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    These are terrific changes for the WCC, and precisely what Coach Few wanted going forward.

    Impressive, and classy move by the WCC to retain their "cash cow".

    No coincidence the timing of it all.

    TV deals are still a concern in this conference, yet putting the hammer down on WCC scheduling, rewarding the top seeds again, & better conference scheduling overall.

    More consistent and more wiggle room.

    This is an interesting series and saga of events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post
    Next step......NCAA tourney revenue payout restructuring?
    That already happened last fall per the press release in this thread and PCZ_Frites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raise the zag View Post
    TV deals are still a concern in this conference, yet putting the hammer down on WCC scheduling, rewarding the top seeds again, & better conference scheduling overall.
    With fewer games in the conference schedule and some smart scheduling, we can have more marketable games for ESPN. I think this announcement can help a lot in retaining ESPN as a partner of the WCC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsmoove View Post
    Craig Thompson is about to lay the boom. Zags are going to get their own ESPN deal, at least 50% of tourney shares, and Lifetime byes against San Jose State, LOL!
    You bet. And that's just the start of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raise the zag View Post
    These are terrific changes for the WCC, and precisely what Coach Few wanted going forward.

    Impressive, and classy move by the WCC to retain their "cash cow".

    No coincidence the timing of it all.

    TV deals are still a concern in this conference, yet putting the hammer down on WCC scheduling, rewarding the top seeds again, & better conference scheduling overall.

    More consistent and more wiggle room.

    This is an interesting series and saga of events.
    If the WCC is willing to let us have an ESPN deal on the side, then i am good with this change. I also think adding Grand Canyon and Denver might be a good thing for the conference as well.

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    Love to know what Mr ESPN is whispering

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    I can see ESPN inking a Zag deal on the side and saving a few bucks while retaining the rights to the top team on the West coast.

    I can also see Mr. ESPN whispering to MWC -- "no deal unless you have the Zags on board".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdawg View Post
    I can see ESPN inking a Zag deal on the side and saving a few bucks while retaining the rights to the top team on the West coast.

    I can also see Mr. ESPN whispering to MWC -- "no deal unless you have the Zags on board".
    Precisely.

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    This is a perfect example of reactive vs proactive leadership. Few has been begging for these changes for years, and only now, when it looks like we're adios, do the WCC higher ups get off of their respective butts and do something. Had they done this several years ago, we may not even be hearing about our flirtation with the MWC. The people that run the WCC are the Cleveland Browns and Sacramento Kings of mens college basketball.

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    It is still unclear to me......is the WCC going to adopt a thing where Gonzaga (and other teams) only play one game per week two times during league play, or will the league schedule start later next season??

    The problem is that due to the expansion of league games in the major conferences, it is getting more and more difficult to schedule a home and home with a Texas or Michigan during league play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    This is a perfect example of reactive vs proactive leadership. Few has been begging for these changes for years, and only now, when it looks like we're adios, do the WCC higher ups get off of their respective butts and do something. Had they done this several years ago, we may not even be hearing about our flirtation with the MWC. The people that run the WCC are the Cleveland Browns and Sacramento Kings of mens college basketball.
    BAM......

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    This is a perfect example of reactive vs proactive leadership. Few has been begging for these changes for years, and only now, when it looks like we're adios, do the WCC higher ups get off of their respective butts and do something. Had they done this several years ago, we may not even be hearing about our flirtation with the MWC. The people that run the WCC are the Cleveland Browns and Sacramento Kings of mens college basketball.
    I won't defend the WCC to much on this one, because honestly the league has done a lot of innovative things over the years to the benefit of Gonzaga. They went very early on in our run with a revamped tournament schedule that only required Gonzaga to play 2 games for a bunch of years. They went to a rotational schedule for the conference tournament at Gonzaga's behest and then moved it to Vegas. The WCC has made some imperfect moves as well, but by and large they haven't been bad.

    The main problem with the WCC is not the conference itself. Its the schools within the conference not putting an emphasis on athletics.

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    From MWC board...interesting points

    The rules basically mean every single WCC team (other than Gonzaga, BYU, and maybe Saint Mary's) will have two D-2 teams on the home sch.

    That is the ONLY way they can have more "home" OOC games than road games.
    How many leagues with give WCC teams 1:1 deals? Big West, Big Sky... I mean some MW schools will give some WCC 1:1 deals. But to get any Pac-12 team it will take a 1:2 (one home two road). And with this new rule you can really only have a couple of those deals going at the same time (ie otherwise you will have more road OOC than home OOC).

    I mean it does limited the 1:0 "money" games so the WCC as a whole should have a slightly better record and slightly better RPIs (ie more useful to go .500 vs Big West schools that winning 1 out of 20 road games vs power 5 schools).

