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  • Back to Back to Back to Back Sweet 16 and beyond

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  • Winning an NCAA tournament game in each of the past 10 seasons

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  • 20 straight years of dancing

    27 27.27%
  • Half of the Top 5 Academic All Americans/Basketball All Americans are Zags

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    Default Which is most impressive ???

    The Zags are in the middle of a few awesome streaks/achievements. Which do you find the most impressive?

    1. The entire list of NCAA D1 schools (out of 351) who have made it to the Sweet 16 and beyond the past 4 seasons: Gonzaga

    2. The entire list of NCAA D1 schools (out of 351) who have one at least one game in the dance the past 10 seasons: Kansas, Gonzaga

    3. The entire list of NCAA D1 schools (out of 351) who have made it to the dance the past 20 seasons: Duke, Kansas, Michigan State Gonzaga

    4. Over the past 20 years, a grand total of 6 players have achieved the "Bill Walton Double/Double" (Top 5 Academic All American and Top 5 All American in the same season). Walton did it three times. Here is the list: Shane Battier - Duke (2001) Dan Dickau - Gonzaga (2002) Emeka Okafor - UConn (2004) D.J. Augustine - Texas (2008) Kelly Olynyk - Gonzaga (2013) Nigel Williams-Goss - Gonzaga (2017) Thus .... half of these guys are Zags.

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    Those are really tough choices. It is a little like saying "pick your favorite child", I went with the double AA's. Do you feed this stuff to the announcers before each game? You are like our very own SID on this site, thanks for that.
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    I "could" have change the verbiage to "which of these are you most 'proud' of"?

    I went with the All Americans as well.

    Interesting side note .... in their history Gonzaga Basketball has had a total of 16 Academic All Americans (1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team) including one Academic All American of the year (Jeff Brown).

    OTOH, the University of Washington has had a Grand Total of 1 (one). That was Nigel Williams-Goss when he made 3rd team as a soph. 16 to 1. Kinda like our recent winning record against the Huskies.

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    Keep pumping out those double AAs and those other achievements will follow

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    ..as a basketball team I believe the 4 straight S16 and beyond is very impressive...as a complete program the AA achievements are equally as impressive...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoZags View Post
    The Zags are in the middle of a few awesome streaks/achievements. Which do you find the most impressive?

    1. The entire list of NCAA D1 schools (out of 351) who have made it to the Sweet 16 and beyond the past 4 seasons: Gonzaga

    2. The entire list of NCAA D1 schools (out of 351) who have one at least one game in the dance the past 10 seasons: Kansas, Gonzaga

    3. The entire list of NCAA D1 schools (out of 351) who have made it to the dance the past 20 seasons: Duke, Kansas, Michigan State Gonzaga

    4. Over the past 20 years, a grand total of 6 players have achieved the "Bill Walton Double/Double" (Top 5 Academic All American and Top 5 All American in the same season). Walton did it three times. Here is the list: Shane Battier - Duke (2001) Dan Dickau - Gonzaga (2002) Emeka Okafor - UConn (2004) D.J. Augustine - Texas (2008) Kelly Olynyk - Gonzaga (2013) Nigel Williams-Goss - Gonzaga (2017) Thus .... half of these guys are Zags.
    Nice GZ....I choose the invisible number 5. All of the above...

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    Care 0% about the Academic AA's. The 4 Sweet 16's is a testament to the rise of this program, and it bolsters the 20-year appearance streak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Crazy View Post
    Care 0% about the Academic AA's. The 4 Sweet 16's is a testament to the rise of this program, and it bolsters the 20-year appearance streak.
    You care 0% about academics? That seems very un-coach-like.

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    I care about all of them, but the Academic AAs with straight AAs statistic is truly special/differentiating...unless and until they start paying the kids, colleges (and fans) should take the "student athlete" concept seriously.

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    Q: How many Bill Walton Double Doubles does the MWC have?

    A: No less than they did before.


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    When a student athlete succeeds and receives awards for their studies, that should take precedents over all else. One admirable thing about GU is not just putting together a basketball team, volleyball team, baseball team or cross-country team,, but giving young student athletes the necessary tools to get a great education and be successful in life after sports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoZags View Post
    I "could" have change the verbiage to "which of these are you most 'proud' of"?

    I went with the All Americans as well.

