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    Quote Originally Posted by rijman View Post
    I'm very happy for KO going 13th, good for him. Not thrilled with him going to a rebuilding team that also traded away their coach. Hopefully KO will get lots of PT and the Celtics turn it around sooner rather than later.
    I agree.

    The Celtics were my inherited team once the Sonics moved. It would have been nice to see KO get a year playing and learning under Garnett. But, the three #1 draft picks that Ainge got will help them rebuild pretty quickly.

    I also fully expect Ainge to trade Rondo before the next draft which will allow him to make a run at Andrew Wiggins. With KO, Sullinger and Fab that will give them a decent core that can develop together. With all those extra #1 picks I'm hoping that their rebuild mode won't be very long and/or painful.

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    Congrats to Kelly... I was excited when he was drafted by Dallas (and then bummed when he was traded) because I thought he could be tutored by Dirk Nowitzki - who's career and skillset would be great for Olynk to mimic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CdAZagFan View Post
    Congrats to Kelly... I was excited when he was drafted by Dallas (and then bummed when he was traded) because I thought he could be tutored by Dirk Nowitzki - who's career and skillset would be great for Olynk to mimic.
    Me too. Then I was excited that he would be able to play with Garnett and Pierce. THEN I was bummed because now he is left with no HOF mentor big man to guide him.

    Still stoked though. Boston is his town now and they are passionate about their teams!



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    Tell your boys KO isn't a center at the next level.
    This post is for March Madness seeding purposes only.

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    Given what difference we saw in KO in one year, Zagco would be a bit reticent as a neutral Celtics fan to feel like his upside is not real high. It could be we are just one year into his transformation/maturity. With the right kind of development, perhaps KO will continue to grow into his position. This could be a real steal of a pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75Zag View Post

    PS - Kelly, please cut your hair. The Morrison look is bad karma for you and GU.
    Would you be satisfied if he just stays off your lawn? Because that would be a reasonable request, considering that it is YOUR lawn and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPtheBeasta View Post
    Pau Gasol, Dirk Nowitski, Zach Randolph: none of these guys have athleticism. Heck, neither Paul Pierce or Garnet score their points by being athletic. Give Kelly a chance.

    With the big trade of Pierce and Garnet it looks like Kelly will likely get his chance right away. I think you play him at the four and let him focus on his offense. Put a defensive-minded center on the floor beside him. Kelly's strength would seem to be using his height and skills against a power forward, as this would remediate some of his lack of athleticism and shorter arms. You also don't typically expect or want your center stepping out and shooting threes. It doesn't make sense to play Kelly regularly as a 5, to me.

    I think the bigger issue for the Celtics is the bull-headed and injured Rajon Rondo. There are reports by SI that Doc Rivers tried to go to blows with him in the locker room and that their animosity towards each other is the reason Rondo has been on the trade block for the past two years. Seeing the Rivers trade and Rondo's demeanor on the court, I tend to believe the stories.
    1. Randolph and Dirk don't protect the rim either. Dirk needed Chandler to win the championship. Dirk is also one of the best offensive players ever so it doesn't make sense to say look at Dirk, Kelly could become that kind of player. Could Kelly score points against bench units? Of course. It makes sense to give him a lot of touches per minute when he is in because he won't be in there for his defense.

    2. Kelly could maybe be a stretch four but a lot of pfs are much quicker than he is.

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasZagFan View Post
    Kelly's had one actual season's worth of work playing inside. Give him another year to get stronger and get used to the grind of an 82 game schedule.

    He's already dynamite on the open floor. With a PG like Rondo, take advantage of it.
    Time isn't going to make his arms longer or make him more athletic. He is already skilled and doesn't need to put on much more weight or he will become slower. If he runs the floor with Rondo he can get some easy buckets but a Rondo Kelly P&R is not a great play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robzagnut View Post
    KO has only had one year as a starter and look at what he accomplished. He is only going to get better, much better. He’s a hard worker and once he’s had another year or two working on his post game, he is going to shine, because that will allow him to play inside or out depending on matchups. He wants to get better and puts in the time. You can’t teach his ability to make a pass and his ability to see the floor. Not many 7 footers were point guards.

