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    Default Is there something I'm not seeing? How come I wasn't that impressed with fultz?

    I'm no basketball expert or NBA Scout but I wasn't particularly impressed with fultz (for all the hype), so what's the big deal about this guy anyways? Is it the potential?

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    After watching Fultz highlights again, I can see it. Basically the guy plays like he is exerting little effort in any capacity and scoring at will. Not sure why I didn't notice it as much in the heat of the game. Collins stuff was a thing of beauty though

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C6eeWqQoTQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezag View Post
    I'm no basketball expert or NBA Scout but I wasn't particularly impressed with fultz (for all the hype), so what's the big deal about this guy anyways? Is it the potential?
    I agree with you 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezag View Post
    I'm no basketball expert or NBA Scout but I wasn't particularly impressed with fultz (for all the hype), so what's the big deal about this guy anyways? Is it the potential?
    It has to be the potential. Showed a few dazzling moves, but rarely passed and was nonexistent on defense...a perfect fit for the 76ers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
    It has to be the potential. Showed a few dazzling moves, but rarely passed and was nonexistent on defense...a perfect fit for the 76ers.
    Him and quitter Simmons make a great pair!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    Him and quitter Simmons make a great pair!
    Just my luck the Mavericks will draft him. They had their chance with Olynyk, and they blew it. He would've been a great fit behind Dirk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
    Just my luck the Mavericks will draft him. They had their chance with Olynyk, and they blew it. He would've been a great fit behind Dirk.
    Trust me as a Mavs fan myself that was disappointing wish we kept olynyk!
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    I thought he was very good. He should have had 5-7 assists if anyone on his team could shoot. You guys need to remember that the rest of UWs team is AWFUL. For all the griping about Romar, I think his greatest deficiency is player development. Their offense has 0 flow and Fultz was required to do everything as a 18-19 year old. If I'm an NBA team, I want him. Who knows, maybe I saw things differently than you guys.

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    It's just so hard to tell how good a player is when the entire defense is focused on stopping him, and so few players around him are close to his ability level. Fran had this to say about him last night:

    Fran Fraschilla ‏@franfraschilla · 13h13 hours ago  University Park, TX

    A smart NBA team will track Markelle Fultz's "virtual assists." Those are passes to bad players that would normally be an assist.
    I have to admit.....the phrase "virtual assists" is kind of funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post
    It's just so hard to tell how good a player is when the entire defense is focused on stopping him, and so few players around him are close to his ability level. Fran had this to say about him last night:



    I have to admit.....the phrase "virtual assists" is kind of funny.
    Will Romar start talking about "virtual victories", or Trump building a "virtual wall." Where's George Orwell when you need him? lol

    Stat geeks are salivating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post
    It's just so hard to tell how good a player is when the entire defense is focused on stopping him, and so few players around him are close to his ability level. Fran had this to say about him last night:



    I have to admit.....the phrase "virtual assists" is kind of funny.
    It makes sense to me. You need to have a way to evaluate people playing in a team sport that eliminates differences in teammates.
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    Fultz' biggest mistake was committing to UW in the 1st place. Other than offensive rebounding, I thought the Huskies squad was woefully unprepared for this game. Mr. Romar is in for a v-e-r-y long season. This was my first viewing of Fultz; he'll probably do ok in the NBA but you wouldn't know that from watching him last night.

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    Given his deficient coaching & team, tough to judge, yet i disagree with the OP, Fultz was the most electric, & offensively creative player I've seen this season.

    While I'm more impressed with Lonzo Ball's ability to manage a game/team, Fultz is a next level scorer.

    Has a nice looking stroke & was able to score around Karno, Collins, JW3 in the paint with ease, which earns my vote. His shot wasnt falling early. Took 14 shots in first 10 mins, but once he settled, he became unstoppable.

    Also, 10 rebs for a 18 yr old guard is amazing.

    Has some Russell Westbrook in him. Remember, Westbrook averaged 9ppg his Frosh season at UCLA.

    NBA is about man vs man scoring. Fultz has that and then some.

    He tried to defer but teammates just fumbled it away.

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    After watching the replay this morning, I wonder if some posters mistakenly confused Fultz with Crisp and/or Thybulle.

    I did on a few occasions. They look nearly identical on the court via TV cameras, they each have the same haircut too.

    Fultz is a bit leaner and twice the athlete of either.

    Markelle was a blur with the ball.

