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    Default Seattle Times Article

    Seattle Times Article....

    http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/g...s-on-to-do-it/

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    Is it wrong to want to slap a sportswriter?

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    College basketball may be the most unfair sport out there right now. No matter how much a team excels for the first four months, its whole season can be dismissed by one off game in March.

    And even though Gonzaga has an impeccable résumé, the combination of it playing in the West Coast Conference and never getting past the Elite Eight likely seeped into committee members’ minds.

    But that doesn’t mean this isn’t a great team. Former UW Husky Nigel Williams-Goss is one of the most sound point guards in the country, Polish center Przemek Karnowski (7 feet 1) is one of the most imposing big men, and given how no Zag is projected be taken in next June’s draft, Mark Few is one of the most proficient coaches.

    The strides this program has taken over the past 18 years is immense. It would have been impossible to foresee the Zags as the top-ranked team in all the land for three weeks running.

    Still, it’s hard to start celebrating their achievements just yet. Gonzaga has proved more than most would have imagined, but for it to be considered an elite program, there is still one more thing to prove.
    If slapping him for writing the obvious makes you feel better, go for it.

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    Nothing new here. Glosses over all of the incredible achievements of the program in the past 20 years and dismisses them because Gonzaga hasn't yet (and I stress "yet") reached a FF. It is superficial analysis. Gonzaga has way overachieved and its lack of a FF doesn't diminish its standing as one of the top MBB programs of the 21st Century.

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    Pretty decent article if you ask me. Nothing great, not a ton of research pretty lazy but it's just the typical perception. That's ok by me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    Is it wrong to want to slap a sportswriter?
    Not in this case. But this guy just wrote a column praising Markelle Fultz of the Huskies, he of the matador defense, so it's not exactly like he has the slightest clue about basketball.

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    I wish that every article that speak of us not getting into the final four has to mention our win/loss record in the first round. We have made several upsets in the first round, and an upset (big one) in the second round last year, as has happened frequently. That part is frustrating, b/c for me, nothing is worse than losing in the first round.
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    Perhaps you think this column reeks of disrespect for a team that hasn’t lost since last March. On the contrary. I think holding Gonzaga to the same standard as the Dukes and Kentuckys of the world is as respectful as it gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog View Post
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    Birddog, is it just me or do we have a hunter's mindset going into March this year? The only pressure the Zags seem to be feeling is the need to keep improving day by day.

    Not saying our other teams weren't mentally tough, far from it. This team knows it can win with its defense, lessening the pressure when a few shots in a row don't fall. And look at all the players who have been "tested": NWG & JM (Pac 12), J3 (SEC), Karno-Silas-JP (GU). Our two freshmen were never your typical freshmen. They've played against high level competition, be it AAU or international.

    With the job our coaching staff does, there will be no surprises coming from our next opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieZag View Post
    I wish that every article that speak of us not getting into the final four has to mention our win/loss record in the first round. We have made several upsets in the first round, and an upset (big one) in the second round last year, as has happened frequently. That part is frustrating, b/c for me, nothing is worse than losing in the first round.
    Not getting in is worse, but a writer from Seattle can't/won't say that...very often.
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    The column stated nothing that hasn't appeared in this site often. Not offended by it. Final Four is the monkey on the Zags', and Mark Few's backs. This team can remove that, and I believe and fervently hope they will. More would be delicious gravy. However, the dance is cruel -- anything can, and does happen, except a #16 upsetting a #1 in the first round, which will occur some year. It is difficult to restrain our hopes and expectations (reasonable though they amy be). Winning the whole thing would be marvelous! They'll still have another tournament next year (with a nod to Duane Thomas). The 2016-17 Zags have already established themselves as one of the most memorable teams in GU history. What a ride this has been, and there's more to come! Thanks, gents, and thanks, Mark Few and coaches. Whether the season ends in rapture or dismay, I will hate to see it end. How much fun is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelinZag View Post
    The column stated nothing that hasn't appeared in this site often. Not offended by it. Final Four is the monkey on the Zags', and Mark Few's backs. This team can remove that, and I believe and fervently hope they will. More would be delicious gravy. However, the dance is cruel -- anything can, and does happen, except a #16 upsetting a #1 in the first round, which will occur some year. It is difficult to restrain our hopes and expectations (reasonable though they amy be). Winning the whole thing would be marvelous! They'll still have another tournament next year (with a nod to Duane Thomas). The 2016-17 Zags have already established themselves as one of the most memorable teams in GU history. What a ride this has been, and there's more to come! Thanks, gents, and thanks, Mark Few and coaches. Whether the season ends in rapture or dismay, I will hate to see it end. How much fun is this?

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    Slap him with both hands

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    Since 1999, 31 different teams have made the Final Four. Five of the 31 teams were not from a major conference. It'd be awesome to join that group, but I think that leaves about 320 teams envious of not just our regular season success but GU's tournament success as well. No Virginia, Baylor, Purdue, SMU, Oregon, Saint Mary's, Notre Dame, Iowa State, Florida State, Miami, Cal, etc... And certainly no UW.

    I think the double standard is that somehow GU only making it to the Elite 8 is historical evidence that they can't, but year after year some of the same people pick Baylor or Oregon or Florida State because they are assumed good enough due to conference affiliation. I also wouldn't get too upset, because it appears as though GU is being held up to the standards set by top tier major conference teams. It has to be worse to have all the benefits of major conference affiliation, not make the tournament every year, and never make a final four, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    Not getting in is worse, but a writer from Seattle can't/won't say that...very often.
    Not from Seattle. They hired him a year or so ago to replace either Bud or Jerry Brewer. I think he came from California, and is too young to know much.

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    I'm not sure if getting to the final four is going to make Gonzaga an "elite" program. When I think of "elite," I think of the blue bloods, or the near blue bloods. That takes years of work.

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    I did some googling suspecting he was a UW alum, bitter that we poached NWG, but instead found he is an LMU alumn. Wouldn't hurt for a few of us to call that out in the comments section of that article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zagdontzig View Post
    I did some googling suspecting he was a UW alum, bitter that we poached NWG, but instead found he is an LMU alumn. Wouldn't hurt for a few of us to call that out in the comments section of that article.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-calkins-825a2a10
    Steve Sandmeyer (former Seattle area sports radio guy and huge Zag critic) is also an alum of LMU.

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