    When he gets the ball at the free throw line he is fun to watch. He can drive, hit the shot, make an entry pass, pick & pop, or hit the open cutter. He is a player that makes others around him better. Finally, he is smart. He’s already got his degree and was working on his Masters. Trading up to get him was a smart move by Ainge as he wasn’t going to be there at the 16th pick.

    What team wouldn’t want a highly intelligent 7 footer, who shoots with range that has point guard passing skills standing at the free throw line with the ball in his hand? The NBA is about matchups and he will create problems.
    Kelly averaged more turnovers last year than assists. He's no Marc Gasol passing wise.

    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    Tell your boys KO isn't a center at the next level.
    You realize guys like Rudy Gay, Lebron, Melo, etc, play the four now? They are too quick for KO to guard.

    Like I said the pick is a safe one as Kelly was one of the most likely players in the draft to become a rotation guy. But imo he was also one of the least likely to develop into a star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonzagfan View Post
    1. Randolph and Dirk don't protect the rim either. Dirk needed Chandler to win the championship. Dirk is also one of the best offensive players ever so it doesn't make sense to say look at Dirk, Kelly could become that kind of player. Could Kelly score points against bench units? Of course. It makes sense to give him a lot of touches per minute when he is in because he won't be in there for his defense.

    2. Kelly could maybe be a stretch four but a lot of pfs are much quicker than he is.



    Time isn't going to make his arms longer or make him more athletic. He is already skilled and doesn't need to put on much more weight or he will become slower. If he runs the floor with Rondo he can get some easy buckets but a Rondo Kelly P&R is not a great play.



    Kelly averaged more turnovers last year than assists. He's no Marc Gasol passing wise.



    You realize guys like Rudy Gay, Lebron, Melo, etc, play the four now? They are too quick for KO to guard.

    Like I said the pick is a safe one as Kelly was one of the most likely players in the draft to become a rotation guy. But imo he was also one of the least likely to develop into a star.
    Kelly won't be asked to do as much with the ball, so his turnovers shouldn't be as much of an issue. In addition, guys like Gay, Bron, and Melo do not play the 4 on a regular basis, only certain situations. Kelly will be just fine running at the 4, and his pick and roll with rondo will be deadly. Time could very much make him more athletic. Maybe you aren't familiar with the transformation he made in only one year but it was quite substantial. Give him NBA trainers, weight rooms, and nutrition plans and you're almost guaranteed a more athletic player in time.

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    KO to Boston...who'd have thunk it?

    Congratulations Kelly

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    Congrats to Kelly. I was so excited to see him go to Boston. I couldn't be happier. I have been a Celtic fan since my childhood. Players like Bob Cousey, Casey Jones and John Havlicek helped make me the player I was. And for being a winner Bill Russel was my role model. Who could ever forget his battles with Wilt Chamberlin. And in my adult years how can I ever repay Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Dennis Johnson, and Robert Parrish for all the joy they brought me.

    It is time for the Celtics to rebuild and I am glad that Kelly has a chance to bea part of it. I think he is much better than some posters here think. If you listened to much of the predraft hoopla yesterday you would have gotten a sense of how well Kelly was perceived in this year's draft. He is very well liked and respected. Kelly Olynyk is a very unique offensive player, and no one in my opinion, was able to stop him this year. I believe that Kelly is a piece of the puzzle as the Celtics rebuild the team, and I for one am proud of him for earning that opportunity. IMO he will be a very good NBA player and I'm exited for him.

    The last player to help the recruiting efforts by the staff was Morrison. N now we have Kelly. His being a lotto pick will certainly help bring in some elite recruits at the post positions. GU coaches have proven that they can prepare a high school player to play in the NBA,as well as in Europe. Kelly will always be remembered in my opinion as The Great Surprise. He caught us all off guard, and almost none of us ever expected to see the great player that he was last year. I saw him live just once last year, and he is unbelievably so much better live. His first step is just so HUGH, which made him unstoppable when he got the ball at the foul line, facing a one on one situation.

