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    26 points 13 assists 7 rebounds. The Sky blew out the league leading Lynx. Unfortunately Chicago stinks this year.

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    Yes, Sloot had a great game yesterday. She shot 11-16 overall, 3-6 from 3-point range and 1-1 free throws.

    Chicago had a horrible off season. Fired their head coach and replaced her with a new coach who has no head coaching experience and only 2 years of asst. coaching experience.

    Their best player and top scorer (Elena Della Donne) threatened to sit out if she was not traded to a team of her choice. Chicago had to settle for what they could get.

    Their point guard (Sloot) and top shooting guard (Quigley) missed the first week and half of the season because they were playing each other in the Turkish Championship (Best of 3), won by Sloot's team. Sloot then took another week and a half off to play for the Hungarian National team. Combine the missed games with an entirely new offensive scheme and it is easy to understand why Chicago has looked out of sync so far this year.

    We will see how the Chicago team develops as the season progresses.

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    Yeah Delle Donne and Fowles pulling the same thing in back to back off seasons was a brutal blow. Obviously the Sky didn't get close to equal value in those 2 trades. It wasn't long ago Chicago looked like they were about to become the dominant team in the Eastern Conference for the foreseeable future. It sure went sideways in a hurry.

    Wasn't aware of the new coach's lack of experience. San Antonio did the exact same thing. What's the deal w/ these WNBA franchises? Are they deliberately trying to have losing teams?

    Hey, I have zero head coaching or assistant coaching experience, maybe I can be a WNBA head coach next season!

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    Thanks for the info guys. Always enjoy the Sloot news, but don't follow the WNBA.

    Had no idea that Della Donne forced a trade. Knew she had been traded & thought Chicago was nuts. Makes more sense now.
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    According to Courtney's comments in post game presser, the team's had barely more than a week of practice together as a unit due to her absences (and Quiqley's) playing in European championship games. Tho not impressed w/Sky's new coach's responses in the Q & A, Sloot sounded like she could rally the team around her in-game savvy and ability to distribute the ball going forward. Would savor that.

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    okay its just me and my opinion but HOW does a team function when its players jump in and out of the game?....Ephany Prince did the same thing for Chicago a few years ago and other players do it as well....seems to me that if the WNBA wanted to really be a big important league they would pay their players appropriately and forbid them from playing during the season for other teams..

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    I think the WNBA is already paying players what it can afford to pay them. It is subsidized by the NBA and barely hanging on from what I understand. I don't know why women's professional basketball leagues are able to pay players so much more in other countries, but I don't think it's going to change.

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    But you are correct sylean, that has to be difficult w/ players coming and going and not having rosters set and stable. Players have skipped entire WNBA seasons to rest their bodies, since the real money is overseas. However a few players do the opposite, concentrating on only playing during the WNBA season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylean View Post
    okay its just me and my opinion but HOW does a team function when its players jump in and out of the game?....Ephany Prince did the same thing for Chicago a few years ago and other players do it as well....seems to me that if the WNBA wanted to really be a big important league they would pay their players appropriately and forbid them from playing during the season for other teams..
    There really are two (2) issues here; First the playing for other teams during the WNBA off season and playing for the (a) National Team.

    While it would be nice if the WNBA paid their players sufficiently that the players would not be forced (essentially) to play in foreign leagues, the reality is that if the NBA did not subsidize the WNBA, the WNBA would not exist. The WNBA simply cannot survive on their own under the current pay scale let alone if the player salaries were increased by 50-100% or more. There simply is not the demand for women's basketball to justify high ticket prices, and lucrative TV packages. For example, the lady Zags have an average higher attendance than the Chicago Sky. Here in the US the teams are generally privately owned and the government does not subsidize any teams or leagues like many of the foreign nations.

    When Diana Taurasi can get paid a million dollars to not play for the Phoenix Mercury by her Russian BB team, the WNBA stands no chance in a salary war with many of the foreign leagues. Even if a "no compete clause" was legal and you forced the players to chose, the WNBA would come out on the short end of the stick.

    Sloot just got her dual citizenship with US & Hungary. It was Sloot's choice to play for Hungary. No league is going to ban their players from playing with the National Team even if that national team is a foreign national. If you follow soccer at all, think of how many players the Seattle Sounders have lost to the national team in the middle of the season. It is happening right now as the national team is playing in the gold cup with the team made up of players from the MLS teams and foreign teams. It also happens during the Olympics. I think the NHL is the only league which is not going to take time off during the Winter Olympics. I think all other leagues either take a break during the Olympics or play without their stars. Even the NBA with their exorbitant salaries still has an abundance of players who want to play for team USA.

