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    Default Blanchette: WAC is Toast

    If all those deals go down, the league will have two football-playing members – Idaho and New Mexico State – and basketball affiliates Seattle, Denver and Boise State in 2013-14.

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...ey-hits-rocks/

    If the WCC has no openings, does SU have any options other than the Big Sky or being an independent?

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    WCC should add 2 of those schools and go to 2 divisions.
    "After holding open practices during his first three seasons, Romar closed them to reporters last season, citing the "Gonzaga factor." He felt his team was compromised before the 2004-05 game against the Zags, that the opponent awaiting him and beating him 99-87 in Spokane seemed a little too well prepared."

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    Here are the teams leaving the WAC:


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGonzagaFactor View Post
    WCC should add 2 of those schools and go to 2 divisions.
    I just posted something similar on the Gael board...

    "how about we add Seattle and Denver, but split the WCC into an A league and a B leauge? The B league would have the bottom 6 teams and the A league the top 6. So the A league would be SMC, GU, BYU, LMU, USF, and USD. The A league teams play each other twice and play the B league teams once (the B league teams play each other twice and the A league teams once.) At the end of the season, the bottom two A league teams drop down to the B league and the top two B league teams move up to the A league. The conference tournament is played in by only the A league teams (top two teams get a bye to the semi finals and 3 plays 6 and 4 plays 5. The 3/6 winner plays 2 and the 4/5 winner plays 1.) "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt McGirt View Post
    I just posted something similar on the Gael board...

    "how about we add Seattle and Denver, but split the WCC into an A league and a B leauge? The B league would have the bottom 6 teams and the A league the top 6. So the A league would be SMC, GU, BYU, LMU, USF, and USD. The A league teams play each other twice and play the B league teams once (the B league teams play each other twice and the A league teams once.) At the end of the season, the bottom two A league teams drop down to the B league and the top two B league teams move up to the A league. The conference tournament is played in by only the A league teams (top two teams get a bye to the semi finals and 3 plays 6 and 4 plays 5. The 3/6 winner plays 2 and the 4/5 winner plays 1.) "
    If only we could get enough votes for that, Dirt. I would like to nominate you for WCC commissioner.
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    What's happening to the WAC provokes Kiddwell to thank goodness for the West Coast Conference: general quality across a range of men & women sports, and a very stable and proven core.

    Oh, and Kiddwell is thankful for the West Coast Conference because these guys recognize its general quality and core stability, too: ,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt McGirt View Post
    I just posted something similar on the Gael board...

    "how about we add Seattle and Denver, but split the WCC into an A league and a B leauge? The B league would have the bottom 6 teams and the A league the top 6. So the A league would be SMC, GU, BYU, LMU, USF, and USD. The A league teams play each other twice and play the B league teams once (the B league teams play each other twice and the A league teams once.) At the end of the season, the bottom two A league teams drop down to the B league and the top two B league teams move up to the A league. The conference tournament is played in by only the A league teams (top two teams get a bye to the semi finals and 3 plays 6 and 4 plays 5. The 3/6 winner plays 2 and the 4/5 winner plays 1.) "
    Nooooo. Imagine trying to recruit as a second-tier team within a mid-major conference. Promotion and relegation are cool and all but this is not the place. Creative, but not practical.
    "After holding open practices during his first three seasons, Romar closed them to reporters last season, citing the "Gonzaga factor." He felt his team was compromised before the 2004-05 game against the Zags, that the opponent awaiting him and beating him 99-87 in Spokane seemed a little too well prepared."

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    Just what the WCC needs....an unbalanced league schedule. One of the worst trends in recent college basketball history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt McGirt View Post
    I just posted something similar on the Gael board...

    "how about we add Seattle and Denver, but split the WCC into an A league and a B leauge? The B league would have the bottom 6 teams and the A league the top 6. So the A league would be SMC, GU, BYU, LMU, USF, and USD. The A league teams play each other twice and play the B league teams once (the B league teams play each other twice and the A league teams once.) At the end of the season, the bottom two A league teams drop down to the B league and the top two B league teams move up to the A league. The conference tournament is played in by only the A league teams (top two teams get a bye to the semi finals and 3 plays 6 and 4 plays 5. The 3/6 winner plays 2 and the 4/5 winner plays 1.) "
    This sounds like European soccer leagues a bit. I think it's very intriguing and would definitely be a first. I would argue tho that the (top) "B league" teams should be included in the conference tourney somehow. A team that has a big turnaround from the previous year is left out because of their previous year. It would definitely hurt recruiting because players would know that if they go to a school in the B League, they wont make the postseason for at least two years.

    Or...unless you were talking about "after the season" the top two B teams moving up before the tourney.

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    Yep, if anything this A league dream would in most minds lead to forming a new league alltogether and kickout the "B" Leaguers.

    In a perfect world if we could choose the best non pac 12 basketball progams in the west, I would probably go with: (sorted by travel partners)

    North

    Gonzaga (duh)
    SMC
    BYU
    Utah St
    New Mexico
    New Mexico St

    South

    USD
    San Diego St
    UNLV
    Nevada
    LMU
    Long Beach St


    This would never happen of course, but what a great league!
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    Default BSU or SU?

    Say BYU leaves the WCC at some point for the Big 12 or something else. Would you choose Boise St or Seattle U for the WCC or neither?

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    BSU is not a "faith based" institution. IIRC many years ago the WCAC (now the WCC) had some members that were state schools and it didn't work out so well.
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    My vote would be to add Denver and Seattle, those are two major markets that would be good for the league to expand into. It would also provide a regional partner for BYU to travel with. The Pac-12 I believe did it the right way, they expanded into major markets when the time was right and split it up logically.

    The WCC North/South conferences:

    North:
    Gonzaga
    Seattle U
    Portland
    San Fransisco
    Saint Maries
    Santa Clara

    South:
    BYU
    Denver
    Pacific
    San Diego
    Pepperdine
    LMU

    The problem with this is that Geographically there are 7 teams in the "North" now that Pacific is joining. I guess a zipper conference of some sort would be the answer?

    Option with a North/South setup could be:

    North:
    Gonzaga
    Seattle
    Portland
    Denver
    BYU
    Pacific (just deal with it Pacific)

    South:
    USD
    LMU
    Pepperdine
    Saint Maries
    San Fransisco
    Santa Clara

    I think the second way makes the most sense, i'm not a fan of zipper conferences.
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