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    That game on the 4th is going to be crazy. Sierra canyon has like 6 D1 prospects vs our guys suggs and chet. Should be interesting

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    If ever there were a thread that could perfectly describe the fan base on this message board, this is THE thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankMyZAG View Post
    That game on the 4th is going to be crazy. Sierra canyon has like 6 D1 prospects vs our guys suggs and chet. Should be interesting
    They did a midnight madness hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnOGU View Post
    Have info?
    Nothing I'm at liberty to share. But what I can share is my opinion, and I believe Suggs will be a Zag next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caldwellzag View Post
    The overseas stuff is a legit concern and I do have info on that, but like I said GU is still the favorite. I put us at 80% yesterday, just saying those are pretty good odds. There are a few people in his inner circle that would like to see him make money next year, we just have to watch this play out, but ultimately I believe Suggs will be a Zag.
    I concur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagRecruitWatch View Post
    I concur.
    So what you are saying is that the sky is falling and that we should start insulting each other, Jalen and his people, and probably the entire state of Minnesota for good measure?!?!

    Naw, I feel good about the future even if the overseas thing occurs. Let’s also not pretend that where Jalen spends the next couple years is the most important decision in his life. Might be more important to the history of Gonzaga basketball than not, but even then the crystal ball can be quite murky!

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    It actually might be the most important decision in his life. If he goes somewhere that messes with his development it could cost him millions of dollars. Plenty of guys from 10-15 never sniff the league outside of summer league. And honestly going to Florida could be better for him than here on terms of making the league. One of my fears is that just because we can get our name associated with some of these top Americans guys we lose focus on recruiting where we have an advantage. For example if that guard from France a few years ago had worked out, it probably would have been best from him and us.

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    I'm over it already. Let January come so we can either look forward to the young man or move on already. I would hate to miss out on anymore potential suitors because we threw all of our eggs in 1 basket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    It actually might be the most important decision in his life. If he goes somewhere that messes with his development it could cost him millions of dollars. Plenty of guys from 10-15 never sniff the league outside of summer league. And honestly going to Florida could be better for him than here on terms of making the league. One of my fears is that just because we can get our name associated with some of these top Americans guys we lose focus on recruiting where we have an advantage. For example if that guard from France a few years ago had worked out, it probably would have been best from him and us.
    Killian Hayes is who I am thinking of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    Killian Hayes is who I am thinking of.
    Yeah that one would have been best for both of us... We had as good of a shot as anyone to land him, but it didn't work out so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    It actually might be the most important decision in his life. If he goes somewhere that messes with his development it could cost him millions of dollars. Plenty of guys from 10-15 never sniff the league outside of summer league. And honestly going to Florida could be better for him than here on terms of making the league. One of my fears is that just because we can get our name associated with some of these top Americans guys we lose focus on recruiting where we have an advantage. For example if that guard from France a few years ago had worked out, it probably would have been best from him and us.
    Very good point and I think it almost certainly is the most important decision of his life thus far. It certainly felt that way when I chose GU as a student alone, but the added pressure of how it could impact his dream of being a NBA player (or NFL player) is immense. As a Zag fan, of course I would have loved for him to pick us and commit right away and I think he will (in Caldwell I trust!), but it would be irrational to not seriously explore other options to make sure GU is the best one for him. Unfortunately for us, Suggs has more options than even the typical Zag recruit since he may be able to get a good pro-deal right away and also is a great football player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    It actually might be the most important decision in his life. If he goes somewhere that messes with his development it could cost him millions of dollars. Plenty of guys from 10-15 never sniff the league outside of summer league. And honestly going to Florida could be better for him than here on terms of making the league. One of my fears is that just because we can get our name associated with some of these top Americans guys we lose focus on recruiting where we have an advantage. For example if that guard from France a few years ago had worked out, it probably would have been best from him and us.
    Thank you for this post. Being a loyal Zag fan shouldn’t mean that we need to hold the opinion that Gonzaga is the best choice for every recruit. No programs are are one-size-fits-all.
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    Jalen wins. USA basketball, Minnehaha basketball and even Minnehaha football. His leadership and outrageous athletic skill always finds a way to win.

    Gonzaga offers Jalen a better opportunity to display that leadership than playing overseas. Imagine the respect he would enter the NBA with if he led Gonzaga to the championship. Not only would he have more fun, he would have a head start on leading a team as opposed to playing a role and trying to fit in with the unfamiliarity of playing overseas.

    I hope he becomes a Zag. He would be my favorite Zag of all time. If he does, I think there's a very good chance he becomes the legend that leads us to our first national championship and becomes a whole lot of Zag fans favorite Zag of all time.

    He's worth the wait, and the hype, and the hope.

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    Hampton in NZ....

