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    I don't think Josh is going to end up getting any school records except the most important. That is I'm confident that Josh will end up having the most NCAA tournament wins of any Gonzaga player ever and its likely a record that will last a long, long time.

    Meanwhile he is likely going to be a top ten scorer, top 5 assist man, top 5 in steals and top 5 in 3's made. One hell of a career!

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    From memory - (Maybe someone with better research skills can fill in the gaps, correct my errors?)


    Most NCAA wins

    Karnowski 10
    Melson 10
    Perkins 7
    Calvary 7
    Pangos 6
    Bell 6
    Nigel Williams Goss 5
    Santangelo 5
    Frahm 5

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    For Perkins to lay claim to the record for most career NCAA Tourney wins, he's going to have to pass Melson. That would require 4 wins in '19. Possible, but certainly not guaranteed. Melson will be the current leader after this year's Tourney. I'm gonna go ahead and assume the Zags win at least one game, because when is the last time GU was one and done? Been a long, long time. Sweet 16 or better is also very possible.

    edited--I'm taking former1dog's word for it per the above post

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    Like I said, it’s an outside chance. I do think he has a better shot at the assist record than anything else. I think he averages 5+ assists this year. If he increases that to 6 next year, it’s going to be real close. Like SeaCat showed, The Zags would have to make the final 4 next year for Josh to hold that record. Losing in the elite 8 would leave him tied with Silas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    From memory - (Maybe someone with better research skills can fill in the gaps, correct my errors?)


    Most NCAA wins

    Karnowski 10
    Melson 10
    Perkins 7
    Calvary 7
    Pangos 6
    Bell 6
    Nigel Williams Goss 5
    Santangelo 5
    Frahm 5
    Know you're not including everyone former, but I always like to give Mark Spink his props. Graduated with Calvary, so was in that group with the 1st big run.

    There were only 10 players on that 98-99 team but they all played; Spink was a RS Soph. By his Sr. year he had developed into the WCC DPOY. Had a good run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    Know you're not including everyone former, but I always like to give Mark Spink his props. Graduated with Calvary, so was in that group with the 1st big run.

    There were only 10 players on that 98-99 team but they all played; Spink was a RS Soph. By his Sr. year he had developed into the WCC DPOY. Had a good run.

    I'm a big Mark Spink fan. I attended school with his older brother who is a really nice guy and he also played ball for GU. It crossed my mind that he was probably on that list and thought maybe he might be ahead of Calvary even, but I couldn't remember for sure. That list is just from memory, so sorry for the omission and I hope someone comes along and sets that list straight.

    Also Seacatfan has a good point about Melson, but I would love to see Josh make a run to the final four next year to knock off Melson!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    I'm a big Mark Spink fan. I attended school with his older brother who is a really nice guy and he also played ball for GU. It crossed my mind that he was probably on that list and thought maybe he might be ahead of Calvary even, but I couldn't remember for sure. That list is just from memory, so sorry for the omission and I hope someone comes along and sets that list straight.

    Also Seacatfan has a good point about Melson, but I would love to see Josh make a run to the final four next year to knock off Melson!!
    Clearly the more the better, regardless.

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    Gonzaga Streak Length
    Tournament Appearances 19
    Round of 32 9
    Sweet 16 3
    Final Four 1

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    If Wiltjer gets to count his Tourney wins while at Kentucky wouldn't he be the current leader w/ 11? They cut down the nets his Fr. year I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    If Wiltjer gets to count his Tourney wins while at Kentucky wouldn't he be the current leader w/ 11? They cut down the nets his Fr. year I believe.
    I'm calculating Gonzaga records. Wiltjer's wins at Kentucky don't count for the purposes of these calculations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    If Wiltjer gets to count his Tourney wins while at Kentucky wouldn't he be the current leader w/ 11? They cut down the nets his Fr. year I believe.
    I should also note that I didn't go into see if each player played during each win, other than the obvious ones like Rem Bakamus. So, there are likely adjustments there that may make my numbers a bit off.

