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    Default The 4-Game Homestand - 21, 31, 18, 18

    Those are the winning margins, and they could've been more. Just something to chew on for a while.

    Carry on.
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    We are in a good spot no doubt. Just need to keep fine tuning. That announcer guy was praising Few for his end game coaching when it was over. He was trying to fine tune.

    Have a great day BZ !

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    Gonzaga has lead almost every minute of every game, led start to finish in many of them, and never trailed for even a significant portion of any game (esp in the 2nd half; a few minutes at BYU and Arizona, maybe one more).

    This is unprecedented and likely not to be repeated. Enjoy it while you can.

    Headline: Worst 18 point win > Best 18 loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValencyLovesZagsInAtlanta View Post
    We are in a good spot no doubt. Just need to keep fine tuning. That announcer guy was praising Few for his end game coaching when it was over. He was trying to fine tune.

    Have a great day BZ !
    I'm all for stretching and flexibility (Ichiro was renowned for this), but that avatar hurts to look at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobZag View Post
    Those are the winning margins, and they could've been more. Just something to chew on for a while.

    Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 23dpg View Post
    Gonzaga has lead almost every minute of every game, led start to finish in many of them, and never trailed for even a significant portion of any game (esp in the 2nd half; a few minutes at BYU and Arizona, maybe one more).

    This is unprecedented and likely not to be repeated. Enjoy it while you can.

    Headline: Worst 18 point win > Best 18 loss.
    It is truly amazing that the only significant period in which we've played from behind is that 8 minute span at BYU. And, we answered the bell there.

    For some reason, I'm not all that worried about this team responding to the mental toughness required when we eventually do face those tough periods when behind or trading leads.

    I tried to think about differences between this team and the 2013 team, looking for improvements and I think there are some, though we have no one as dominant as Olynick was that year.

    - Karno is at a completely new level and really can't be stopped if catches down low.
    - Domis and his motor give us more rebounding than even Elias
    - Bell is healthy
    - Pangos/Bell are now 4 year starters, been there.
    - Wiltjer, been there, dead-eye
    -Wes, been there.
    -Mac - Defense/speed.

    I think this team is way ahead of the 2013 team and is why the word "Legitimate" keeps popping up, as if it is a refutation of the last time we got a one seed.

    We're spoiled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobZag View Post
    I'm all for stretching and flexibility (Ichiro was renowned for this), but that avatar hurts to look at.
    Ichiro WAS renowned? He's not dead, he just plays for the Marlins now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnyZag View Post
    He's not dead, he just plays for the Marlins now.
    Same thing


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    Some of the stuff the team was doing in the final 8 minutes last night was driving Coach Few nuts. Just as Calhoun said on the broadcast, you have to be attentive to details in games that are in the bank because you can start picking up bad habits that can hurt your later on. The inattentive rebounding, stalls on offense, and more importantly, the terrible handling of Memphis' press, are all things that GU let get out of hand due to a lack of focus.

    Gonzaga was fortunate that they were so much better than Memphis last night that the Tigers couldn't past the double digit barrier, but what's going to happen when the next UCLA, Texas Tech or Davidson comes around in March? Those teams will not only keep playing hard like Memphis did, but they will have the talent and togetherness to make it a ball game again.

    As I keep saying, this team needs to learn to compete against itself. "The lead is now 25, let's see if we can get it to 32 in the next 4 minutes," etc. "Memphis is shooting 35% from floor right now, let's see if we can get them below 30% in the next 10 minutes, etc."

    Even great teams should always find ways to get better. The danger with a team like this year's team is complacency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post
    Some of the stuff the team was doing in the final 8 minutes last night was driving Coach Few nuts. Just as Calhoun said on the broadcast, you have to be attentive to details in games that are in the bank because you can start picking up bad habits that can hurt your later on. The inattentive rebounding, stalls on offense, and more importantly, the terrible handling of Memphis' press, are all things that GU let get out of hand due to a lack of focus.

    Gonzaga was fortunate that they were so much better than Memphis last night that the Tigers couldn't past the double digit barrier, but what's going to happen when the next UCLA, Texas Tech or Davidson comes around in March? Those teams will not only keep playing hard like Memphis did, but they will have the talent and togetherness to make it a ball game again.

    As I keep saying, this team needs to learn to compete against itself. "The lead is now 25, let's see if we can get it to 32 in the next 4 minutes," etc. "Memphis is shooting 35% from floor right now, let's see if we can get them below 30% in the next 10 minutes, etc."

    Even great teams should always find ways to get better. The danger with a team like this year's team is complacency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoZag View Post
    Same thing
    Cmon now, coached by a Zag. Movin' on up.

    No one goes to their games, but they are going to put a decent product on the field this year.
    This post is for March Madness seeding purposes only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnyZag View Post
    Ichiro WAS renowned? He's not dead, he just plays for the Marlins now.
    I can't help but think of a Monty Python movie. "I'm not dead yet. I'm feeling bettuh."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post

    As I keep saying, this team needs to learn to compete against itself. "The lead is now 25, let's see if we can get it to 32 in the next 4 minutes," etc. "Memphis is shooting 35% from floor right now, let's see if we can get them below 30% in the next 10 minutes, etc."
    LOL, about as unrealistic as it gets. When GU had a 24 point lead and Melson made the steal to give Pangos an open jumper, the MAC was rocking and the players were on adrenaline overload. Not one player in 1000 in a similar situation (throughout my basketball watching decades, at least) would be thinking in such terms. Or thinking much at all. They're just in a zone.

    GU was never in any danger and the players knew it. Earlier on, it once got down to 15, but then spurted back to 22 with easy looks. Players relaxed again. Then Few sat down Karnowski around the 5:00 minute mark. The basket was left unprotected and not well rebounded. After getting down to 13, PK came in with 2+ minutes to go and order was re-established. The guys again played like the other times they were building a lead.