    He still put up 25 & 10 (albeit 25 shots) vs a defense designed to stop him.

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    I'm not great at player eval but I can look at numbers (which I realize don't tell the entire story.) 23 points 7 boards and 6 dimes a game (not to mention a block and a half and 2 steals) looks pretty good to me to start the year. Also shooting .500 from the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isongd View Post
    I'm not great at player eval but I can look at numbers (which I realize don't tell the entire story.) 23 points 7 boards and 6 dimes a game (not to mention a block and a half and 2 steals) looks pretty good to me to start the year. Also shooting .500 from the field.
    Exactly.

    Not blind luck this kid is considered a Top 3 pick by every analysts, draft site, & scout on the planet.

    Not just potential, big men are drafted on 'potential' alone.

    6'4" and under guards better be damn good and the real deal to be drafted Top 5.

    Fultz will be an instant scoring threat in NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goshzagit View Post
    Exactly.

    Not blind luck this kid is considered a Top 3 pick by every analysts, draft site, & scout on the planet.

    Not just potential, big men are drafted on 'potential' alone.

    6'4" and under guards better be damn good and the real deal to be drafted Top 5.

    Fultz will be an instant scoring threat in NBA.
    Don't forget those long arms.....

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    He looked like a topnotch athlete. Finished well. He took a lot of shots, but wouldn't you too if you were on that team? He was calm and collected the whole time. Didn't play hurried (Ball@UCLA plays the same way... they look like they are playing slow but they are really going twice as quick). He seemed more disgusted as the game went on. HAS to be regretting his choice. The narrative now will be how they are blowing it with a star on the team. Scouts won't care, naturally, but it will be written about and he'll see it in the papers and read about it online. Probably not the most uplifting thing to have to deal with. He had some misses, but his shots from deep were quick release and dead-eye when he got going. I bet he goes for 40+ in a game this year. You could tell he has vision, but his teammates (his coach, actually) let him down quite a bit.

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    Fultz is a tremendous talent on a bad team. When they got so horribly down early in the game, he had to try to take over the scoring load since no one else could do much outside of Dickerson on the offensive glass. A great talent in a bad situation, and by all accounts a really good kid.

    That said, I'd way rather have Ball, who is imo already the best college guard since Magic Johnson. Mostly responsible for turning a talented but terrible team into a possibly great one.

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    He's a 6'4" point guard who can score. Yes, I think you missed it. That kid is an elite level athlete with good handles and can get his shot any time he wants. He will be an NBA all star. I haven't seen an 18 /19 year old like that in a long time. I think we are a strong defensive team and his stat line with zero help was impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbyspapa View Post
    He's a 6'4" point guard who can score. Yes, I think you missed it. That kid is an elite level athlete with good handles and can get his shot any time he wants. He will be an NBA all star. I haven't seen an 18 /19 year old like that in a long time. I think we are a strong defensive team and his stat line with zero help was impressive.
    and thus the reason I dont watch the NBA anymore......there is only one aspect of the game they care about and protect to the determent of the overall game of basketball

    offense and selfish play is what the NBA represents and to me that destroys the exceptional game of basketball

    but to each their own
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    Physically...extremely gifted. Looks like the real deal to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopaholic View Post
    and thus the reason I dont watch the NBA anymore......there is only one aspect of the game they care about and protect to the determent of the overall game of basketball

    offense and selfish play is what the NBA represents and to me that destroys the exceptional game of basketball

    but to each their own
    The good teams play unselfishly and play defense in the NBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopaholic View Post
    and thus the reason I dont watch the NBA anymore......there is only one aspect of the game they care about and protect to the determent of the overall game of basketball

    offense and selfish play is what the NBA represents and to me that destroys the exceptional game of basketball

    but to each their own
    The NBA plays incredible defense. Offensively there is more ball movement now than there has been in 20 years. The biggest issue with the NBA is none of it really matters until the playoffs so the regular season is incredibly boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
    Will Romar start talking about "virtual victories", or Trump building a "virtual wall." Where's George Orwell when you need him? lol

    Stat geeks are salivating.
    "Virtually" or really salivating?

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    Kid just moves differently. Nothing like I've seen in the 18 yr old groups in a long time. He'll be a pro. Shoots a lot to arrive at his numbers scoring but he does a lot of other things too......like rebounding. Strong and mature kid. It'll be interesting when him and Ball meet up when UW plays UCLA.

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