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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeSilver View Post
    With further explanation, you're not necessarily wrong - you're just making a ridiculous point. Anyone could look at that same data set and conclude that Georgetown is one of the top programs in CBB, as they've made the tournament 5 of the last 7 years, with a protected seed in all but one of those appearance. We at GU are hardly in a position to criticize a program for getting upset in the Tournament, as Scrooner's post shows somewhat clearly.
    I'm making a ridiculous point? My post was in reference to this kid wanting to make a final 4. God bless him and best of luck at Georgetown. I simply put up a post that accurately pointed out that Georgetown's recent history in the tournament was atrocious.
    Also, the data in Scrooner's post was from a different time period that didn't include the last two years.

    Why are you so confrontational on this. I'm merely using data to support my argument.
    I think some people on here have this theory that Gonzaga has horribly underperformed in the tournament. GoZags has posted a few times showing that it's fiction not fact. Certainly some years were bad, but nothing like the last six years at Georgetown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdawg View Post
    Scrooners data is missing 3 Sweet 16's and an elite 8 appearances for the Zags --other than that --pretty much right on.

    Our seeds were 10 (E8), 10 (S16), 12 (S16)and 11 (S16) (also a missing 9 seed when we took down an 8--but that is pretty much a wash).
    So, if I'm not mistaken, three of the years that you're referring to fall before the decade in which the poster was analyzing data, and one was this past year - which obviously could not have been included as the reddit thread is over a year old.

    I'm open for debate about the usefulness of the model that the thread puts forward, but I think its conclusion (that Gonzaga under-performed, relative to it's Tournament seed, between 2005-2015) is completely fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23dpg View Post
    I think some people on here have this theory that Gonzaga has horribly underperformed in the tournament. GoZags has posted a few times showing that it's fiction not fact.
    As with most things, the issue here is not a matter of fact vs. fiction, but a question of the degree to which the perception of Gonzaga's under-performance in the tournament is true. It's certainly true that our reputation for under-performing our seed far exceeds the reality of our tournament performances, but that doesn't erase the tournament losses that informed this general perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeSilver View Post
    So, if I'm not mistaken, three of the years that you're referring to fall before the decade in which the poster was analyzing data, and one was this past year - which obviously could not have been included as the reddit thread is over a year old.

    I'm open for debate about the usefulness of the model that the thread puts forward, but I think its conclusion (that Gonzaga under-performed, relative to it's Tournament seed, between 2005-2015) is completely fair.
    We have agreement. Just a slight alteration. 2005-2014. Data from 2015 wasn't used and would have obviously helped GU. But the data clearly shows underperforming from 2005-2014 relative to seed.

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    I missed the decade window of the post -- I was thinking the actual reality of the run we are on since 1998/99-- carry on with your partial snapshot.

    I agree there is perception and there is fact-- I think there have been number of posts by GoZags to help folks take care of the fact piece of the argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Crazy View Post
    He plays like a wing that would do well at Gonzaga. He's got a nice mix of E-Mac and BW to his play. Good chance he was doing too much, or expecting to do too much. Would be interesting to see how he would fit in where he doesn't have to try to extend himself into everything.
    why did coach get banned after this post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagceo View Post
    why did coach get banned after this post?
    Definitely wasn't for this post.
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    My 2 cents - the reason we are [wrongly] perceived as "Underperforming" in the tournament is that we are there every single year (cool!) and have yet to go on the deep run to the final four. One looks at the other teams that have been every year UNC, Mich State, Kansas, and they have broken through - they're blue bloods, not much to break.

    We, OTOH, are there every year and haven't done it - but I doubt many fans appreciate that generally speaking we're there as a 8 seed or something. Plus, we have 2 of the most notable "underperforming" games in recent history - UCLA and Wichita State.

