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    Have you seen Melo Ball lately? Unbelievable talent!

    Wonder what the coaching staff thinks about him?

    Despite the prognosis being that he will not qualify as a student-athlete because of his stint in Lithuania and being the face of the family company, a lot of Zag recruits played for pro clubs growing up in Europe.

    Mathis Moerninghoff played for a club with a pro team before being recruited. Elias & Domas did, too; I bet Ronny did the same while in France as a teenager. They do not have high school teams in Europe. It is all about club teams. The top 1 or 2 teams of any modest to bigger city club, whether Division 1, 2, or 3 will usually be completely pro or consist of some pro players.

    What is the young fellow's crime? He was not being paid apparently. Yes, when it comes to his dad, there may be some opposition. But the dad only wants the best for his sons and family.

    If we got someone like Melo Ball, with his confidence and innate skills that cannot be taught, it would be arguably the most exciting time in Zagland since 05/06.

    My breakdown of him is that his passing/dribbling are off the charts. Unbelievable body control. Still growing into body but seems a legit 6'6". Underrated athlete, he gets a lot of dunks. Defense will be solid in team system and he has great hands and knack for getting into passing lanes. Shot is solid.

    He is so good that he doesn't even seem to try hard.

    What do you think?

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    JMO but he has more baggage than a Skycap.
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    No, thank you

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    Nice 1st post Mr Ball.

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    Why the hell would you ever, ever, ever want to deal with that headache of a family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigDawg View Post
    Have you seen Melo Ball lately? Unbelievable talent!

    Wonder what the coaching staff thinks about him?

    Despite the prognosis being that he will not qualify as a student-athlete because of his stint in Lithuania and being the face of the family company, a lot of Zag recruits played for pro clubs growing up in Europe.

    Mathis Moerninghoff played for a club with a pro team before being recruited. Elias & Domas did, too; I bet Ronny did the same while in France as a teenager. They do not have high school teams in Europe. It is all about club teams. The top 1 or 2 teams of any modest to bigger city club, whether Division 1, 2, or 3 will usually be completely pro or consist of some pro players.

    What is the young fellow's crime? He was not being paid apparently. Yes, when it comes to his dad, there may be some opposition. But the dad only wants the best for his sons and family.

    If we got someone like Melo Ball, with his confidence and innate skills that cannot be taught, it would be arguably the most exciting time in Zagland since 05/06.

    My breakdown of him is that his passing/dribbling are off the charts. Unbelievable body control. Still growing into body but seems a legit 6'6". Underrated athlete, he gets a lot of dunks. Defense will be solid in team system and he has great hands and knack for getting into passing lanes. Shot is solid.

    He is so good that he doesn't even seem to try hard.

    What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSERE View Post
    Nice 1st post Mr Ball.
    “The true measure of a Jesuit education,” said former Superior General Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, “is not what our students do, but who they become.”

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    The hardest of hard passes possible.
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    LaVar Ball is to Few as oil is to water
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    Wow, I cannot be the only one open to this idea.

    Lavar is a nuisance--yes--but he is calming down. Few and Lavar are not all that different. They are both great family men who deeply care about the sport. Obviously they show it in different ways.

    Lamelo on his own accord seems like a great kid. You should never base recruiting decisions on a family member. If we do that, it becomes a slippery slope. Let's not forget that both Meech's dad and also a certain former Portland area walk-on's dad had a very colorful past. Lavar may be a loud mouth but he is not an embezzler (unless you consider charging $495 for a pair of sneakers embezzlement).

    Lamelo--if you take away the media circus--is a top 5 recruit; a lottery pick. It really confounds my mental clarity why anyone would be opposed to bringing in such a fun to watch, super talented player. He may be the smoothest point guard we ever had.

    Oh and I did see a clip of him scoring on Pangos with ease several months ago. This was from last season when Melo was 15 or 16 and both were playing in the same country. The reason I mention this is because I think he will be better than Pangos. More consistent than Santangelo, much better size than Dickau.