    Interesting side note .... in their history Gonzaga Basketball has had a total of 16 Academic All Americans (1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team) including one Academic All American of the year (Jeff Brown).

    OTOH, the University of Washington has had a Grand Total of 1 (one). That was Nigel Williams-Goss when he made 3rd team as a soph. 16 to 1. Kinda like our recent winning record against the Huskies.
    We’ve had three impressive Academic All-Americans transfer in from UW. Jeff Brown and Dan Dickau also selected the GU upgrade after loitering in Seattle for a season or two.
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    I think the most impressive achievement of all is the athletic department’s collective graduation rate, which is currently tied for best in the nation.

    https://www.gonzaga.edu/news-events/...n-success-rate
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    Academic excellence by our student athletes is a shared cultural value across the athletics department and a tremendous amount of resources ($money) is dedicated towards that excellence.

    Frankly, I think it has become much more important part of the culture since I've been there. Academic excellence at Gonzaga in general has increased as the enrollment demand has increased. The academic resumes of prospective students across the board are starting to rival top private schools across the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    Academic excellence by our student athletes is a shared cultural value across the athletics department and a tremendous amount of resources ($money) is dedicated towards that excellence.

    Frankly, I think it has become much more important part of the culture since I've been there. Academic excellence at Gonzaga in general has increased as the enrollment demand has increased. The academic resumes of prospective students across the board are starting to rival top private schools across the west.
    Most college basketball players don’t go pro so most players are in school primarily for academics. I picked #4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Crazy View Post
    Care 0% about the Academic AA's.
    This puts you at odds with the University President, the Athletic Director, the coaching staff, the athletic department staff, the board of trustees, major donors, and most Zags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Centre Mad Man View Post
    I think the most impressive achievement of all is the athletic department’s collective graduation rate, which is currently tied for best in the nation.

    https://www.gonzaga.edu/news-events/...n-success-rate
    Outstanding!! Thanks for the article, I was looking for that.

    The NCAA Graduation Success Rate tracks degree completion for student-athletes, even those who transfer. Some data from the NCAA in terms of Graduation Success Rates (GSR) (overall - all sports) for Western Conferences:


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    Top in the West (Overall GSR):
    School: Overall GSR
    1) Gonzaga: 99
    2t) Portland: 97
    2t) Stanford: 97
    4) Seattle: 95
    5) LMU: 92
    6t) Saint Mary’s: 91
    6t) Santa Clara: 91
    6t) Utah State: 91
    9t) San Diego: 90
    9t) Utah: 90

    Top in the West (Men’s Basketball GSR):
    School: Men’s Basketball GSR
    1t) Gonzaga: 100
    1t) Santa Clara: 100
    1t) Northern Arizona: 100
    1t) Stanford: 100
    1t) Arizona: 100
    1t) Utah: 100
    7) Seattle: 95
    8t) Portland: 93
    8t) Colorado State: 93
    8t) Arizona State: 93


    By Conference:
    West Coast Conference:
    School: Overall GSR, Basketball GSR
    - Gonzaga: 99, 100
    - Portland: 97, 93
    - LMU: 92, 77
    - Santa Clara: 91, 100
    - Saint Mary’s: 91, 81
    - San Diego: 90, 64
    - Pacific: 89, 89
    - Pepperdine: 89, 77
    - San Francisco: 87, 45
    - BYU: 78, 67

    Mountain West Conference:
    - Utah State: 91, 78
    - Air Force: 88, 79
    - Boise State: 87, 86
    - Colorado State: 84, 93
    - Wyoming: 82, 71
    - Nevada: 81, 73
    - Fresno State: 81, 73
    - New Mexico: 80, 85
    - San Jose State: 80, 33
    - San Diego State: 79, 50
    - UNLV: 76, 75

    Pac-12 Conference:
    - Stanford: 97, 100
    - Utah: 90, 100
    - Colorado: 88, 85
    - Arizona State: 87, 93
    - Washington: 86, 92
    - USC: 86, 50
    - UCLA: 86, 44
    - Arizona: 84, 100
    - Cal: 81, 50
    - Oregon: 81, 38
    - Washington State: 80, 59
    - Oregon State: 78, 67

    Western Athletic Conference:
    - Seattle: 95, 95
    - Missouri - Kansas City: 88, 76
    - Texas - Rio Grande Valley: 78, 77
    - Grand Canyon University: 78, 71
    - Cal State - Bakersfield: 75, 87
    - New Mexico State: 75, 60
    - Utah Valley: 74, 67
    - Chicago State: 73, 59

