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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieZag View Post
    IF IF IF he gets to GU without a commit to U of A, it would be irresponsible for the coaches to NOT say to him: "Look, you've got ONE year, do you want to roll the dice on a program that didn't even make the tourney last year AND has all the sht up in the air, or do you want to come to a program that is as close to a sure-thing as you can get?"

    I have to believe that it would at least make him pause.
    I don't think that is the way this staff recruits to be honest. I think they will present the program and university as they are and how he would fit in the program. Highlighting the plan and positives and not focus on other schools and what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caldwellzag View Post
    I do know what it looks like with Jenkins, but from all I am told is he will be arguing to be immediately eligible and it sounds like a good shot of it happening. We are recruiting him as if he would be eligible next year.
    If Jenkins comes for 2 years, that really makes 2020 a crowded schollie chart, with Strawther and hopefully Suggs and Maxwell, with only 1 open slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    If Jenkins comes for 2 years, that really makes 2020 a crowded schollie chart, with Strawther and hopefully Suggs and Maxwell, with only 1 open slot.
    This team needs a PG and SG badly if we are to make the tourney next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballzag View Post
    This team needs a PG and SG badly if we are to make the tourney next year.
    Ravet
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    Petrusev

    Young but still a tournament team imo. This unit would still be able to score. Defense well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cggonzaga View Post
    Ravet
    Kispert
    Watson
    Timme
    Petrusev

    Young but still a tournament team imo. This unit would still be able to score. Defense well....
    No way that is a tournament team in ***2019***. Three freshman, including a PG who is expected to run Few's offense plus a sophomore that saw his playing time steadily approach zero as the season went on? This team would be hard pressed to stay in the top-3 of the WCC next year. This isn't Duke or Kentucky and the kids coming in, as good as they are, aren't 5-star, one-and-done burger boys.

    Given a year to marinate, plus some actual guard studs coming in 2020, and now you have a tournament team.


    ONE ADDITIONAL NOTE - If Norvell actually leaves, I'd bet that Harris reclassifies to 2019 as Dominick & his dad seem more than willing to go that route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cggonzaga View Post
    Ravet
    Kispert
    Watson
    Timme
    Petrusev

    Young but still a tournament team imo. This unit would still be able to score. Defense well....
    That lineup would get roasted. Kispert is not a 2, Ravet shouldn’t start, and there is no one who can reliably back those two up.

    GU would have to win the auto bid given the tough games in the early part of the schedule (when the freshman bigs are still getting adjusted). As we saw this last year, the auto bid is no guarantee, even when GU is significantly better than its peers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    That lineup would get roasted. Kispert is not a 2, Ravet shouldn’t start, and there is no one who can reliably back those two up.

    GU would have to win the auto bid given the tough games in the early part of the schedule (when the freshman bigs are still getting adjusted). As we saw this last year, the auto bid is no guarantee, even when GU is significantly better than its peers.
    I’m not sure about any of this, but I will welcome some new faces to the lineup before I make a decision. Grad transfer or two seems likely at this point with plenty of playing time. Well see
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    Quote Originally Posted by strikenowhere View Post
    No way that is a tournament team in ***2019***. Three freshman, including a PG who is expected to run Few's offense plus a sophomore that saw his playing time steadily approach zero as the season went on? This team would be hard pressed to stay in the top-3 of the WCC next year. This isn't Duke or Kentucky and the kids coming in, as good as they are, aren't 5-star, one-and-done burger boys.

    Given a year to marinate, plus some actual guard studs coming in 2020, and now you have a tournament team.


    ONE ADDITIONAL NOTE - If Norvell actually leaves, I'd bet that Harris reclassifies to 2019 as Dominick & his dad seem more than willing to go that route.
    I’d be more than happy to put a wager on this. Pretty clear most here don’t understand just how good Watson, Timme and Ravet, to an extent, are. I would put Watson and Timme up against any freshmen we’ve had. Kispert takes a giant step forward next season, mark my words!

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    Certainly don't know what will transpire between now & May 29. But if I am a grad transfer, this team isn't looking anywhere near as strong as 2 weeks ago. I might start looking elsewhere.
    This post is for March Madness seeding purposes only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    Certainly don't know what will transpire between now & May 29. But if I am a grad transfer, this team isn't looking anywhere near as strong as 2 weeks ago. I might start looking elsewhere.
    Circular reasoning, but if we land a quality pg and sg transfer, the team could be good.

    Starter minutes on a tournament team should be attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cggonzaga View Post
    I’d be more than happy to put a wager on this. Pretty clear most here don’t understand just how good Watson, Timme and Ravet, to an extent, are. I would put Watson and Timme up against any freshmen we’ve had. Kispert takes a giant step forward next season, mark my words!
    Agreed. We are still going to need an experienced guard. I think one if not both of our Euros surprise as well.

    Twonster and Timme are going to be a great tandum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    Circular reasoning, but if we land a quality pg and sg transfer, the team could be good.

    Starter minutes on a tournament team should be attractive.
    Don't see it that way Observer. As it stands NOW, you have Kispert coming back. Sorry, but IMO even adding a good group of Freshman, that's not a Tournament team.