    Keep in mind that all of the WNBA teams are in the same boat. Chicago is in this boat mainly to their own undoing combined with player contracts that permit the players to sit out and earn years of experience towards free agency. Sylvia Fowles forced Chicago to trade her to Minnesota a couple of years ago and Elena Della Donne did it to Chicago this year by forcing a trade to Washington effectively gutting a top tier team. It is hard to build a fan base when players refuse to play out their contracts. Without a large and enthusiastic fan base, the WNBA will always be a "minor" league.

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    Another great game by Courtney and a nice little write up to go with it.
    https://wnbafanblog.wordpress.com/20...season-around/

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    Thanks for the link CandL. It was a very nice article.

    In Pokey's (previous Sky headcoach) offense, Sloot was not been asked to lead the team. Very deliberate offense. Dribble the ball down the court and pass it to the scorer's. Leading the team always fell to the scorer's or veterans (Fowles, Della Donne, Pondexter, etc.). With Cappie hurt and the others traded, the Sky do not have what most would consider a "star" on their team. The new coach appears to want a much more uptempo offense. This type of offense suits Sloot's skills much better.

    The current Sky team is just like her Zag teams. No standouts, no all-Americans, no 5-star recruits, just a bunch of hard-nosed players playing their butts off. The last four games, has been like old home week for Sloot and she has stepped up to the plate. I hope the Sky keep this uptempo offense as I think that Sloot is in the last year of her contract and running this type of offense will make her very valuable.

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    Thanks CandL.
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    Sloot and the Chicago Sky are hot. Sky have won 4 of their last five including today's victory over the LA Sparks (defending champions).

    Sloot went for 14 points (5-8 overall, 2-3 from 3 and 1-1 FT), 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 1 steal and only 2 turnovers. Except for the victory over the Seattle Storm, Sloot is averaging a double-double over the past 5 games.

    Things are heating up in Chi-Town.

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    Good for the Sky and Sloot. Seems like pretty much everybody is mired in mediocrity in the Eastern Conference, they can play their way back into the playoff race. Maybe pretty much the whole league is mired in mediocrity other than Minnesota and LA. Except for the teams that really stink, like San Antonio. And Seattle has been struggling for a month or more.

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    Another great game for Sloot today and another win for the Sky. She finished w/ 26 pts., 7 rebounds, 10 assists w/ 0 TO's! 9-11 from the field, 3-3 behind the arc and 5-5 from the FT line. That's off the charts efficiency, can't do much better than that.

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    Yeah Sloot has not been half bad.

    Tonight was her 4th double-double in a row which set an WNBA record. To think they keep winning despite the fact they traded two (2) more players this week including their 6'-7" center and still keep winning.

    Just a half game out of 8th place and a playoff position.

    Keep it up Sloot, you almost got the Sky back into the playoffs. You got this.

    Here is a nice write-up on Sloot, Quigley and Dolson who have kept the Sky together this year.

    http://sky.wnba.com/news/quigley-van...-powering-sky/

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    Sloot was named as one of the two (2) players of the week in the WNBA. The clips are the write-up from the WNBA and the highlights from last week's games.

    http://www.wnba.com/news/chicagos-va...-players-week/
    http://www.wnba.com/video/highlights...er-week-aug-7/

    Her stats for last week were not too bad.

    https://twitter.com/wnbachicagosky/s...42358972817408

    To top off her week, she is the first player in WNBA history to average 10 points and 10 assists for four (4) straight games.

    https://twitter.com/WNBA/status/894653649711882241

    Keep it up Sloot. We are cheering for you from Zagland.

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    Another day, another double-double for Sloot. Thursday night Sloot had her record breaking fifth double-double (points and assists) in a row as she led the Chicago Sky to a 94-74 victory over the San Antonio Silver Stars.

    Sloot's stat line was 21 points (9-11 overall & 3-5 from 3-pt), 10 assists, 4 rebounds and only 3 turnovers. She only played just over 28 minutes due to the big lead held by the Sky. The Sky are now tied for 8th place (last playoff spot - they hold the tiebreaker) with seven games to go before the playoffs.

    Next game for Courtney is Friday against the 2nd place LA Sparks in Chicago. The Sky finish with a bruising schedule - their last 7 games occur over a total of 15 days.

    Here is a very nice write-up on Sloot and her rise in the WNBA by a Chicago journalist.

    http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20...ing-to-the-top

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    Thanks for posting the article, good read. She has been tearing it up lately. Hope she continues to roll.

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    Thanks SeaCat.

    While I don't mind talking to myself (obviously), it still is nice to interact with other posters, at least on occasion.

    What I found interesting was Courtney's views on how unprepared she was for the WNBA:

    Vandersloot got plenty of opportunities in her rookie season when she started 26 of 34 games in 2011.

    That didn't mean she was comfortable, though. She said she felt outsized, outmuscled and out-quicked.