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    Any idea who is the overall Tourney win player? Just to put it context with our guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    I'm calculating Gonzaga records. Wiltjer's wins at Kentucky don't count for the purposes of these calculations.
    Yes, I understand this is Tourney wins while at Gonzaga. Just thought it was worth noting. I can't think of any other transfers that experienced significant success in the post season. Mathews might've gotten 1 or 2 Tourney wins while at Cal. Pretty sure NWG and JWIII were both goose eggs and zero Tourney appearances prior to transferring. Dickau, Knight, don't think UW did much during their tenures either. I might be forgetting somebody but I think Wiltjer is the exception in this regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagzKrak View Post
    Any idea who is the overall Tourney win player? Just to put it context with our guys.
    Probably a Dookie. Back when they were going to the Final 4 just about every year. Laettner (21) or Hurley (18) or Hill (18), probably one of those guys. Certainly biased toward era of 64 team field and Fr. eligibility.

    edited--Goes w/out saying it would have to be a 4 year player, which really narrows the field, especially in more recent years. Tyler Hansbrough (14) racked up quite a few Tourney W's while at Carolina. If the Heels do anything this year Joel Berry (13) will have a nice total.

    Most of UCLA's guys during the Howland era didn't stay 4 years, but Darren Collison (14) did. I think he was part of all 3 Final 4 teams. One Championship appearance. So that's at least 13 wins, plus whatever they did his Sr. year.

    Even though they only stayed 3 years the core of Florida's back to back Championship teams got plenty of W's. Noah, Horford and Brewer (13).

    edited again, I went thru and checked on a few of these guys and added win totals in paranthesis

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    Yes, I understand this is Tourney wins while at Gonzaga. Just thought it was worth noting. I can't think of any other transfers that experienced significant success in the post season. Mathews might've gotten 1 or 2 Tourney wins while at Cal. Pretty sure NWG and JWIII were both goose eggs and zero Tourney appearances prior to transferring. Dickau, Knight, don't think UW did much during their tenures either. I might be forgetting somebody but I think Wiltjer is the exception in this regard.
    Yep, definitely worth noting.

    Following up on my other comment, it looks like the list I created is likely off considering some end of the bench guys getting credit for wins they didn't play in.

    For example, Jeremy Jones I have listed as 5 wins. He played in only 4 and was a DNP against South Carolina. I suspect a few other win totals might be off on this basis, like Dranginis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagzKrak View Post
    Any idea who is the overall Tourney win player? Just to put it context with our guys.
    Christian Laettner won 21 NCAA tournament games including back to back to back national title games, winning the last 2.

    In 1991 Duke beat undefeated and heavily favored UNLV in the National Semifinals.


    Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) was undefeated in the NCAA tournament and I believe was 12-0, but freshman weren't allowed to play so he missed out on 4 national championships and a potential 16-0 record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagzKrak View Post
    Any idea who is the overall Tourney win player? Just to put it context with our guys.
    Okay, after all my rambling, according to wikipedia the winner is Christian Laettner. Played in 23 Tournament games in his career, 24 is the max number possible. 21 wins. Pretty amazing. Still hate him though.

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    Thanks for the hard work, F1!
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    Great stuff F1! Thanks!
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    Zags are now 25-4 (15-1 WCC) after home wins against LMU and Pepperdine. Zags how now won at least 25 games for 11 straight years, second longest streak in the nation behind Kansas’ streak of 12. GU has won 25+ games in 17 of the last 19 years. Few's lowest win total was 23, in ’06 - ’07.


    • Perkins: Combined for 22 points, nine assists, three made 3-pointers and four steals. On the career scoring list, Josh passes Jarrod Davis ('91 - '92), Bryce McPhee (’81 - ’85) and Jon Kinloch (’93 - ’96). He also passes David Stockton (’11 - ’14) on the career assist list, moving up to #7 with 431. Josh moves into the top 10 for career 3-pointers, passing Matt Bouldin (’07 - ’10) and tying Dan Dickau (’01 - ’02) at #9 with 188.
    • Melson: Had 19 points and three made 3-pointers. Melson also made 2 of 2 free throws. Moved ahead of Jim McPhee (’86 - ’90) in single-season free throw percentage, currently at #5.
    • Williams: 30 points, 25 rebounds and four blocks.
    • Hachimura: Made eight of 12 free throws.



