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    Post Comments from Mike Roth re: Hanging jersey numbers in the rafters

    From Jim Meehan: http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...h-carolinas-h/

    “Rian Oliver, our head of compliance, met with their compliance folks. We’ve talked about retiring jerseys and we saw how they do those things.”

    North Carolina displays eight retired jerseys high in light-blue-colored rafters inside the Smith Center.

    Roughly 40 more players numbers are recognized (not retired) in three rows below the retired jerseys.

    “Their retired jerseys are national players of the year,” Roth said. “The rest of the numbers are at least two-time All-Americans. There are levels like that. In the NBA, you can wear No. 16 of No. 18. In college basketball, you can’t do that, so you have to be careful with how many numbers you retire.

    “We’ll talk about it and figure it out, whether it’s WCC player of the year or multiple time All-WCC. Hopefully, in the near future, you’ll see something from us.”

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    As I have stated on several occasions in here,
    I would like to see AMMO up there.
    The two presently hanging didn't achieve NCAA player of the year .
    Let's get it up while he is alive, not wait 60 more years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsGoZags View Post
    As I have stated on several occasions in here,
    I would like to see AMMO up there.
    The two presently hanging didn't achieve NCAA player of the year .
    Let's get it up while he is alive, not wait 60 more years.
    Totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsGoZags View Post
    As I have stated on several occasions in here,
    I would like to see AMMO up there.
    The two presently hanging didn't achieve NCAA player of the year .
    Let's get it up while he is alive, not wait 60 more years.
    I'm sure he will be. I'd like to see Ronny and Pzremyslaw too.

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    Remember, there are only 36 total jerseys that can ever be retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitzbuel View Post
    Remember, there are only 36 total jerseys that can ever be retired.

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    Is that what they were talking about it when they were comparing it to NBA jerseys in the article? I didn't quite follow. Are there not 101 numbers available? How does that work?

    eta: Ne'r mind. I googled it.

    eta: Also, even if we could only retire one jersey it should be Ronny Turiaf's. He's the most Zagginest Zag who ever Zagged.
    Last edited by Grand Valley Zag; 12-16-2018 at 12:08 PM. Reason: eta

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    I like the North Carolina model. Retire very few but honor more. I’d love to see a few jerseys honored by hanging in the Mac without having to officially retire them.
    The next two jerseys to be considered for retirement are Ammo and Vandersloot.

    I believe the Boston Celtics have retired so many jerseys they have duplicate numbers retired.

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    No number above 59 can be worn, so that officials can signal which player a foul is called on with just two hands. This leaves 0, 00, and 1 thru 59, for a total of 61. Zero is signed by a closed fist. Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelinZag View Post
    No number above 59 can be worn, so that officials can signal which player a foul is called on with just two hands. This leaves 0, 00, and 1 thru 59, for a total of 61. Zero is signed by a closed fist. Hope this helps.
    Isn’t it 55? That would make it a base 6 equation making Kitz’ number more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23dpg View Post
    Isn’t it 55? That would make it a base 6 equation making Kitz’ number more accurate.
    The article I read said that the digits 6-9 cannot be used. That would make it 37 including 00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Valley Zag View Post
    The article I read said that the digits 6-9 cannot be used. That would make it 37 including 00
    Correct. The 55 was in reference to the highest number allowed. Kitz wrote 36 as the total jersey numbers. 00 would indeed boost it to 37.

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    17 for Loscy and Hondo, the GREATEST EVER.


    Quote Originally Posted by 23dpg View Post
    I like the North Carolina model. Retire very few but honor more. I’d love to see a few jerseys honored by hanging in the Mac without having to officially retire them.
    The next two jerseys to be considered for retirement are Ammo and Vandersloot.

    I believe the Boston Celtics have retired so many jerseys they have duplicate numbers retired.