    And YES this is a concession to Gonzaga but at the same time it could just be a "smart" play on the WCC's part to try to have slightly better RPI's/seeds for their annual one bid team. Cause it DOES hurt the conference if everyone starts scheduling like LBSU (they play 4-5 road games vs top 20 teams every year and always go winless with the loan expectation to beating a ranked Pit team like 6 years ago. However that pit team ended the year with like ten wins).

    The WCC could simply be trying to assure they don't fall into "Big West" conference RPI territory when Gonzaga leaves.

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    Other possible changes.........

    @InsideTheKennel
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    "Gonzaga gets to approve Saint Mary's nonconference schedule for next 5 years"

    "Randy Bennett must shake hands for 3 seconds at the end of games"

    Just 2 things I'd like included in this WCC "Enhancement Plan".

    What do you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    This is a perfect example of reactive vs proactive leadership. Few has been begging for these changes for years, and only now, when it looks like we're adios, do the WCC higher ups get off of their respective butts and do something. Had they done this several years ago, we may not even be hearing about our flirtation with the MWC. The people that run the WCC are the Cleveland Browns and Sacramento Kings of mens college basketball.

    FWIW, the article did say this was being looked at last June. Maybe the final vote was reactionary, but it seems like everything else was already in the works by the time the WCC Tourney/the vote by the Presidents rolled around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    With fewer games in the conference schedule and some smart scheduling, we can have more marketable games for ESPN. I think this announcement can help a lot in retaining ESPN as a partner of the WCC.
    If the WCC backs away from each team playing one game on ESPN every year, ESPN might go for it. Of course, you can still have the Zags playing the most games on TV, and still come close to having each WCC team be on TV at least once.

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    Sitting in my office watching a blog re: potential WCC expansion to try and keep the WCC - ESPN contract. I know who Seattle U and Denver are, but who are GCU and Cal Baptist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
    If the WCC backs away from each team playing one game on ESPN every year, ESPN might go for it. Of course, you can still have the Zags playing the most games on TV, and still come close to having each WCC team be on TV at least once.
    Yeah, sounds like it would be a 7 week schedule plus the tournament or maybe 8 weeks.

    Non GU games that work are any that involve BYU, especially BYU home games and then some of the SMC and USF homes games can draw some big and enthusiastic crowds.

    Plenty of good games to show and with the shorter schedule, games like GU at LMU, Pepp and UP can be on ROOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdawg View Post
    Other possible changes.........

    @InsideTheKennel
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    "Gonzaga gets to approve Saint Mary's nonconference schedule for next 5 years"

    "Randy Bennett must shake hands for 3 seconds at the end of games"

    Just 2 things I'd like included in this WCC "Enhancement Plan".

    What do you want?
    LOL, you just won the internet for today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    Yeah, sounds like it would be a 7 week schedule plus the tournament or maybe 8 weeks.

    Non GU games that work are any that involve BYU, especially BYU home games and then some of the SMC and USF homes games can draw some big and enthusiastic crowds.

    Plenty of good games to show and with the shorter schedule, games like GU at LMU, Pepp and UP can be on ROOT.
    ROOT will be happy with that. Zag games on ROOT are a staple on the Houston ROOT affiliate.

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    It sounds like a very good deal for 5 or so years..and until the Big East forms a western division. I'd love to be in the BE. A high end serious conference. Until then though, we can still make more money and get 14 or so nonconference games. I hope we don't waste them on the "Sister Rosamelda ALL Star College" in Northern Maine

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75Zag View Post
    Sitting in my office watching a blog re: potential WCC expansion to try and keep the WCC - ESPN contract. I know who Seattle U and Denver are, but who are GCU and Cal Baptist?

    Go Bulldogs!
    Grand Canyon & Cal Baptist already have 1st rate facilities from what I've been told.

    Grand Canyon's student section is killer.
    This post is for March Madness seeding purposes only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post
    It is still unclear to me......is the WCC going to adopt a thing where Gonzaga (and other teams) only play one game per week two times during league play, or will the league schedule start later next season??

    The problem is that due to the expansion of league games in the major conferences, it is getting more and more difficult to schedule a home and home with a Texas or Michigan during league play.

    Apparently we are moving back to a spot where the "calendar" works (# of weeks between when the league season starts & when the league Tourney starts). Has not been the case for the past 2 years. So, it is my understanding (though I wouldn't take it to the bank) that the league will start later, return to the old schedule of 2 @ home on a weekend, 2 on the road & 1 game when playing travel partner (which opens up the mid-year non-conference game again).
    This post is for March Madness seeding purposes only.

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    These are exactly the types of changes needed for GU to at least consider staying, and is a great start to possible negotiations with the MWC. I'm not convinced moving to the MWC is enough better to be worth the switch, but at least now it feels like if we do stay in the WCC, there's something more to it.
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    IF we can retain an ESPN contract, I think this is a WCC slam dunk.

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