    She wasn't expecting such a big jump from college basketball, where she was the national point guard of the year. That was why she questioned her place in the WNBA.

    "Not to say anything bad and I don't want to bash my conference (West Coast Conference) or my school (Gonzaga), but I played in a smaller conference and it was a big jump when I got to the pros," Vandersloot said. "It's always a jump no matter what from college. But then when you go from where I was playing and you're playing the Stanfords and the UConns maybe once a year instead of all the time, I just didn't have the competition or the physicality or the speed.

    "Luckily I had coaches who believed in me, and this team (Sky) that has always believed in me. And with hard work I've continued to get better. And now, seven years into the league, I'm seeing again what I was my senior year."

    Vandersloot says the biggest difference between making that kind of impact in college versus in the pros is strength. After years of getting pushed around in her WNBA career, Vandersloot has committed to the weight room in recent years. Almost excessively.

    "I love it, I'm addicted to it," Vandersloot said. "I'm not the strongest, but I lift every single game day, which people think is crazy. I do it overseas, too.
    As many of us have stated in the past, the WNBA (and many of the foreign leagues) is a whole class above collegiate ball. Being a good or even a really good player in college is simply not good enough to make it in the WNBA. While we have lots of former players in many of the European and Australian leagues, Courtney is our only former player that has stuck in the WNBA and all she did was be the only collegiate player to gather 2,000 points and 1,000 assists in her career.

    You are making us proud Sloot. Keep up the good work.

    Continue to Zag Up.

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    She did it again. 6 straight games w/ a double-double points/assists. 22 points on 9-13 shooting and 12 assists. She's just been killing it lately! I think she is establishing herself as the best pure PG in the WNBA at the moment. Although the Sky lost to the Sparks and are in a dogfight for the last playoff spot. The Storm have started winning again since dumping their coach, riding a 3 game winning streak currently.

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    Sloot is playing very good. It is unfortunate that the Sky lost last night. The Sky lost because of the turnover differential. LA only had 6 turnovers while Chicago had 21 (Sloot had 5). You simply cannot give last year's champions 21 additional opportunities and still win. The Sky are now 1.5 games out of 8th place (the final playoff spot). They play Seattle tomorrow and likely must beat the Storm if they want any chance at making the playoffs this year.

    A total of three (3) of the all-time assist records (all currently held by Ticha Penicheiro) will likely fall this year.

    The record for the average number of assists per game for a season is 8.0 and Sloot is, after last night, averaging 8.0 assists per game. She just needs to average over 8.0 assists over the last six (6) games to get this record.

    The total assists for a season is 236 and Layshia Clarendon of Atlanta needs 34 more assists in her last five (5) games to tie this mark. Sloot's highest number of assists in any year was 184 in 2013 and 198 in 2015. Sloot currently has a total of 169 assists this year after last night and would need achieve 67 assists in her last 6 games to beat the season assist mark. Certainly possible with the way she is playing but not likely. Sloot missed alot of games at the beginning of the season due to her Turkish and Hungarian national team commitments or she would already be challenging this mark.

    Finally, Sue Bird of Seattle needs 26 assists in the remaining games to pass the Ticha's lifetime assist total of 2599. Sloot has a total of 1078 assists through most of seven (7) seasons. There are only (or soon will be) six (6) players which have an WNBA total greater than 1,500 assists. Given her current level of play, assuming she does not get hurt, Sloot should pass 1,500 assists in the next two (2) years.

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    Well it had to end eventually. Sloot didn't reach double figures in scoring or assists today. Chicago got DESTROYED by Seattle today, probably ending the Sky's playoff hopes. The Storm jumped on them early and just cruised, won by almost 40. How is that even possible when two professional teams are playing each other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    Well it had to end eventually. Sloot didn't reach double figures in scoring or assists today. Chicago got DESTROYED by Seattle today, probably ending the Sky's playoff hopes. The Storm jumped on them early and just cruised, won by almost 40. How is that even possible when two professional teams are playing each other?
    Doesn't seem possible does it?

    Best guess from what little I saw is that the Sky left it all on the table in the double overtime loss to the Sparks on Friday and did not have the legs on Sunday. Sloot had been averaging low to mid-30 minutes per game and only played 23 minutes yesterday. Chicago had been averaging over 50% shooting overall and 42+% (sometimes over 50%) from 3. When your legs go your shot goes and the Sky only shot 40.3% overall and 18.8% from 3-pt range against Seattle. Mix that with a step slow on defense and you get a blow-out.

    The Sky are 2.5 games back with 5 to play. It is not officially over but it is pretty close and with the Sky having to play the remaining 5 games in the next week plus, I would not bet the farm on Chicago staging a comeback.

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    After the forgettable game with Seattle, Sloot has now moved up to 17th on the all-time WNBA assist leader board with a total of 1,077 assists.

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