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    As Gonzaga's only college player of the year, Adam Morrison seems like the best candidate to have his men's basketball jersey number retired. First team All-Americans who were also academic All-Americans would seem to me to be automatics for the honor of having their jerseys hung in the rafters of the Kennel: Dan Dickau, Kelly Olynyk, Nigel Williams-Goss. From the women's side, I'd definitely favor Courtney Vandersloot for recognition. From way back, maybe Jerry Vermillion's No. 36? Who else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Valley Zag View Post
    The article I read said that the digits 6-9 cannot be used. That would make it 37 including 00
    Yeah, I forgot to count the 00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norcalzag View Post
    As Gonzaga's only college player of the year, Adam Morrison seems like the best candidate to have his men's basketball jersey number retired. First team All-Americans who were also academic All-Americans would seem to me to be automatics for the honor of having their jerseys hung in the rafters of the Kennel: Dan Dickau, Kelly Olynyk, Nigel Williams-Goss. From the women's side, I'd definitely favor Courtney Vandersloot for recognition. From way back, maybe Jerry Vermillion's No. 36? Who else?
    The winningest player in the history of Division I Men’s basketball might make the short list of players for consideration. I might even consider Karnowski’s full career body of work to exceed that of Kelly Olynyk (one year as a starter), Dan Dickau (two years in the program), or Nigel Williams Goss (one season in a Zag uniform).

    I’ve always thought that Jeff Brown should have been considered for the honor as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitzbuel View Post
    Remember, there are only 36 total jerseys that can ever be retired.

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    Yes and no. They can retire the number as many times as they decide. They can only retire Turiaf, or Ammo or Sloot's jersey once.

    Unless they decide to retire the number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    17 for Loscy and Hondo, the GREATEST EVER.
    I always thought of Bird as the greatest Celtic ever.
    Hoping you have a sense of humor too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Centre Mad Man View Post
    The winningest player in the history of Division I Men’s basketball might make the short list of players for consideration. I might even consider Karnowski’s full career body of work to exceed that of Kelly Olynyk (one year as a starter), Dan Dickau (two years in the program), or Nigel Williams Goss (one season in a Zag uniform).

    I’ve always thought that Jeff Brown should have been considered for the honor as well.
    2nd for Karnowski, the all time winningest player in the history of college basketball deserves big time recognition.
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    I'm sure the Jerseys will be hung by the rafters with care....in hopes that recruits will look and soon be there....

    Honestly I don't see why they can't hang a jersey and not retire the number. The number is most inconsequential part of that entire process and I don't think it demeans the spirit by which that jersey is raised. Tradition I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krozman View Post
    I'm sure the Jerseys will be hung by the rafters with care....in hopes that recruits will look and soon be there....

    Honestly I don't see why they can't hang a jersey and not retire the number. The number is most inconsequential part of that entire process and I don't think it demeans the spirit by which that jersey is raised. Tradition I guess.
    Agreed. I'm also on board with only retiring based on certain objective criteria, and then simply honoring everyone else. I don't care if we've got three different jerseys in the rafters with the same numbers - the names on the back will be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norcalzag View Post
    As Gonzaga's only college player of the year, Adam Morrison seems like the best candidate to have his men's basketball jersey number retired. First team All-Americans who were also academic All-Americans would seem to me to be automatics for the honor of having their jerseys hung in the rafters of the Kennel: Dan Dickau, Kelly Olynyk, Nigel Williams-Goss. From the women's side, I'd definitely favor Courtney Vandersloot for recognition. From way back, maybe Jerry Vermillion's No. 36? Who else?
    What about Frank Burgess?

    Sorry, jersey already retired. Thx 23dpg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    I always thought of Bird as the greatest Celtic ever.
    Bill Russell?

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyzag View Post
    2nd for Karnowski, the all time winningest player in the history of college basketball deserves big time recognition.
    Love Big Shem but don’t think he equates to having jersey retired.


    Quote Originally Posted by ProVeeZag View Post
    What about Frank Burgess?
    Think he and Stockton are already up there.

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    Ronny!

    The way he stood at center court on Senior Night his junior year, with his arms stretched out, facing the student section, smiling. You knew he was coming back for another year--because he loves GU!

    Big-time player. At the right time, player.

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    One criteria (among many) that needs to be met, IMHO, is that the player needs to have GRADUATED from GU. When AMMO left for the NBA he had yet to graduate. I thought I heard somewhere that he had returned and earned his degree. If so, put him up there..........

    Unlike the UNC comparison, GU players are real student/athletes, and the jerseys hanging in the rafters should reflect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    I always thought of Bird as the greatest Celtic ever.
    That would be Bill Russell. Height of a center, speed and quickness of a guard. 11 championships in his 13 years of playing in the NBA, winning the championship his rookie year. So many rings that when he wears them all he has to put 2 on one finger. He also lead San Francisco to 2 NCAA championships. He was so dominate defensively the NCAA widened the lanes.

    13 championships in 15 years will never be broken.

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