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    Quote Originally Posted by btzag View Post
    Like I said earlier in this thread... I don't know why this is a shock? It's one day before the deadline and he's still working out for teams and he's spent four years in college so leaving has to be on his mind. The only assurances we've had are from anonymous posters on this board...
    GoZags isn't an "anonymous source".

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    GoZags isn't an "anonymous source".
    As you know, one of my favorite expressions is "Nothing is in the bag until it is the bag".

    In my opinion the "in the bag" happens when something is made "official".

    That being said, I'm still of the belief that J3 comes back .... and while that may be something I'd "heard" .... it certainly isn't "official" ...

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    Whatever J3 does .... he'll do it well. Eager to have him stay another season at GU but wish him the best today. If he stays at GU these tryouts are going to add to his overall package as a Zag.

    Interesting season this one. Should the Zags make going deep into the NCAAs a regular feature we'll be sitting on pins and needles often with some guys contemplating leaving the team before we'd really like them to as Zag fans. It's going to be a very interesting 2017-2018 with all the newbs to the program. I'm both excited and a bit head spinny!

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    Tomorrow is the deadline for underclassmen to pull out of the NBA draft. (10 days after the combine ends) What do people think JWIII will do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbyspapa View Post
    Tomorrow is the deadline for underclassmen to pull out of the NBA draft. (10 days after the combine ends) What do people think JWIII will do?
    Come back. Crazy not to IMO. He didn't even get an invite to the combine. Hopefully the experience helped him know what to work on, and he becomes a first round pick next year!

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    He can make a living now in Europe. Small shot at NBA D league. Big question, can he get better enough to reach first round in 2018? That's what he's probably asking himself tonight.

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    Very nice. Thanks for posting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    He can make a living now in Europe. Small shot at NBA D league. Big question, can he get better enough to reach first round in 2018? That's what he's probably asking himself tonight.
    Or, how much is a Masters really worth?
    It's not funny.

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    He could develop further and have a magnificent year. Hope he stays.
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    Not every player reads these boards, yet I know for a fact J3 is one who does...

    Fwiw.

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    Default Johnathon Williams III Spending His Birthday Working Out for the Raptors

    If he feels it's in his best interest to declare, then he should.

    TO J3 (if he actually does read the board):

    You have the ability to become proficient in the post, at the next level. Know who to trust, and stay close to that guidance. Be prayerful and let the Lord guide your course. If you can get some guaranteed money, and a chance to develop, and that feels right...then do it. Have faith and move forward.

    If you feel you need to come back, then take that course. You owe no one but your Heavenly Father ,your Savior and yourself the best course forward. Either way-Once a Zag, Always a Zag. #ZAG4LIFE #ZAGUP


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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzdelmar View Post
    He can make a living now in Europe. Small shot at NBA D league. Big question, can he get better enough to reach first round in 2018? That's what he's probably asking himself tonight.
    I think he can. He will be more of a featured player this year. I think his jump this year is going to be impressive.

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    It sounds like he is getting some good feedback about what he needs to work on--- adding to his tool kit a 3 pt shot (taking more shots) and working on his free throws.

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    He can improve faster (and get paid for it) in the Pro's...... playing more games against better players and being coached and trained by the people that know what it takes to succeed in that environment....and he can focus almost exclusively on basketball...IMHO of course.

    If he wants to go to college or grad school, he can do that at any time in the future, but there are a precious few years that you can play basketball to your potential.

    Love to see him play for GU but he should to do what is best for him and his family.

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    Remind me-- how many mock draft boards is he on again? Europe is going to be there this year or next year-- but if he can work his way into the draft next year with a solid year while improving on the areas where he has been advised to work on. I think there are 28-30 PF ahead of him in the draft and he ranks at #98 out of the top 100 players this year.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard

    Next year he is showing as the #57 pick in the draft --- but with a good year has a lot of room to move up (15 PF ahead of him right now). With the way the team is laid out for next year he could average 16 and 9-10 boards and give himself a good boost up the board.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft

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    'Bye. The blows just keep on coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdawg View Post
    Remind me-- how many mock draft boards is he on again? Europe is going to be there this year or next year-- but if he can work his way into the draft next year with a solid year while improving on the areas where he has been advised to work on. I think there are 28-30 PF ahead of him in the draft and he ranks at #98 out of the top 100 players this year.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard

    Next year he is showing as the #57 pick in the draft --- but with a good year has a lot of room to move up (15 PF ahead of him right now). With the way the team is laid out for next year he could average 16 and 9-10 boards and give himself a good boost up the board.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft
    You're going to run into issues with going primarily off of draft boards, in some situations. They won't always reflect current thinking of scouts and exec's, or sometimes won't until that thinking is more definitive.

    He could very well be seen by a scout or exec that thinks they can take this kid and turn him into a steal of a pickup. He could even be hearing that he's going to get guaranteed money as a UFA and a chance to play a role on a team.


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    JW3 was completely overshadowed this year by our other guys in terms of national spotlight. It really was a 3 headed monster with him, Karnowski, and Collins (And Tillie to a lesser extent), but the attention was not divided evenly. He simply had no buzz going into this draft process.

    If he comes back next year, all eyes are going to be on him and he should be able to post some head-turning stats. He might have a chance at playing himself into the first round next year if he can improve his jump shot and show scouts a consistent three pointer. Even if he's not a first rounder after another season, he will almost certainly improve his draft stock by showing he can shoulder a greater load, and should be able to greatly increase his professional playing opportunities, both state-side and in Europe.

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    Pretty far down. But if he shows well, who knows. I think his shooting could use work...3's and past the elbow. Defense, speed, lateral movement all could use work.
    We'll see soon enough. Even if he withdraws from this draft, he can still head to Europe or something akin. We're not safe untill he says we are. Not much has been hear from the coaching staff since April 3. I wonder what they're thinking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDABE80 View Post
    Pretty far down. But if he shows well, who knows. I think his shooting could use work...3's and past the elbow. Defense, speed, lateral movement all could use work.
    We'll see soon enough. Even if he withdraws from this draft, he can still head to Europe or something akin. We're not safe untill he says we are. Not much has been hear from the coaching staff since April 3. I wonder what they're thinking...
    Agree with extended shooting range

    Absolutely disagree defense, speed and lateral quickness need work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopaholic View Post
    Agree with extended shooting range

    Absolutely disagree defense, speed and lateral quickness need work.
    this...it's his ability to guard smaller players that is even getting him looks now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelinZag View Post
    'Bye. The blows just keep on coming.
    Feels that way, Trav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopaholic View Post
    Agree with extended shooting range

    Absolutely disagree defense, speed and lateral quickness need work.
    Outside and FT shooting needs lots of work...just so inconsistent so far.

    He has the defence locked down...

    Besides shooting, he needs to work on using his right hand much more often and one more thought, he would be much more of a threat inside when he is on the block and catches the ball, to just immediately re-act instead of thinking about what he wants to do...PK learned this between his junior and senior years, which is why he was so difficult to defend last season...

    I will say that if he stays in the draft and is taken, that experience would be better for him overall than staying in school, BECAUSE of the personal coaching he would receive from that team's staff. He has skills it is just if they have developed enough for a team to take a chance on him...

    AND am guessing he is being looked at as a SF more than a PF

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