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    Looks like Spike Lee needs a new team to root for... Previously rooted for UCLA, Georgetown and now VCU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    Looks like Spike Lee needs a new team to root for... Previously rooted for UCLA, Georgetown and now VCU.
    Did he finally give up on the Knicks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagaZags View Post
    Did he finally give up on the Knicks?
    He stated he "hasn't watched as much Knicks games this year, and doesn't have season tickets" wonder why?
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    VCU will now go back to mid major mediocrity.

    To all of us who were Zags prior to 1999, this is yet another example of why we are living in a sports dream.

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    Once more, with feeling: thank goodness for Mark Few.

    Is the air gonna come out of the balloon at VCU? Maybe, maybe not...who knows? But I'm glad we're not gonna have to find out if it would at GU without Coach Few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclubfounder View Post
    VCU will now go back to mid major mediocrity.

    To all of us who were Zags prior to 1999, this is yet another example of why we are living in a sports dream.
    Has a shrine to Mark Few been built in downtown Spokane yet? Can we immediately offer to triple his salary? Whatever he wants...has to know how much we appreciate and love him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegloriousgoateeofKP View Post
    Has a shrine to Mark Few been built in downtown Spokane yet? Can we immediately offer to triple his salary? Whatever he wants...has to know how much we appreciate and love him.
    What really is amazing is marks background. I cannot remember how many exact years but I do believe his father was behind the same pulpit at his church for 50+ years. That gives me all the comfort I need to know he's not leaving
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    What really is amazing is marks background. I cannot remember how many exact years but I do believe his father was behind the same bullpit at his church for 50+ years. That gives me all the comfort I need to know he's not leaving
    Bullpit? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by adoptedzag View Post
    Bullpit? lol
    Dang it you should know what I meant. dang autocorrect. Pulpit. Guess I type too fast. EDIT: That would be pretty weird, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzagafan62 View Post
    What really is amazing is marks background. I cannot remember how many exact years but I do believe his father was behind the same pulpit at his church for 50+ years. That gives me all the comfort I need to know he's not leaving
    Yeah, agreed. I'm not worried in the slightest. I was really young, though, during the early years of his tenure...anyone care to lend some perspective about what it was like? Were we fans constantly on edge once every season ended?

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    ESPN's story on Coach Smart's move:

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...onghorns-coach

    Smart's compensation this year adds up to $1.8 million. By leaving before May 1, he will owe VCU a $500,000 buyout, and his contract also contains a provision that if he becomes the head coach at another institution, that school would have to play VCU in a home-and-home series or pay VCU $250,000.

    Barnes' salary this season was $2.62 million.
    I'm guessing Smart will get $2.75MM / yr. Too low ?


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    This guy is going to elevate Texas basketball. He is a tireless worker and a dynamic personality. He will have to consider how much he wants to emphasize his full court pressing system from VCU. You can win a lot of games with that sort of thing, but it ultimately doesn't work when facing the best teams who have guards who can destroy it (see West Virginia/Kentucky). My best guess is that once he starts landing 5 star players, he will chuck it as a "system."

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    I don't know that VCU is going to disappear now. They were good before Smart was coaching. Anthony Grant had a nice stint there. So did Jeff Capel. Xavier has stayed relevant thru probably their last 5 coaches. It's unique that Few has stayed at Gonzaga so long, but the idea that a mid major program IS the coach and as soon as he leaves the program collapses is wrong.

    We'll see how this works out. The aforementioned Grant was supposed to be a great hire at Alabama, didn't work out. Come to think of it Capel flopped at Oklahoma, too. Maybe hiring young up and comers from VCU is a bad idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclubfounder View Post
    VCU will now go back to mid major mediocrity.

    To all of us who were Zags prior to 1999, this is yet another example of why we are living in a sports dream.
    Yup
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    I heard/read a couple of days ago that Texas was looking to hire Smart. They said the back-up plan was to go for Krystowiak at Utah if Smart said no.