    Big West Conference:
    - UC - Irvine: 88, 83
    - UC - Davis: 87, 69
    - Long Beach State: 86, 86
    - Hawaii: 85, 64
    - UC - Santa Barbara: 83, 56
    - Cal Poly - San Luis Obispo: 80, 75
    - Cal State - Northridge: 79, 71
    - UC - Riverside: 78, 59
    - Cal State - Fullerton: 76, 75

    Big Sky Conference:
    - Northern Colorado: 86, 73
    - Northern Arizona: 85, 100
    - North Dakota: 83, 79
    - Montana State: 83, 57
    - Idaho State: 81, 86
    - Montana: 80, 82
    - Southern Utah: 80, 70
    - Eastern Washington: 78, 75
    - Weber State: 77, 91
    - Sacramento State: 77, 86
    - Idaho: 75, 78
    - Portland State: 74, 81
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    Given the conference, the 20 years dancing is least impressive. The academic all Americans belongs in its own category as Spy would concede. The 10 opening wins is nice but again GU generally gets high seeds due in part to the weak conference. The 3 straight S16s is dynamite. Isn’t it 4 straight? The KW layup to Dook, the dream season w the Josh floater, the Collins fiasco and this year? No? That’s E8, S16 to Cuse, THE NC and to the FSU thugs?

    Ed: Scratch all that. I counted one too few “backs.” Three straight E8s would have been nice, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    You care 0% about academics? That seems very un-coach-like.
    He just plays one on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rennis View Post
    Q: How many Bill Walton Double Doubles does the MWC have?

    A: No less than they did before.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Crazy View Post
    Care 0% about the Academic AA's. The 4 Sweet 16's is a testament to the rise of this program, and it bolsters the 20-year appearance streak.
    Huh??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwester View Post
    This puts you at odds with the University President, the Athletic Director, the coaching staff, the athletic department staff, the board of trustees, major donors, and most Zags.
    It's also the attitude of big money boosters at major universities, that ends up in sanctions. Thankfully, our administration doesn't abide.

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    The fact that you can do all the team has done w/ the academic accolades (including graduation rate) is phenomenal, so it is hard to hear of one without thinking of the other.

    Jazz rightly points to it being easier bc of the conference to get the 20 straight, that's just truth. But, the easier conference in basketball wasn't as easy a conference w/ respect to academics, and we've all seen that teams can essentially hire mercenaries that have no interest in going to class, never mind graduating. I also am not sure I am buying that we got higher seeds bc of the easier conference, not sure about that over the course of the last 10 years. It's worth looking at, just not sure.

    I always thought the 10 straight first game wins was the most impressive, and appreciate it even more after this year. But, 4 straight Sweet Sixteens or better, while graduating our players with the same core all of us took, that has likely displaced the 10 year thing.

    Great thread, GZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieZag View Post
    The fact that you can do all the team has done w/ the academic accolades (including graduation rate) is phenomenal, so it is hard to hear of one without thinking of the other.

    Jazz rightly points to it being easier bc of the conference to get the 20 straight, that's just truth. But, the easier conference in basketball wasn't as easy a conference w/ respect to academics, and we've all seen that teams can essentially hire mercenaries that have no interest in going to class, never mind graduating. I also am not sure I am buying that we got higher seeds bc of the easier conference, not sure about that over the course of the last 10 years. It's worth looking at, just not sure.

    I always thought the 10 straight first game wins was the most impressive, and appreciate it even more after this year. But, 4 straight Sweet Sixteens or better, while graduating our players with the same core all of us took, that has likely displaced the 10 year thing.

    Great thread, GZ.
    So jazz and Dixie if it is so easy because of a league affiliation why has no other team in the many many lesser leagues done it yet or even say 6 in row?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopaholic View Post
    So jazz and Dixie if it is so easy because of a league affiliation why has no other team in the many many lesser leagues done it yet or even say 6 in row?
    It's not easy, even in lesser leagues. People don't like admitting this, but lesser leagues also come with lesser econsystem's with regard to the talent of personnel, players, and the quality of economics. And when you do find the diamonds in the rough, they tend to move upward more and more these days. Inconsistency is far more likely when the variables are that shaky. Few and Co. have been able to battle against that current and find success where no other program in their position has.

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