    Thanks for all the joy you brought to my family, Kelly. Good luck!

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    Certainly fortunate for you, Bostonzagfan, that with KO coming in, Pierce and Garnett traded, you won't feel the need to waste money on tickets.

    Personally, I think that KO will prove to be a very servicable 4 in the NBA. With a few breaks he could become similar to Dirk, but at the very least he will be a journeyman player, and last for several years. Could I be wrong? Of course, but, as a Zag fan, and after what I saw last year, I believe he will continue to improve and become a very good, if not great, player for many years.

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    Default Kelly Draft Night Party Video on Krem2

    http://www.krem.com/sports

    Click on the video in the upper left.

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    Thanks for the video link, granny! I was hoping to see some draft night video of KO.

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    Default Warning: Bleacher Report Article on Kelly and the Celtics

    Mostly positive views on Kelly.

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    Forecasting Kelly Olynyk's Stat Line for His Rookie Season

    BY RICHARD LANGFORD (FEATURED COLUMNIST) ON JUNE 28, 2013 2,112 reads 22
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    Kelly Olynyk will ride his limited athleticism to a long and productive NBA career.

    The long-haired center from Gonzaga was originally selected 13th overall by the Dallas Mavericks in Thursday night's draft, but he quickly made his way to Boston.

    The Celtics tweeted the news:

    The Boston Celtics acquired the draft rights to Kelly Olynyk and Colton Iverson during Thursday night's NBA Draft: http://on.nba.com/11MDGMh

    Of course, those weren't the only draft-day deals Boston was swinging. The Celtics made headlines with this trade tweeted by Pro Basketball Talk's Kurt Helin:

    Kevin Garnett agrees to deal that will send him and Paul Pierce to the Nets http://dlvr.it/3ZltGc
    11:15 PM - 27 Jun 2013

    Obviously, as that trade screams, this is a franchise in transition. Olynyk has a golden opportunity to cement himself as a key part of that rebuilding process.

    Also, with the suddenly wide open front line in Boston, he should get ample opportunity for minutes in his rookie season. He will be productive in those minutes.

    I'll break down his game, but here is what to expect from Olynyk in his maiden year in the NBA.

    Kelly Olynyk's Projected Rookie Stat Line

    26.5 minutes, 10.2 points, 3.8 rebounds and 3.1 assists

    More at the link, including a video. Some of the comments are toxic.

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    I love that KO was drafted at the lucky 13 spot. Lots of money for him and his family (and agent) and, hopefully, some much needed increased respect for the GU program at the NBA level. KO is in a unique position on the Boston team. They have traded away much of their aging NBA talent, which opens up some great opportunities for young players like KO.

    I am hopeful - but not entirely confident - that KO may be GU's 2nd "Impact Player" in the NBA. Stockton was wonderful, but it has been a very long time since a GU player was regularly talked about as being a major impact in the NBA.

    Positive karma to KO and his family.

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    BostonHerald.com
    Kelly Olynyk earns high marks from Few

    It’s a story Gonzaga men’s basketball coach Mark Few likes to share when talking about his former big man and new Celtics forward/center Kelly Olynyk.

    Olynyk decided to redshirt his junior season to develop his game and take advantage when some of the Gonzaga big men in front of him moved on to future endeavors. But Few didn’t have to look too far from the Bulldogs’ facilities to find his 7-footer during the school year.

    Few set up Olynyk with the scout team and walk-ons to prepare his starters for upcoming games. Normally those would be one-sided affairs. As Few tells it, that wasn’t the case with Olynyk on the other side.

    “He would take a group of walk-ons and get them organized and get them in the right spot and they would give our starting five fits sometimes,” Few told the Herald yesterday. “It was to the point where I’d have to tell Kelly to back off a little bit so it wouldn’t mess with our confidence.”
    The opportunities will be there for the taking for Olynyk with a depleted Celtics front line. Patience to take a year off worked for Olynyk, and now the Celtics and his country are hoping it pays off.