    Is Texas a better coaching job than Pac 12 Utah? Doesn't seem like it to me! I know that Krystowiak jumped frpm Montana to Utah, but thats Big Sky to Pac 12, I can see that. Just doesn't seem to me that Texas is better than Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post

    Is Texas a better coaching job than Pac 12 Utah? Doesn't seem like it to me!
    I would say so. Utah has had some good teams and gets some pub once in a while, but they don't have the national fan base that Texas enjoys, the constant media attention, or the resources. Texas has been kind of down lately, but they've only themselves to blame. How they don't contend with Kansas for 1st place in the B12 every year blows my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seacatfan View Post
    I don't know that VCU is going to disappear now. They were good before Smart was coaching. Anthony Grant had a nice stint there. So did Jeff Capel. Xavier has stayed relevant thru probably their last 5 coaches. It's unique that Few has stayed at Gonzaga so long, but the idea that a mid major program IS the coach and as soon as he leaves the program collapses is wrong.

    We'll see how this works out. The aforementioned Grant was supposed to be a great hire at Alabama, didn't work out. Come to think of it Capel flopped at Oklahoma, too. Maybe hiring young up and comers from VCU is a bad idea?
    Since 1985 VCU has won a grand total of one NCAA tournament games when Smart was not the coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclubfounder View Post
    Since 1985 VCU has won a grand total of one NCAA tournament games when Smart was not the coach.
    As an 11 seed vs Duke, IIRC.... Eric MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by willandi View Post
    I heard/read a couple of days ago that Texas was looking to hire Smart. They said the back-up plan was to go for Krystowiak at Utah if Smart said no.

    Is Texas a better coaching job than Pac 12 Utah? Doesn't seem like it to me! I know that Krystowiak jumped frpm Montana to Utah, but thats Big Sky to Pac 12, I can see that. Just doesn't seem to me that Texas is better than Utah.
    JMO, but I'd say Texas is better by quite a bit. The vast talent pool alone is impressive. Since football is king, you can operate a little more freely too. Barnes got a couple extra years because of that, again IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog View Post
    JMO, but I'd say Texas is better by quite a bit. The vast talent pool alone is impressive. Since football is king, you can operate a little more freely too. Barnes got a couple extra years because of that, again IMO.
    I agree also have endowment advantage …….$3 B vs $ 844 m

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    Thanks. I was just wondering. I'm sure the coach would be paid substantially more too, and when you only have a few million, you have to rack up as much as you can, as fast as you can. Never know when the pipeline will dry up!

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    Is Texas a better coaching job than Pac 12 Utah? Doesn't seem like it to me! I know that Krystowiak jumped frpm Montana to Utah, but thats Big Sky to Pac 12, I can see that. Just doesn't seem to me that Texas is better than Utah.
    In the words of one famous college basketball analyst, Texas is the best D-1 men's basketball coaching job that there is. Why?

    1) Unlimited resources for coaching salaries, recruiting budgets, etc. Big time money.

    2) More talented players come out of the state of Texas than any other. Easy recruiting for 4 and 5 star players.

    3) Best strength and conditioning program in the country

    4) First rate facilities

    5) Minimal pressure. Rick Barnes lasted 17 years.

    6) Tremendous city to live.

    Texas is a football school, but it actually makes the basketball job more appealing. The fans and boosters want to win ....but they just don't care about the sport. That's the strength of the job. Despite the fact that Kentucky is undefeated at the final four, their crazy fans are still picking apart every decision Calipari makes, every lineup he puts out, every timeout that he calls. It's constantly scrutiny. At Texas they leave you alone so long as you win. They don't care about the minute details.

    You can compete for national championships and top 15 players at Texas. Even after taking Utah to the national title game, Majerus was never able to elevate the program beyond where he had it. Only so many kids want to go there, and I don't know how much their Pac 12 affiliation is going to change that. Maybe a little.

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    Here's a take on it from John Canzano:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/ore...as_no_ide.html

    I wonder if Patterson has had an effect on Texas' lack of success.

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    I believe it is now called VC-Who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongIslandZagFan View Post
    I believe it is now called VC-Who?
    One thing that might keep them afloat is their conference, and that it will still be a little easier to recruit than it would be if they were still in the CAA. I guess that's te lone bright spot. Although that conference is pretty tough, so it might take a little while with a new coach. They might be ok.
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