season, totaling with 11 blocked shots and 10 rebounds against Long Beach State.
    Can't wait to see Clarke at the Honda Center. Look forward to gasps from crowd as he rejects FSU shots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpn17 View Post
    You worry too much. Last year the Zags lost Tillie right before the FSU game and with no time to adjust, didn't have a plan to stretch the Seminoles D. I think people on here really don't understand not just how much losing Tillie hurt, but also how much of an effect not having any time to practice and adjust to not having him in there had on the S16 game vs FSU last year. It was a giant blow to the Zags.
    Yea i over worry in life. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by caduceus View Post
    That's amazing.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
    Mark Twain.

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    Here's some perspective. Nationally,

    FSU is #31 in average score margin. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #81 in points per game. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #123 in FGM/game. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #130 in Shooting Efficiency. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #133 in Second half PTS. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #144 in Two Point %. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #156 in Shooting %. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #172 in Effective FG%. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #210 in assist/TO margin. The Zags are #1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by caduceus View Post
    Here's some perspective. Nationally,

    FSU is #31 in average score margin. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #81 in points per game. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #123 in FGM/game. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #130 in Shooting Efficiency. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #133 in Second half PTS. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #144 in Two Point %. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #156 in Shooting %. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #172 in Effective FG%. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #210 in assist/TO margin. The Zags are #1.


    With stats like these it should boil down to attitude and character. Stir these in and there should be no way we lose.

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    All that comparison shows is the relative strength of the WCC and the ACC....if you think Gonzaga could produce those stats in the ACC you are delusional ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by caduceus View Post
    Here's some perspective. Nationally,

    FSU is #31 in average score margin. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #81 in points per game. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #123 in FGM/game. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #130 in Shooting Efficiency. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #133 in Second half PTS. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #144 in Two Point %. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #156 in Shooting %. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #172 in Effective FG%. The Zags are #1.

    FSU is #210 in assist/TO margin. The Zags are #1.


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    Breathing is good....if is also good to have 4 teams in the Sweet Sixteen....I have no idea how good Gonzaga is because they haven't played anyone worth a damn since North Carolina.....on the other hand, I know Florida State is good...perhaps the second best team in the ACC behind North Carolina.....

    I picked Gonzaga to win and I am hoping that they do.....but.... we shall see if they are a pretender or a contender tomorrow... when all the dick wagging will end and the game will be played...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartruff1 View Post
    Breathing is good....if is also good to have 4 teams in the Sweet Sixteen....I have no idea how good Gonzaga is because they haven't played anyone worth a damn since North Carolina.....on the other hand, I know Florida State is good...perhaps the second best team in the ACC behind North Carolina.....

    I picked Gonzaga to win and I am hoping that they do.....but.... we shall see if they are a pretender or a contender tomorrow... when all the dick wagging will end and the game will be played...
    Everything IS Relative!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartruff1 View Post
    Breathing is good....if is also good to have 4 teams in the Sweet Sixteen....I have no idea how good Gonzaga is because they haven't played anyone worth a damn since North Carolina.....on the other hand, I know Florida State is good...perhaps the second best team in the ACC behind North Carolina.....

    I picked Gonzaga to win and I am hoping that they do.....but.... we shall see if they are a pretender or a contender tomorrow... when all the dick wagging will end and the game will be played...
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    KenPom Sweet 16 Probabilities:

    Seed / Region Team Qtrs Semis Final Champ
    1S Virginia 81.9 55.0 37.0 22.1
    1S Gonzaga 74.0 44.7 26.1 15.2
    2E Michigan St. 74.6 41.5 21.8 11.7
    1E Duke 66.2 37.3 19.5 10.5
    1MW North Carolina 64.5 36..6 17.0 7.8
    2W Michigan 54.9 26.4 13.4 6.8
    2MW Kentucky 58.4 30.2 13.2 5.8
    3S Purdue 51.3 20.6 10.3 4.3
    3W Texas Tech 45.1 19.3 8.8 4.0
    2S Tennessee 48.7 19.0 8.8 4.0
    3MW Houston 41.6 17.7 6.4 2.3
    4E Virginia Tech 33.8 13.7 5.0 1.9
    5MW Auburn 35.5 15.5 5.2 1.8
    4W Florida St. 26.0 9.5 3.2 1.1
    3E LSU 25.4 7.5 2.1 0.6
    12S Oregon 18.1 5.4 1.6 0.3

    source: KenPom Blog


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    Quote Originally Posted by caduceus View Post
    KenPom Sweet 16 Probabilities:

    Seed / Region Team Qtrs Semis Final Champ
    1S Virginia 81.9 55.0 37.0 22.1
    1S Gonzaga 74.0 44.7 26.1 15.2
    2E Michigan St. 74.6 41.5 21.8 11.7
    1E Duke 66.2 37.3 19.5 10.5
    1MW North Carolina 64.5 36..6 17.0 7.8
    2W Michigan 54.9 26.4 13.4 6.8
    2MW Kentucky 58.4 30.2 13.2 5.8
    3S Purdue 51.3 20.6 10.3 4.3
    3W Texas Tech 45.1 19.3 8.8 4.0
    2S Tennessee 48.7 19.0 8.8 4.0
    3MW Houston 41.6 17.7 6.4 2.3
    4E Virginia Tech 33.8 13.7 5.0 1.9
    5MW Auburn 35.5 15.5 5.2 1.8
    4W Florida St. 26.0 9.5 3.2 1.1
    3E LSU 25.4 7.5 2.1 0.6
    12S Oregon 18.1 5.4 1.6 0.3

    source: KenPom Blog

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