    Yet, all of you say no. Don't forget before the harsh, one sided commentary continues, Lamelo is only 17. Most reasonable people would at least give a young kid like that a chance to prove himself before passing judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSERE View Post
    Nice 1st post Mr Ball.
    Exactly. Best of luck to the lad but not in Zags best interest to bring Big Baller Brand to Spokane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigDawg View Post
    Wow, I cannot be the only one open to this idea.

    Lavar is a nuisance--yes--but he is calming down. Few and Lavar are not all that different. They are both great family men who deeply care about the sport. Obviously they show it in different ways.

    Lamelo on his own accord seems like a great kid. You should never base recruiting decisions on a family member. If we do that, it becomes a slippery slope. Let's not forget that both Meech's dad and also a certain former Portland area walk-on's dad had a very colorful past. Lavar may be a loud mouth but he is not an embezzler (unless you consider charging $495 for a pair of sneakers embezzlement).

    Lamelo--if you take away the media circus--is a top 5 recruit; a lottery pick. It really confounds my mental clarity why anyone would be opposed to bringing in such a fun to watch, super talented player. He may be the smoothest point guard we ever had.

    Oh and I did see a clip of him scoring on Pangos with ease several months ago. This was from last season when Melo was 15 or 16 and both were playing in the same country. The reason I mention this is because I think he will be better than Pangos. More consistent than Santangelo, much better size than Dickau.

    Yet, all of you say no. Don't forget before the harsh, one sided commentary continues, Lamelo is only 17. Most reasonable people would at least give a young kid like that a chance to prove himself before passing judgment.
    This isn't about the young man but rather the baggage, intentional or not, that "he" brings with him...

    His father is toxic and GU doesn't need anything that disrupts its family atmosphere, which has made it so successful...

    I really can't imagine any coach wanting to deal with that family regardless of the talent...

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    I'm not sure how you did it BigDawg, but you evenhandedly forced me to close the office this afternoon to go Mountain Biking. Post more often, please. Double Black / Double Down is calling.

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    Other kids have come here from pro clubs, but never took any money. Doubt that is the case in this instance. And as has been stated, the Zags don't seem to have any problems getting enough talent into the program; was this the kid that got busted in China? Hell, the Dad is even trying to run the Laker's; why would the "lowly Zags" even bother?
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    Most reasonable people would at least give a young kid like that a chance to prove himself before passing judgment
    Most young kids don't have fathers whose role models include Marv Marinovich

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    Other kids have come here from pro clubs, but never took any money. Doubt that is the case in this instance. And as has been stated, the Zags don't seem to have any problems getting enough talent into the program; was this the kid that got busted in China? Hell, the Dad is even trying to run the Laker's; why would the "lowly Zags" even bother?
    No, that was the middle brother.

    As for the OP, I agree with 50. He was probably paid. That kinda ends it right there.
    As for the kid, I wish him well. He is talented. But even if all the other obstacles weren’t there, I doubt his style fits into Few’s system strictly from a b-ball standpoint.

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    I think it would be a riot.....but....no chance...

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    I guess it is unanimous then. No Melo in Zag uniform.

    In all probability, Melo wouldn't come anyway. Spokane is a lonely outpost 300 miles from the nearest slice of civilization. The winter would probably remind him too much of playing in Lithuania--snow and trees, etc.; and he hated Lithuania.

    Funny thing is, I bet if you asked Rui and Co. if they would want Melo on their team, it would be unanimous the other way around. Could you imagine all the points off alley-oop dunks with Melo on the roster? Rui, Kill & BC with Melo would be the most exciting team in basketball. Not college basketball. Basketball period.

    Tommy would want Melo I am sure. He seems open minded. We need to get cracking at recruiting one & dones in the first place. Coach K saw the light. Not sure if this can be ingrained into Few's subconscious so rapidly but Melo provides a surefire way to step up to the plate.

    I am sensing a level of closed-mindedness in this threat that I didn't think I would experience since a good number of posters are presumably the recipients of a first-rate Jesuit education. I haven't read one great argument why Melo shouldn't be recruited besides the super cliche statements that everybody already knows. I keep hearing family atmosphere. Lavar is all about family. Don't judge a book by its cover my friends. Free lesson for today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigDawg View Post
    I guess it is unanimous then. No Melo in Zag uniform.

