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  • Gray

    31 29.81%
  • Dower

    40 38.46%
  • Sacre

    4 3.85%
  • Meech

    23 22.12%
  • Olynyk

    3 2.88%
  • Someone else (who?)

    3 2.88%
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Thread: - - - GUnit of the Game - - - (Southern Oregon Exhhibition)

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    The GUnit for me was our Freshman class as a whole...they all had their moments, looked terrific in their first live action, and each showed glimpses of contributing at a high level sooner rather than later:

    -- Sam Dower
    -- Mathis Monninghoff
    -- Mathis Keita
    “You’ve got to hit the Zag standard.”

    And if it happens, those rites of Autumn become the rites of Spring.

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    Default Dower

    Even after all I heard about Sam I was really pleasantly surprised on how well he played. Instant offense, very aggresive rebounder, good passer, good defense. He gets the nod with Meech a close second with most improved!

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    Kennel club was chanting "Kevin Pangos" was he in the house ?
    "I'm really excited. I'm excited to wear GONZAGA on my chest.
    -Kevin Pangos-

    "You play to win the game, HELLO!?!- I dont care if you have any wins! You play to win the game "-Herm Edwards
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=IMk5sMHj58I

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDC84 View Post
    Keita in a couple of years could be a dynamite player. He might have better lateral quickness on the defensive end than anyone on the entire roster. His wingspan is insane, and I like his motor and speed in the open floor. He needs coaching and seasoning. He's still really learning the game.
    He looks raw skill-wise, but is the kind of player you can't stop watching. He just has the look of a thoroughbred. One of those "developmental players with high upside" if you have the patience to wait.

    I think the kid needs a redshirt but could turn out to be a real gem in the long haul. At full potential, I envison a Kyle Weaver type.

    I guess I am just repeating everything you just said
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    Keita in a couple of years could be a dynamite player. He might have better lateral quickness on the defensive end than anyone on the entire roster. His wingspan is insane, and I like his motor and speed in the open floor. He needs coaching and seasoning. He's still really learning the game.
    Agreed. He is going to be a terrific defender. Liked what I saw from Mooninghoff as well.

    Meech was simply great tonight. Not great competition but he was head and shoulders better than anyone on the court tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroZag2010 View Post
    Kennel club was chanting "Kevin Pangos" was he in the house ?
    yeah, he was

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    Quote Originally Posted by canada View Post
    yeah, he was
    That's totally awesome =}
    "I'm really excited. I'm excited to wear GONZAGA on my chest.
    -Kevin Pangos-

    "You play to win the game, HELLO!?!- I dont care if you have any wins! You play to win the game "-Herm Edwards
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=IMk5sMHj58I

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    Quote Originally Posted by canada View Post
    yeah, he was
    Did you guys, uh, I mean, did he, have a good time?

    P.S Tell Duane to come here too.

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    Just watched the replay ---

    Something I haven't seen mentioned before, yet very impressed with Marquise's defense in this game. He has terrific technique, stance, lateral movement, nice reads, etc. I feel he has the ability to develop into a very sound defender for us. Of course his offensive game is still a question mark overall, but think he'll come into his own and develop a niche in this offense by mid-season...seems to have a natural touch around the hoop as well. Just wanted to mention his encouraging "d", b/c our point of attack defense was pretty weak last season and he can only help contribute this year...
    “You’ve got to hit the Zag standard.”

    And if it happens, those rites of Autumn become the rites of Spring.

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    Default The off season is over!! We are talking about an

    actual game. For five months we won't be generalizing, analyzing ball park discussions, and contemplating each recruit rumor for weeks.

    I went for Dower. When I used to play a little basketball, if I saw somebody like Dower (a banger) I would think I was going to get pounded and pulverized tonight. He, like Elias, seems to be everywhere the ball is, and unlike almost all other players on any team I have ever seen in college or pro ball, follows darn near all of his shots in. Most guys shoot and drift away, and are not there when the ball rebounds back. Sam got a couple that way tonight. Steve was a close second for my vote.

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    Can players who played in this game still red-shirt?

    I saw Hyland and Keita in the box score. I thought those were our most likely candidates for a redshirt and was a little surprised to see both of them.
    Gonzaga has defeated Baylor, Illinois, Virginia, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, UCLA, Arizona, Creighton, Oklahoma, Florida State, Texas A&M, Oregon, Iowa, West Virginia, Auburn, USC, and Washington over just the past three seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Centre Mad Man View Post
    Can players who played in this game still red-shirt?

