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    Default Gameplan is simple: Guard the Three

    The Illini are actually pretty straightforward. They spread the floor, they play a lot faster than they did last season, and they chuck a bunch of 3s. To date, 43.5 percent of their possessions end in long-range heaves, and they're shooting 40.8 percent as a team. They shoot a lot of 3s, they make a lot of 3s, or at least they have thus far.
    It's obvious to the most casual observer. Run the Illini off the line, get in their grills out beyond the line. And rebound like maniacs.

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    The difference is that the Illinios guards are very big, fast, and athletic. Guys like Bertrand and Paul love to break a defense down, drive the lane, and look for the And 1. Abrams loves to drive as well. D.J. is a jump shooter.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GSHSoldier View Post
    The difference is that the Illinios guards are very big, fast, and athletic. Guys like Bertrand and Paul love to break a defense down, drive the lane, and look for the And 1. Abrams loves to drive as well. D.J. is a jump shooter.





    The difference is that our guards are better......... just sayin.

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    Default steal a page from the Cougs . . .

    play all 40 minutes. To win.
    Go TEAM Zags !

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    athletic guards that shoot the three or know how to drive for fouls... exactly the type of teams that give us fits. We win if they miss their shots, thats about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamagin View Post
    play all 40 minutes. To win.
    Even if it takes the last 7.7 seconds. Just win.
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    The difference maker = Francis the goat. He will kiss their coach and feed him 5 cents tacos.
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    Francis has the flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantua View Post
    Francis has the flu.
    So Francis will be the one offering 5 cent tacos?
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    Francis will BE the .05 tacos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobZag View Post
    It's obvious to the most casual observer. Run the Illini off the line, get in their grills out beyond the line. And rebound like maniacs.

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    Great Discussion. You are absolutely correct. We must stop them from getting in rhythm from three point land. This is easier said then done. We will surely try. I think it will come down to rebounding and turnovers. If we can run up a big net advantage, I am sure we will win. We're too good an offensive team not to win under these circumstances and please don't screw up the line-up. Keep Dower on the bench and keep Stockton's minutes down. No offense to them. In this game, lets keep Harris out there more as well as Bell, Pangos and Olynyk. Of course Hart should see more time on defense along with Edi (please don't shoot). .

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    I have been impressed with our help defense and rotation-- we have the bigs to back up our guys guarding the 3 pt line.

    I say let them drive and make them shoot over/around our 7 footers.

    If we can take them out of their 3 pt shooting comfort zone and make them work harder-- they will take some ill-advised 3 pt shots (nba range/off balance -- crazy stuff)- and they will make less then their average.

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    I predict Mike Hart collects a charge called against each of Illinois 4 guards and Groce gets ejected after his second technical foul.


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    well, less of a prediction, more of a wish.
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    Extend the guards out in man. If they get beat on the dribble, at least get beat from fifteen feet or more so that the bigs have time to step in. If the guards get beat, no reaching from the side to collect cheap fouls and put them in the bonus. It is on the bigs to get their feet set in time. This is the price you pay for running them off the three point line.

    Zags rotated well in the Old Spice Classic. The bigs are gonna have to cheat out a little and force the dribble drive shots from five feet instead of three.

    Illinois will get their share of scores from the perimeter. It is the transition scores that would put them over the top. Stockton needs to take care of the ball and quit making high risk passes in transition. Otherwise Illinois will be taking the ball the other way for high speed dunks.


    One last thing. Find out early who has the hot hand for them and rotate our two best on ball defenders on him. Stick to the guy like glue and when switching is required, get on him quickly.
    I miss Mike Hart

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    Make the free throws..............

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    Please no munchkin lineup.

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    What kind of defense do you guys see us playing? Man up? Box and 1 on paul? 3-2 (cant remember the last time we played that)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUZagDenver View Post
    The difference is that our guards are better......... just sayin.
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    Guard the three...truer words have never been spoken

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    What really irritated me about the game tonight was the 2nd half. Obviously. Why when their big guys were in foul trouble, like 4 each, did we not feed the ball directly to the post everytime? Why take a transition 3 at that point in the game (Pangos). I think Few should of made it loud and clear (Maybe he did) that the big guys need to go, get the ball down low and foul those suckers out!!

    The 2-3 zone is solvable, it's not rocket science. But why do we make it seem like rocket science? Why does our post game become invisible against it? It is possible to feed the post against the 2-3 you just have to feed the high post and we only did that twice today.. and each time it was an easy bucket. The jacking up ill advised 3's is not the way to break it. Sure the 3's are fine after the post game gets established but that didn't happen tonight..

    Ok so a stud guard took us down tonight. Why can't we stick GB2 on him and let him go toe to toe with the stud. The talent that Bell has guarded coming up in the Seattle scene is just as good as any guard we will ever see I really wish he would get that fire in him and start kicking some A and taking names like he is capable of.

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    Their guards are taller,quicker,equally good shooters,and play good D, but ours are Better??? Not a knock on our guards, just being realistic. The Illini live and die with their guards, and we tried to match them rather than continue dominating their bigs. Not sure why, but it didn't work. JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1973Zag View Post
    Their guards are taller,quicker,equally good shooters,and play good D, but ours are Better??? Not a knock on our guards, just being realistic. The Illini live and die with their guards, and we tried to match them rather than continue dominating their bigs. Not sure why, but it didn't work. JMHO
    Few doesn't like the national media attention on Karno, dower and Kelly, so he decides to switch up and stop using our depth and our front court. Few is a perpetual fixer, even when it was working. It usually works and he improves, but if you keep changing things to get better, you might miss out on what was the best in the first place. Confidence is important and what was working before may not work again because the natural control of each game has been destroyed. We are chasing now rather than being chased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westside-zagfan View Post
    What really irritated me about the game tonight was the 2nd half. Obviously. Why when their big guys were in foul trouble, like 4 each, did we not feed the ball directly to the post everytime? Why take a transition 3 at that point in the game (Pangos). I think Few should of made it loud and clear (Maybe he did) that the big guys need to go, get the ball down low and foul those suckers out!!

    The 2-3 zone is solvable, it's not rocket science. But why do we make it seem like rocket science? Why does our post game become invisible against it? It is possible to feed the post against the 2-3 you just have to feed the high post and we only did that twice today.. and each time it was an easy bucket. The jacking up ill advised 3's is not the way to break it. Sure the 3's are fine after the post game gets established but that didn't happen tonight..

    Ok so a stud guard took us down tonight. Why can't we stick GB2 on him and let him go toe to toe with the stud. The talent that Bell has guarded coming up in the Seattle scene is just as good as any guard we will ever see I really wish he would get that fire in him and start kicking some A and taking names like he is capable of.
    In this game...with such a BIG advantage inside....Bell, Pangos and Stockton shot it 25 times and the combo of Harris, Olynyk and PK only shot it 23 times ...THAT is whey we lost this game!!!!!!
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    Yes GeorgiaZagFan that's clearly why we lost. But WHY or HOW is that allowed to happen? That's the big question of the night.

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    As I said a month or so ago "This team will go as far as the coaches are capable of taking it." Guys played there hearts out but odd line ups slowed us up as usual. When their two big men fouled out with 2+ minutes to go why didn't we go inside - even once.

    Poor in-game decisions.

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