    RJ Hampton has vowed to keep standing up for himself despite being ejected in the New Zealand Breakers' third successive NBL defeat.
    The American NBA draft prospect took exception to some close checking from South East Melbourne guard Ben Madgen in the early stages of Saturday's 103-78 loss to the Phoenix at Melbourne Arena.
    The pair exchanged words as Magden wound up on the floor after being fouled, while Hampton also clashed with John Roberson as the incident escalated.
    The 18-year-old point guard picked up a technical foul and an unsportsmanlike foul for his part in the melee, seeing him disqualified from the match with barely four minutes ticked off the clock.
    Without Hampton and injured backup guard Jarrad Weeks, the Breakers eventually lost their way as the Phoenix dominated the second half 61-30 to cruise to victory.
    "Madgen, I think he kinda gave me a little shoulder in my back on a screen," Hampton said following the loss.
    "I thought it was kinda dirty so I came back, gave him a little shove, you can call it a flop if you want to or not, but he fell.
    "John Roberson came, he pushed me, kinda gave it the same thing Madgen did and then I think he said something to me that I didn't like, so I went for him and that was the end of that."
    While disappointed to leave the Breakers short at the guard position, Hampton indicated he would continue to stay aggressive in the face of close attention from the opposition.

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    WRT Hampton, they've seemed to find the weakness in his game to exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyzag12 View Post
    It actually might be the most important decision in his life. If he goes somewhere that messes with his development it could cost him millions of dollars. Plenty of guys from 10-15 never sniff the league outside of summer league. And honestly going to Florida could be better for him than here on terms of making the league. One of my fears is that just because we can get our name associated with some of these top Americans guys we lose focus on recruiting where we have an advantage. For example if that guard from France a few years ago had worked out, it probably would have been best from him and us.
    Agree with everything but the Florida comment. Can you imagine him making plays with Watson and Timme (and others) next year assuming they themselves are not already in the NBA? I get the east coast exposer thing, but a Final Four run is so much bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousZ View Post
    Agree with everything but the Florida comment. Can you imagine him making plays with Watson and Timme (and others) next year assuming they themselves are not already in the NBA? I get the east coast exposer thing, but a Final Four run is so much bigger.
    I would think Florida might be able to make a final four run next year too, I mean they are ranked ahead of GU now and will probably be pretty good next year. My question is if hes one and done in basketball why go to Florida to play football also. Chances are he won't see the field as a freshman quarterback in the SEC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdmiller7 View Post
    I would think Florida might be able to make a final four run next year too, I mean they are ranked ahead of GU now and will probably be pretty good next year. My question is if hes one and done in basketball why go to Florida to play football also. Chances are he won't see the field as a freshman quarterback in the SEC.
    It will be hard for any freshman to win a starting qb job at most competitive high major schools. It happens but isn't the norm, even for the top ranked qb prospects which suggs is not

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdmiller7 View Post
    I would think Florida might be able to make a final four run next year too, I mean they are ranked ahead of GU now and will probably be pretty good next year. My question is if hes one and done in basketball why go to Florida to play football also. Chances are he won't see the field as a freshman quarterback in the SEC.
    Also, going to college at Florida is pretty cool, if only for just a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankMyZAG View Post
    It will be hard for any freshman to win a starting qb job at most competitive high major schools. It happens but isn't the norm, even for the top ranked qb prospects which suggs is not
    Quote Originally Posted by zagfan08 View Post
    Also, going to college at Florida is pretty cool, if only for just a year.
    BUT...going to Florida to sit on the bench for your one year isn't so cool.
    Hoping you have a sense of humor too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    BUT...going to Florida to sit on the bench for your one year isn't so cool.
    Yeah, if he really is serious about considering playing overseas so he can make some money this upcoming year (because the thought of waiting just one more year to make REAL money in the NBA is just too tough to take), then no....he is not realistically considering playing three years of college football (required) before he could go to the NBA or NFL. So no, Florida, unless it is just for basketball, is not really being considered.

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    I attended 3 of his SMB football games this season.

    He is a terrific athlete, with an extraordinary presence on the field, makes winning plays when needed, especially with his feet. Can throw a solid deep ball, although it sails sideways instead of downward spiral, and has good zip on short to intermediate throws.

    I see upside but Jalen isnt an elite prospect in football. I'd say a very good, strong, confident, tall athlete making highlight reel plays versus inferior competition.

    His HS, combined with 2 other HS's play in the 3rd ranked division in MN. Mostly comprised of small towns and private/charter schools, who specialize in bball and hockey, not football so much.

    Suggs team is the best in their respective division, and have won their championship for past couple years, which Jalen has played a major part in.

    he might be a better long term defensive prospect (elite safety) than QB.