    For the casual fan, that sticks in their minds more than the fact we actually have over-performed our seed. In fact, I think our record in the first round is simply jaw-dropping. Michigan State might well have contended for the National Championship this year, except they laid an egg in the first round. We don't get nearly enough credit for beating the Seton Halls and Ok States that often line up in our first round game and regularly get tossed aside. It takes a Stephen Curry type to beat us in the first round. It's not quite as satisfying, but I think it's very impressive.
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    One might also look at the list of teams and go, "hmm, that's a pretty good set of teams there". No shame picking a school on this list. It's not like he chose Rutgers.

    Duke
    Notre Dame
    Pittsburgh
    Georgetown
    New Mexico
    Kansas
    Iowa
    Gonzaga
    Vanderbilt
    Clemson

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    Default Amazing accomplishment.

    1995.) #14 seed Gonzaga lost to #3 seed Maryland, 87–63. First round.

    1999.) #10 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Connecticut, 67–62. Elite Eight.

    2000.) #10 seed Gonzaga lost to #6 seed Purdue, 75–66. Sweet Sixteen.

    2001.) #12 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Michigan State, 77–62. Sweet Sixteen.

    2002.) #6 seed Gonzaga lost to #11 seed Wyoming, 73–66. Round of 64.

    2003.) #9 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Arizona, 96–95 OT. Round of 32.

    2004.) #2 seed Gonzaga lost to #10 seed Nevada, 91–72. Round of 32.

    2005.) #3 seed Gonzaga lost to #6 seed Texas Tech, 71–69. Round of 32.

    2006.) #3 seed Gonzaga lost to #2 seed UCLA, 73–71. Sweet Sixteen.

    2007.) #10 seed Gonzaga lost to #7 seed Indiana, 70–57. Round of 64.

    2008.) #7 seed Gonzaga lost to #10 seed Davidson, 82–76. Round of 64.

    2009.) #4 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed North Carolina, 98–77. Sweet Sixteen.

    2010.) #8 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Syracuse, 87–65. Round of 32.

    2011.) #11 seed Gonzaga lost to #3 seed BYU, 89–67. Round of 32.

    2012.) #7 seed Gonzaga lost to #2 seed Ohio State, 73–66. Round of 32.

    2013.) #1 seed Gonzaga lost to #9 seed Wichita State, 76–70. Round of 32.

    2014.) #8 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Arizona, 84–61. Round of 32.

    2015.) #2 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Duke, 66–52. Elite Eight.

    2016.) #11 seed Gonzaga lost to #10 seed Syracuse, 63–60. Sweet Sixteen.

    Out of 19 tournaments, Gonzaga has only lost 5 times to an inferior seed. I think that's an outstanding accomplishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagaZags View Post
    1995.) #14 seed Gonzaga lost to #3 seed Maryland, 87–63. First round.

    1999.) #10 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Connecticut, 67–62. Elite Eight.

    2000.) #10 seed Gonzaga lost to #6 seed Purdue, 75–66. Sweet Sixteen.

    2001.) #12 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Michigan State, 77–62. Sweet Sixteen.

    2002.) #6 seed Gonzaga lost to #11 seed Wyoming, 73–66. Round of 64.

    2003.) #9 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Arizona, 96–95 OT. Round of 32.

    2004.) #2 seed Gonzaga lost to #10 seed Nevada, 91–72. Round of 32.

    2005.) #3 seed Gonzaga lost to #6 seed Texas Tech, 71–69. Round of 32.

    2006.) #3 seed Gonzaga lost to #2 seed UCLA, 73–71. Sweet Sixteen.

    2007.) #10 seed Gonzaga lost to #7 seed Indiana, 70–57. Round of 64.

    2008.) #7 seed Gonzaga lost to #10 seed Davidson, 82–76. Round of 64.

    2009.) #4 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed North Carolina, 98–77. Sweet Sixteen.

    2010.) #8 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Syracuse, 87–65. Round of 32.

    2011.) #11 seed Gonzaga lost to #3 seed BYU, 89–67. Round of 32.