    Mark Few Wins: 526


    Career Points
    1. Frank Burgess – 2,196
    2. Jim McPhee – 2,015
    3. Adam Morrison – 1,867
    4. Elias Harris – 1,857
    5. Kevin Pangos – 1,824
    6. Matt Santangelo – 1,810
    7. Ronny Turiaf – 1,723
    8. Matt Bouldin – 1,683
    9. Blake Stepp – 1,670
    10. Jeff Brown – 1,646
    11. Richie Frahm – 1,621
    12. Jerry Vermillion – 1,547
    13. Casey Calvary – 1,509
    14. Rich Evans – 1,507
    15. Przemek Karnowski – 1,495
    16. Derek Raivio – 1,456
    17. Gary Lechman – 1,452
    18. Steven Gray – 1,432
    19. Doug Spradley – 1,427
    20. Kyle Wiltjer – 1,374
    21. Bill Suter – 1,354
    22. Cory Violette – 1,342
    23. John Stockton – 1,340
    24. Gary Bell Jr – 1,291
    25. Sam Dower – 1,271
    26. Robert Sacre – 1,270
    27. Jeremy Pargo – 1,245
    28. Bill Wilson – 1,226
    29. Josh Heytvelt – 1,172
    30. Matt Stanford – 1,171
    31. Greg Sten – 1,168
    32. Zach Gourde – 1,143
    33. Dan Dickau – 1,125
    34. Jack Curran – 1,121
    35. Frank Walter – 1,083
    36. Josh Perkins – 1,076
    37. Jon Kinloch – 1,071
    38. Bryce McPhee – 1,060
    39. Jarrod Davis – 1,054
    40. John Rillie – 1,038
    41. Jeff Condill – 1,004
    42. Domantas Sabonis – 1,002
    NR. Silas Melson – 905
    NR. Johnathan Williams – 790 (Including Mizzou: 1375)


    Career 3-Pointers Made
    1. Kevin Pangos – 322
    2. Blake Stepp – 288
    3. Richie Frahm – 280
    4. Matt Santangelo – 252
    5. Derek Raivio – 243
    6. John Rillie – 230
    7. Gary Bell, Jr – 219
    8. Steven Gray – 210
    9t. Dan Dickau – 188
    9t. Josh Perkins – 188
    11. Matt Bouldin – 187
    12. Kyle Bankhead – 169
    13. Kyle Wiltjer – 158
    14. Jon Kinloch – 157
    15. Silas Melson – 143
    16. Jarrod Davis – 133
    17. Adam Morrison – 128
    18. Doug Spradley – 114
    19. Micah Downs – 111
    20. Quentin Hall – 100
    21. Kyle Dranginis – 95


    Single Season 3-Pointers Made
    1. Dan Dickau – 117 ('01 - '02)
    2. Blake Stepp – 98 ('02 - '03)
    3. John Rillie – 96 ('94 - '95)
    4. Richie Frahm – 93 ('98 - '99)
    5. John Rillie – 91 ('93 - '94)
    6. Richie Frahm – 90 ('99 - '00)
    7t. Jordan Mathews - 85 ('16 - '17)
    7t. Derek Raivio – 85 ('06 - '07)
    9. Kevin Pangos – 84 ('13 - '14)
    10. Kevin Pangos – 81 ('14 - '15)
    NR. Josh Perkins – 73 ('17 - '18)


    Single Season Free Throws Percentage
    1. Derek Raivio – 96.1% ('06 - '07)
    2. Derek Raivio – 91.2% ('05 - '06)
    3. Derek Raivio – 90.3% ('04 - '05)
    4. Eddie White – 89.2% ('79 - '80)
    5. Silas Melson – 89.1% ('17 - '18) (41 of 46)
    6. Jim McPhee – 89.0% ('86 - '87)
    7. Austin Daye – 88.1% ('07 - '08)
    8. John Rillie – 87.9% ('94 - '95)
    9. Jim McPhee – 87.6% ('88 - '89)
    10. Kevin Pangos – 87.3% ('13 - '14)
    11. John Brodsky – 87.0% ('65 - '66)
    NR. Rui Hachimura – 85.5% ('17 - '18) (71 of 83)