    I expect one or 2 (or 3) of the "declarers" to come back but as I originally stated, won't know until May 29.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagsObserver View Post
    That lineup would get roasted. Kispert is not a 2, Ravet shouldn’t start, and there is no one who can reliably back those two up.

    GU would have to win the auto bid given the tough games in the early part of the schedule (when the freshman bigs are still getting adjusted). As we saw this last year, the auto bid is no guarantee, even when GU is significantly better than its peers.
    I'm with cg on this one. Nothing says you have to play a conventional 1-2-3-4-5 lineup. Oregon went on their run through the Pac tourney and to the sweet 16 and playing the natl champs to the wire when they went to a lineup of Pritchard and four 6'9 guys.

    Ravet will be as good offensively as freshman Pangos imo; just a matter of how much playing time he gets. That lineup is all 4 star talent, at minimum. Nobody else in the WCC comes close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cggonzaga View Post
    I’d be more than happy to put a wager on this. Pretty clear most here don’t understand just how good Watson, Timme and Ravet, to an extent, are. I would put Watson and Timme up against any freshmen we’ve had. Kispert takes a giant step forward next season, mark my words!
    The Zags will be a completely different team in March than they will be in December. So many new players, veterans like Corey assuming new leadership roles, etc.

    Our moderators are going to have a tough job next season, to keep the Board from melting down, particularly after some of the losses sure to come our way.

    Next season's journey will need to be driven in an auto with 4 wheel drive: potholes aplenty during the twists and turns we're likely to encounter. The road that comes to mind for me is the Moki Dugway in Utah...lol. I've driven it a couple of times, it's a white knuckler! lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
    The Zags will be a completely different team in March than they will be in December. So many new players, veterans like Corey assuming new leadership roles, etc.

    Our moderators are going to have a tough job next season, to keep the Board from melting down, particularly after some of the losses sure to come our way.

    Next season's journey will need to be driven in an auto with 4 wheel drive: potholes aplenty during the twists and turns we're likely to encounter. The road that comes to mind for me is the Moki Dugway in Utah...lol. I've driven it a couple of times, it's a white knuckler! lol

    Agreed - it is bound to happen that the team comes back down to earth a bit. 2019 is going to be rough simply due to the number of freshmen coming in, but by the time '20 & especially '21 rolls around the team is going to be flat out nasty and probably a top 5 team again (assuming everyone important sticks around AND they land Suggs).

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    I am hoping that 19-20 will be the lead in to another great run in 20-21 and on.

    I see Zakharov and Ballo as the #5's Timme and Petrusev as #4's, Kispert, Watson and Martynas as the 2-3's with Ravet, Foster and Ayayi at the PG position.

    The front court, 3-5 would be formidable, the back court to be determined.

    Ravet has done well in HS. We will see just how well that translates.

    Foster looked OK at times last year, and with the year in the system could be an OK back-up. He needs to be able to pass well and accurately and only shoot enough to keep the D honest.
    Ayayi is kind of a wild card. If he can play like he did in his GOOD games in the U18, he will be effective. His bad games, not so much.

    Of course, all that changes of Tillie and/or Norvell come back, if Petrusev leaves and if we get a grad transfer in (or two).

    It could be a rocky start, but it also could be a great finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    I am hoping that 19-20 will be the lead in to another great run in 20-21 and on.

    I see Zakharov and Ballo as the #5's Tillie and Petrusev as #4's, Kispert, Harris and Martynas as the 2-3's with Ravet, Foster and Ayayi at the PG position.

    The front court, 3-5 would be formidable, the back court to be determined.

    Ravet has done well in HS. We will see just how well that translates.

    Foster looked OK at times last year, and with the year in the system could be an OK back-up. He needs to be able to pass well and accurately and only shoot enough to keep the D honest.
    Ayayi is kind of a wild card. If he can play like he did in his GOOD games in the U18, he will be effective. His bad games, not so much.

    Of course, all that changes of Tillie and/or Norvell come back, if Petrusev leaves and if we get a grad transfer in (or two).

    It could be a rocky start, but it also could be a great finish.
    You are missing two of our top recruits in Timme and Watson

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    Quote Originally Posted by caldwellzag View Post
    You are missing two of our top recruits in Timme and Watson
    yeah, like maybe our top 2 recruits. Those two are going to surprise a lot of people.

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    So we do think Tillie comes back? Or he going to Europe?
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    Tillie will be drafted if he stays in the draft, mark my words. He is too good of shooter at his size to not be drafted, although it would be the 2nd round due to injury concerns. If healthy, I honestly think the Tillie's game plays better in the NBA than Clarke's will based on the NBA style of play. I'm not saying that Tillie is going to stay in the draft, I'm just saying that there is too much assumption on here about his future being in Europe...IMO

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    Hazzard to U of A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caldwellzag View Post
    You are missing two of our top recruits in Timme and Watson
    You are right. I meant Timme instead of Tillie, And Watson at the 2-3 position, sliding to the 4 on occasion. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caldwellzag View Post
    Hazzard to U of A.
    Welp, kinda figured, sigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    Welp, kinda figured, sigh

    Actually, you might better state thet "Not a welp, kinda figured, sigh."
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    Nothing against the guy but that is a terrible decision. Where are his minutes coming with Nico and Josh coming in? Who knows if Brandon will be ready to go by next season, but still not a lot of minutes on maybe a sweet sixteen team?

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