    2012.) #7 seed Gonzaga lost to #2 seed Ohio State, 73–66. Round of 32.

    2013.) #1 seed Gonzaga lost to #9 seed Wichita State, 76–70. Round of 32.

    2014.) #8 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Arizona, 84–61. Round of 32.

    2015.) #2 seed Gonzaga lost to #1 seed Duke, 66–52. Elite Eight.

    2016.) #11 seed Gonzaga lost to #10 seed Syracuse, 63–60. Sweet Sixteen.

    Out of 19 tournaments, Gonzaga has only lost 5 times to an inferior seed. I think that's an outstanding accomplishment.
    And if I counted correctly, 8 times they've beaten a higher seed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webspinnre View Post
    Definitely wasn't for this post.
    In think it's a Lifetime Achievement ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrooner View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBask...nd_conference/

    Worst performances by team over the past decade (relative to their seed):
    Rank Total Team
    1 -7.4 Duke
    2 -5 Notre Dame
    3 -4.975 Pittsburgh
    4 -4.65 Georgetown
    5 -4.45 New Mexico
    6 -3.725 Kansas
    7 -3.7 Iowa
    8 -3.45 Gonzaga
    9 -3.125 Vanderbilt
    10 -3.05 Clemson
    Only data we need is who's made the tournament each of the past SEVEN years AND won AT LEAST one game. Can you name all the teams? I can. One is Kansas, the other is wait, Gonzaga ? We don't suck? Heck yeah !
    Qualified for 22 Straight Big Dances

    11 Straight Round of 32s

    10 Sweet Sixteens (5 Straight)

    4 Elite Eights

    2017 FINAL FOUR

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    The Best Point Guard to ever play the game: John Stockton, most assists, most steals.

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    I love gossip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by webspinnre View Post
    And if I counted correctly, 8 times they've beaten a higher seed.
    10.

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    Default Alec Peters

    I think Alec Peters will become a Grad Transfer and be available immediately. My guess is he doesn't get invited to the NBA combine and then transfers out of Valpo (Skara also just left). Will he go to Vanderbilt? Maybe since Jones left. However assuming AP becomes available he would be the best Grad Transfer on the market out of them all. He wouldn't replace Domas but he could give us a legit shot at a FF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValencyLovesZagsInAtlanta View Post
    I think Alec Peters will become a Grad Transfer and be available immediately. My guess is he doesn't get invited to the NBA combine and then transfers out of Valpo (Skara also just left). Will he go to Vanderbilt? Maybe since Jones left. However assuming AP becomes available he would be the best Grad Transfer on the market out of them all. He wouldn't replace Domas but he could give us a legit shot at a FF.
    Yeah, but you'd think he'd be a lock to follow Bryce Drew down to Vandy.

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    Any further word on Pryor? When I left, he was still thinking of us vs GTown.

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    He committed to Georgetown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDABE80 View Post
    Any further word on Pryor? When I left, he was still thinking of us vs GTown.
    Committed to Georgetown

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    Yeah, but you'd think he'd be a lock to follow Bryce Drew down to Vandy.
    Ya I hear you but..........sometimes when there is a new coach (Valpo that was on his staff) there could be a little goodwill towards each other and poaching the player may not happen. Even if he was a Vandy lean (good academics ect...) I think we could get in the mix for a visit. I think the 4 spot is his if he comes and actually transfers.

    Thoughts????

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    Not sure we really need another big-- although the guy is a great talent.
    Last edited by Zagdawg; 04-21-2016 at 05:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdawg View Post
    Not sure we really need another big-- although the guy is a great talent.
    Not so sure about that.

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    We need a very good big to join us. Guards will be fine this year under experienced leadership. Bigs? Less so. Honestly, I hope Collins sticks for a few years. Shem's decent as a player......I hope he sticks with us . BUT Collins and Williams will be carrying the load.

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    Decent? C'mon doc...
    Go Zags!!!

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