    Perfectionists will always be unhappy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasontixholder View Post
    LOL, about as unrealistic as it gets. When GU had a 24 point lead and Melson made the steal to give Pangos an open jumper, the MAC was rocking and the players were on adrenaline overload. Not one player in 1000 in a similar situation (throughout my basketball watching decades, at least) would be thinking in such terms. Or thinking much at all. They're just in a zone.

    GU was never in any danger and the players knew it. Earlier on, it once got down to 15, but then spurted back to 22 with easy looks. Players relaxed again. Then Few sat down Karnowski around the 5:00 minute mark. The basket was left unprotected and not well rebounded. After getting down to 13, PK came in with 2+ minutes to go and order was re-established. The guys again played like the other times they were building a lead.

    Perfectionists will always be unhappy.
    We can't afford to let down like on the road or in March. Anyway, that's how I interpret The BZ Challenge.

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    4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstock12 View Post
    4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstock12 View Post
    4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
    Yesterdays Powerball numbers?
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    LOL, about as unrealistic as it gets. When GU had a 24 point lead and Melson made the steal to give Pangos an open jumper, the MAC was rocking and the players were on adrenaline overload. Not one player in 1000 in a similar situation (throughout my basketball watching decades, at least) would be thinking in such terms. Or thinking much at all. They're just in a zone.

    GU was never in any danger and the players knew it. Earlier on, it once got down to 15, but then spurted back to 22 with easy looks. Players relaxed again. Then Few sat down Karnowski around the 5:00 minute mark. The basket was left unprotected and not well rebounded. After getting down to 13, PK came in with 2+ minutes to go and order was re-established. The guys again played like the other times they were building a lead.

    Perfectionists will always be unhappy.
    I would suggest reading Jerry Tarkanian's autobiography and how he used to keep his teams motivated in the Big West and PCAA. It's not about perfection. It's about maintaining sharpness and getting better when you are playing competition that is inferior to you. You do that by playing a complete (but by no means flawless) 40 minutes, competing against yourself, setting your own goals, and not allowing the opponent to drag you down. You don't do it by becoming unfocused and losing track of what it is you need to do to get better. I'm sure this was pointed out to the players after the game. Few wasn't happy on the sideline near the end of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog View Post
    Yesterdays Powerball numbers?
    Fibonacci numbers?
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
    Mark Twain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstock12 View Post
    4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
    You lost me.

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    The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 frequently recurred in the movie Lost. Each corresponded with one of the final candidates to replace Jacob as protector of the Island. The numbers also formed the coefficients in an equation that predicted mankind's extinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post
    Some of the stuff the team was doing in the final 8 minutes last night was driving Coach Few nuts. Just as Calhoun said on the broadcast, you have to be attentive to details in games that are in the bank because you can start picking up bad habits that can hurt your later on. The inattentive rebounding, stalls on offense, and more importantly, the terrible handling of Memphis' press, are all things that GU let get out of hand due to a lack of focus.

    Gonzaga was fortunate that they were so much better than Memphis last night that the Tigers couldn't past the double digit barrier, but what's going to happen when the next UCLA, Texas Tech or Davidson comes around in March? Those teams will not only keep playing hard like Memphis did, but they will have the talent and togetherness to make it a ball game again.

    As I keep saying, this team needs to learn to compete against itself. "The lead is now 25, let's see if we can get it to 32 in the next 4 minutes," etc. "Memphis is shooting 35% from floor right now, let's see if we can get them below 30% in the next 10 minutes, etc."

    Even great teams should always find ways to get better. The danger with a team like this year's team is complacency.
    ...and that's why the wcc is a major hurdle to overcome in terms of a final four run...and i also think it's a hurdle that few hasn't figured out yet, but i'm hoping he's actively trying to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdawg View Post
    The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 frequently recurred in the movie Lost. Each corresponded with one of the final candidates to replace Jacob as protector of the Island. The numbers also formed the coefficients in an equation that predicted mankind's extinction.
    And that show turned out to be the biggest waste of time in my life. Luckily that will never happen to me with the Zags (winning is more fun though).
    Go Zags!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post
    I would suggest reading Jerry Tarkanian's autobiography and how he used to keep his teams motivated in the Big West and PCAA. It's not about perfection. It's about maintaining sharpness and getting better when you are playing competition that is inferior to you. You do that by playing a complete (but by no means flawless) 40 minutes, competing against yourself, setting your own goals, and not allowing the opponent to drag you down. You don't do it by becoming unfocused and losing track of what it is you need to do to get better. I'm sure this was pointed out to the players after the game. Few wasn't happy on the sideline near the end of the game.
    And I would suggest that you set aside coachspeak to understand why runs (followed by fallbacks) happen in BB games, or the other action sports for that matter.

    Teams turn superhuman in spurts driven by adrenaline rushes; rushes that invariably are followed by adrenaline crashes. For a few minutes, performance is a sight to behold ... that is, until the opposing coach calls a timeout to let the adrenaline subside.

    A coach can attempt to preach peak or efficient performance till blue in the face, but if the majority of the players left on the court afterwards have tanks somewhat empty, then no amount of tutoring will help them perform efficiently. The resulting play is less cerebral and more primal, and even the very best teams become vulnerable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobZag View Post
    I'm all for stretching and flexibility (Ichiro was renowned for this), but that avatar hurts to look at.
    Hurts in a good way though if that's possible right? I do it more for the spiritual benefits than anything. I just proud of the practice with the same passion as Christy Turlington. Maybe im an idiot for using it as an avatar on a MB but maybe I can inspire just 1 person? Is that u? These are the same yoga pants that got recalled...lol

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