    Career Assists
    1. Matt Santangelo – 668
    2. Blake Stepp – 640
    3. Jeremy Pargo – 589
    4. John Stockton – 554
    5. Kevin Pangos – 536
    6. Matt Bouldin – 444
    7. Josh Perkins – 431
    8. David Stockton – 423
    9. Derek Raivio – 356
    10. Steven Gray – 339
    11. Geoff Goss – 335
    12. Doug Spradley – 324
    13. Don Baldwin – 313
    14. Jim McPhee – 305
    15. Kyle Dixon – 303
    16t. Dan Dickau – 299
    16t. Kyle Dranginis – 299


    Career Steals
    1. John Stockton – 262
    2. Kevin Pangos – 177
    3t. Jeremy Pargo – 170
    3t. Matt Bouldin – 170
    5. David Stockton – 167
    6. Doug Spradley – 159
    7. Derek Raivio – 158
    8. Steven Gray – 155
    9. Blake Stepp – 152
    10. Geoff Goss – 139
    11. Tim Wagoner – 131
    12. Elias Harris – 123
    13t. Jeff Condill – 116
    13t. Kyle Dranginis – 116
    15. Matt Santangelo – 115
    NR. Josh Perkins – 114


    Career Blocked Shots
    1. Casey Calvary – 207
    2. Robert Sacre – 186
    3. Ronny Turiaf – 179
    4. Przemek Karnowski – 152
    5. Austin Daye – 124
    6. Tim Ruff – 99
    7. Josh Heytvelt – 95
    8. Zach Gourde – 86
    9. Cory Violette – 85
    10. Mark Spink – 80
    11. Abdullahi Kuso – 77
    12. Sam Dower – 75
    13t. Paul Rogers – 72
    13t. Elias Harris – 72
    15. Marc Armstead – 70
    NR. Johnathan Williams – 68 (Including Mizzou: 144)


    Career Rebounds
    1. Jerry Vermillion – 1670
    2. Elias Harris – 979
    3. Gary Lechman – 910
    4. Cory Violette – 880
    5. Ronny Turiaf – 859
    6. Przemek Karnowski – 821
    7. Greg Sten – 783
    8. Casey Calvary – 757
    9. Domantas Sabonis – 694
    10. Robert Sacre – 679
    11. Jim Dixon – 666
    12. Charlie Jordan – 642
    13. Jim Grady – 634
    14. Bill Quigg – 630
    15. Larry Brown – 604
    16. Frank Burgess – 595
    17. Joe Clayton – 593
    NR. Johnathan Williams – 484 (Including Mizzou: 939)


    Career Wins
    1. Przemek Karnowski – 137
    2t. Kevin Pangos – 122
    2t. Kyle Dranginis – 122
    4. Silas Melson – 119
    5. Gary Bell – 116
    6. David Stockton – 112
    7. Sam Dower – 110
    8. Elias Harris – 108
    9. Cory Violette – 107
    10t. Ronny Turiaf – 106
    10t. Sean Mallon – 106
    NR. Josh Perkins – 93


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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    Gonzaga Streak Length
    Tournament Appearances 19
    Round of 32 9
    Sweet 16 3
    Final Four 1
    Ive never quite understood why we end at Final Fours when talking about records and whatnot. Even on banners. To my mind we did make the final four, but also moved on past it to the national championship game, so wouldnt that actually be the last round int eh tournament, or is it the last round that a team won? never quite gotten that.

    A little more on topic, crazy that Williams would be a top three in rebounding if we added his previous. He's never been huge in that category game to game (minus these last bunch of double doubles) in my mind until I look at the stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooter73 View Post
    Ive never quite understood why we end at Final Fours when talking about records and whatnot. Even on banners. To my mind we did make the final four, but also moved on past it to the national championship game, so wouldnt that actually be the last round int eh tournament, or is it the last round that a team won? never quite gotten that.

    A little more on topic, crazy that Williams would be a top three in rebounding if we added his previous. He's never been huge in that category game to game (minus these last bunch of double doubles) in my mind until I look at the stats.
    Gonzaga StreakLength
    Tournament Appearances 19
    Round of 32 9
    Sweet 16 3
    Final Four 1
    Championship Game 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    Gonzaga StreakLength
    Tournament Appearances 19
    Round of 32 9
    Sweet 16 3
    Final Four 1
    Championship Game 1

    Why don't we list our EE's?

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