    “I think he’s a highly competitive person and player,” Few said. “I think it’s not something he will fear and it will be something he will look forward to. You just put him on the floor and he’s going to do whatever it takes to win.”
    - See more at: http://bostonherald.com/sports/celti....Tpa7gfSY.dpuf

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    Sorry for not wading through all of the above, but for someone who missed the NBA Draft broadcast, is there a link showing Kelly's pick (and subsequent analyst remarks)?


    Thanks.


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    Default ESPN Article on KO

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    Kelly Olynyk lost in shuffle
    Blockbuster deal stole spotlight, but he'll get chance to shine with Celtics

    BOSTON -- His draft night was hijacked by the blockbuster swap that the Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets agreed to on Thursday, but Kelly Olynyk should focus on the positive: The rebuilding process being ushered in by that trade ought to put him in the spotlight more often during his rookie season.

    The Celtics shuffled up three spots during Thursday's draft to nab Olynyk with the 13th pick. He's Boston's highest drafted player since the team took Jeff Green at No. 5 in 2007, only to flip him to Seattle in exchange for Ray Allen as the team began the process of emerging from its most recent rebuilding effort.

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    Kelly Olynyk's shooting ability caught the eye of the Celtics' Danny Ainge.
    Now, as Boston bunkers down for a roster makeover, its draft-pick-a-palooza starts with Olynyk, a 7-footer out of Gonzaga. Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said he believes that Olynyk can be an excellent complementary piece as Boston, with nine first-round picks over the next five seasons, starts putting together its roster of the future.

    "We weren't really confident that Kelly would be there at 16," said Ainge, who sent the No. 16 selection and two 2014 second-round picks to Dallas to move up. After the Oklahoma City Thunder took Pittsburgh big man Steven Adams at No. 12, Boston wasn't taking the risk that Olynyk could be the next big man off the board.

    "There were some other guys that were there at 16, but Kelly was a guy that we think complements [Rajon] Rondo and Avery [Bradley] and Jeff [Green]. He's just a really good complementary player. He's not a go-to guy, not a star player. He's like a really good teammate type of player and complements other guys."

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    B.C.'s Kelly Olynyk welcomes chance to play for iconic Celtics NBA franchise

    Arranged deal lets Kamloops native head to Boston

    Kelly Olynyk isn’t upset that he wasn’t invited to the NBA draft in New York.

    The Canadian college basketball star watched the proceedings on TV with 30-40 friends and family at his Kamloops home as he was drafted 13th overall by the Dallas Mavericks and immediately traded — as part of an arranged deal — to the Boston Celtics.

    “I was definitely thinking about going,” Olynyk, 22, said Friday, a day after the festivities. “The NBA invites about 15 people, and I didn’t end up getting invited. So I didn’t end up going. But I think it worked out better that way.

    “It was really fun to spend it here, back in Kamloops, with friends and family and people who have supported me my whole life. It was really nice, and real special, to be able to enjoy that and see how overjoyed people were for me and how proud and happy they were for me.”

    Olynyk added: “It’s special. Being a little kid, it’s a dream. It’s every kid’s dream after touching a basketball. It’s another door that’s opened, another journey in your life.”

    More at link.

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    Sadly, I think the time for "Locks of Love" is drawing near. I knew Brian looked like silent Bob.



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    Default 5 Reasons KO is a Great Pick for Boston

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    Agree with all those. There are more reasons so I would like to add a 6th reason, that Kelly has huge upside for any team. He hasn't even filled out his frame yet and although his mechanics and IQ are ready for the NBA, he has a lot of room for improvement physically and within the Celtics system.

    I'm sure there are more "Great reasons"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oregonzagnut View Post
    I'm sure there are more "Great reasons"?
    Yes, he has a great demeanor. Nothing seems to rattle him. He plays well in the clutch and does not react when teams play dirty and take cheap shots at him (e.g. BYU). Great pick for the Celtics.

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    . I've been searching in vain for an online stream.
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    The #Celtics will introduce their draft picks at a 1:30 p.m. press conference today.
    10:30 am Pacific?

    Eventually, I'd expect to see at least highlights of the press conference here.

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