    He shows promising upside at QB but relies heavily on being the better athlete than the competition. Jalen likely only player to receive serious D1 interest in his entire division. There is another kid on his team with offers.

    His long term sport is basketball. He is an elite prospect in the making, and still has room to improve in this sport as well, namely pick n roll play, and shooting, yet upside is clearly through the roof. Proven, and has shown elite skills vs top tier competition, has all the attributes, etc

    He is likely a couple seasons away to start at QB, as he faces a significant jump in competition, and still hasn't shown he can make sll the throws and/or simply out run or run around the opponents.

    He could likely start as a WR or Free Safety right away, but I see a 3 star type QB who still needs development at the position.

    Meanwhile, he is a 5 star basketball player who is more than likely a 1 and done talent, maybe 2 year at most.

    Football requires 3 years before he can even be drafted, not to mention chance of injury, especially as a freshman. Rate of injury much higher for younger players than upperclassmen in college FB.

    I love that he is passionate about both sports and being considered in both sports at the next level, yet no one has promised him a spot at QB, but rather as a gifted athlete they can mold into whatever suits them best. I know Iowa St was looking at him for multiple positions given that a lot of these QB prospects are more polished at that particular position.

    Its great he wants to play them but it's an unbelievable risky endeavor, not just from an injury standpoint yet also developmental standpoint.

    Similar to achieving work life balance, something has got to give, he will have to comprise one for the other on some level, if he wants to be truly elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goshzagit View Post
    I attended 3 of his SMB football games this season.

    He is a terrific athlete, with an extraordinary presence on the field, makes winning plays when needed, especially with his feet. Can throw a solid deep ball, although it sails sideways instead of downward spiral, and has good zip on short to intermediate throws.

    I see upside but Jalen isnt an elite prospect in football. I'd say a very good, strong, confident, tall athlete making highlight reel plays versus inferior competition.

    His HS, combined with 2 other HS's play in the 3rd ranked division in MN. Mostly comprised of small towns and private/charter schools, who specialize in bball and hockey, not football so much.

    Suggs team is the best in their respective division, and have won their championship for past couple years, which Jalen has played a major part in.

    he might be a better long term defensive prospect (elite safety) than QB.

    He shows promising upside at QB but relies heavily on being the better athlete than the competition. Jalen likely only player to receive serious D1 interest in his entire division. There is another kid on his team with offers.

    His long term sport is basketball. He is an elite prospect in the making, and still has room to improve in this sport as well, namely pick n roll play, and shooting, yet upside is clearly through the roof. Proven, and has shown elite skills vs top tier competition, has all the attributes, etc

    He is likely a couple seasons away to start at QB, as he faces a significant jump in competition, and still hasn't shown he can make sll the throws and/or simply out run or run around the opponents.

    He could likely start as a WR or Free Safety right away, but I see a 3 star type QB who still needs development at the position.

    Meanwhile, he is a 5 star basketball player who is more than likely a 1 and done talent, maybe 2 year at most.

    Football requires 3 years before he can even be drafted, not to mention chance of injury, especially as a freshman. Rate of injury much higher for younger players than upperclassmen in college FB.

    I love that he is passionate about both sports and being considered in both sports at the next level, yet no one has promised him a spot at QB, but rather as a gifted athlete they can mold into whatever suits them best. I know Iowa St was looking at him for multiple positions given that a lot of these QB prospects are more polished at that particular position.

    Its great he wants to play them but it's an unbelievable risky endeavor, not just from an injury standpoint yet also developmental standpoint.

    Similar to achieving work life balance, something has got to give, he will have to comprise one for the other on some level, if he wants to be truly elite.
    An extremely enlightening/insightful post...thanks for sharing!!!

    There are hundreds of very good HS QB's but a limited number of elite QB's than can, if given the opportunity, play QB at P5 schools...GREAT comparison!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogozags View Post
    An extremely enlightening/insightful post...thanks for sharing!!!

    There are hundreds of very good HS QB's but a limited number of elite QB's than can, if given the opportunity, play QB at P5 schools...GREAT comparison!!!
    He is a top 20 QB on all the recruiting sites, so fairly elite. That being said to play as a freshman in football is rare, especially at QB, and he would have to stay a minimum of 3 years in college. I just dont see how football can even be a realistic option unless that is truelly his love. If hes looking to make money and have the best career, basketball is the only choice.

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    No doubt being a top 20 QB nationally is extremely impressive, but in terms of the ultimate goal (getting an NFL gig) there's maybe 10-12 QBs that get drafted each year so even being ranked that high out of high school is no guarantee. Completely agree with all of your other points, basketball seems like a no brainer path for Suggs to pursue. (Logically speaking, who knows how weight he puts on football because he loves the sport)

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