    In all probability, Melo wouldn't come anyway. Spokane is a lonely outpost 300 miles from the nearest slice of civilization. The winter would probably remind him too much of playing in Lithuania--snow and trees, etc.; and he hated Lithuania.

    Funny thing is, I bet if you asked Rui and Co. if they would want Melo on their team, it would be unanimous the other way around. Could you imagine all the points off alley-oop dunks with Melo on the roster? Rui, Kill & BC with Melo would be the most exciting team in basketball. Not college basketball. Basketball period.

    Tommy would want Melo I am sure. He seems open minded. We need to get cracking at recruiting one & dones in the first place. Coach K saw the light. Not sure if this can be ingrained into Few's subconscious so rapidly but Melo provides a surefire way to step up to the plate.

    I am sensing a level of closed-mindedness in this threat that I didn't think I would experience since a good number of posters are presumably the recipients of a first-rate Jesuit education. I haven't read one great argument why Melo shouldn't be recruited besides the super cliche statements that everybody already knows. I keep hearing family atmosphere. Lavar is all about family. Don't judge a book by its cover my friends. Free lesson for today.
    Haha,none of us get a vote on who becomes a Zag.
    What are your thoughts on his eligibility? My guess is that he never plays a minute of college ball.
    Again, I wish the kid nothing but the best. Lonzo is a gifted pass first PG that I’m sure his teammates enjoy. If that’s Melo’s game, he’ll have a shot at the nba too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigDawg View Post
    I guess it is unanimous then. No Melo in Zag uniform.

    In all probability, Melo wouldn't come anyway. Spokane is a lonely outpost 300 miles from the nearest slice of civilization. The winter would probably remind him too much of playing in Lithuania--snow and trees, etc.; and he hated Lithuania.

    Funny thing is, I bet if you asked Rui and Co. if they would want Melo on their team, it would be unanimous the other way around. Could you imagine all the points off alley-oop dunks with Melo on the roster? Rui, Kill & BC with Melo would be the most exciting team in basketball. Not college basketball. Basketball period.

    Tommy would want Melo I am sure. He seems open minded. We need to get cracking at recruiting one & dones in the first place. Coach K saw the light. Not sure if this can be ingrained into Few's subconscious so rapidly but Melo provides a surefire way to step up to the plate.

    I am sensing a level of closed-mindedness in this threat that I didn't think I would experience since a good number of posters are presumably the recipients of a first-rate Jesuit education. I haven't read one great argument why Melo shouldn't be recruited besides the super cliche statements that everybody already knows. I keep hearing family atmosphere. Lavar is all about family. Don't judge a book by its cover my friends. Free lesson for today.

    I can't speak for Tommy and Rui personally, but from what I know from them it's a definite no. GU recruits a different type of kid/athlete no offense to Melo and the Ball family, but they are not GU material. That being said the 2019 point guard for GU will have some baggage of his own, but the staff has done their research on him and feel really comfortable with him coming to GU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caldwellzag View Post
    I can't speak for Tommy and Rui personally, but from what I know from them it's a definite no. GU recruits a different type of kid/athlete no offense to Melo and the Ball family, but they are not GU material. That being said the 2019 point guard for GU will have some baggage of his own, but the staff has done their research on him and feel really comfortable with him coming to GU.
    feeling good about harvey, then? haven't had a meaningful update on him in awhile. last i heard he hadn't visited and didn't have one scheduled, yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccerdud View Post
    feeling good about harvey, then?
    I would say we will see another commit for 2019 this spring that is not named Ballo (who should also commit as well). Personally I love Harvey's game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigDawg View Post

    I haven't read one great argument why Melo shouldn't be recruited
    How 'bout the fact that he's a ball hogging chucker. That tape of the 93 (or whatever it was) pt game says showoff, hot dog, half court heaver who would be a cancer on a Zag team. And there's the fact that association w/ daddy I could take Jordan would make the Zags' program a laughing stock.

    Good trolling, though.

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