    I saw Hyland and Keita in the box score. I thought those were our most likely candidates for a redshirt and was a little surprised to see both of them.
    It was an exhibition game. They are allowed to play without it affecting their red-shirt. Dower played in the exhibition last year.

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    Dower was the unit, because I expect that performance from Gray every game. When Gray busts out for 25+ he'll get my vote. Dower's play builds confidence in the front line and confirms its depth.

    5 turnovers against a horrible team? I just don't see what other people are seeing concerning Stockton. Danny Pariseau wasn't good enough for GU and he was better. I don't see him getting important minutes this year. Am I missing something?

    I like Carter's game. He doesn't press and he isn't a guy that must score. I love pass first PGs who can score when needed. I can't wait until he truly learns the system

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    I must have missed something in an earlier post, but do we have any idea how serious E. Harris shoulder injury is? And can someone tell me why God does this to me every year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantua View Post
    Mönninghoff (is the pronunciation of the first syllable of his first name like tha "a" in cat or in in ahhh?)
    'a' in cat, Mat'-his (think strong German sounding)

    Keita is Mah-tees'
    "Sam (Dower's) like porn in a way...you know it when you see it....even though it's hard to quantify."--MDABE80 via gamagin

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    Just an exhibition but no questions were answered in my view. Dower looks to be what we had all hoped...fantastic hands and a natural scorer, but raw and he didn't show any post moves last night. Ko is tough, gritty and savvy but still figuring out how to score. Sacre is big, but has got to be able to handle double teams. Meech played well but southern Oregon had no one to contest his penetration. The newcomers got their feet wet. I think we could be very good but I just didn't see a lot answered last night...granted it was a televised scrimmage. I don't think few ever played his top 5 guys at the same time last night.

    But seriously, what was up with manny? He seemed awfully apathetic last night...not the manny from last year.

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    I would go with Sacre - a double-double with 3 blocks and countless shots not even attempted by the So Oregon. He was hacked all night and that did not bother him. The best thing out of him is that he stayed in great defensive stance throughout the game even twenty feet from the basket. So Oregon tried to pull him out to try to drive on him with a smaller player and quicker player. It did not work because of his great defense. He's boxing out for rebounds was text book.

    If he plays this way consistently, he will be average a double double.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GonzagaLove View Post
    I must have missed something in an earlier post, but do we have any idea how serious E. Harris shoulder injury is? And can someone tell me why God does this to me every year?
    Just be thankful you're not a Purdue fan. However bad GU gets hit with stress-fractures, tweaks, etc I just can't compare to what's happened to Hummel.

    Heister and Ehlo said to start the broadcast that Harris wasn't playing, but could play if he had needed to in a real game. So take from that what you can, I guess.

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    Default I loved watching this free for all

    and meeting fellow GUB member ridgebackzag and his buddy. Other than that, I didn't take much away from it.

    I'm dying to see how our starting five, or top 6-7 are going to play as a team when pressed by real competition.

    SG, Meech & KO looked very comfortable. Dower looked like he can adapt on the fly. RS still doesn't look like he's at home in the middle as much as I'd like him to be, dishing with three men on him instead of forcing shots for e.g., getting into the brain game, but he looks like he will be good for his share of points and boards.

    The rest clearly were adjusting to the lights and doing a great job of working their butts off under pressure.

    But by the end I was hoping to see some discipline, some plays that looked like they had been set up and executed well. The best "team" action I saw usually came from Meech, then KO, Dower, Stockton and a few others. SG needed to pass more several times when someone broke for the basket, but clearly was playing unto himself this night. It was great to watch this athlete move and shoot, but he also needs to make the choices and the high percentage opportunities when better teams are our oppponents.

    Manny needs to learn the plays. If he does that, he could be excellent.

    I hope EH can play full tilt. We need him.
    Go TEAM Zags !

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    Thanks Nev. I hope he is ready to go soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LynetteG View Post
    'a' in cat, Mat'-his (think strong German sounding)

    Keita is Mah-tees'

    The French generally don't accent syllables as strongly as English speakers.
    I spoke to a German scholar who informed me the the "a" changes pronunciation according to region in Germany.
    I think it would be fun to hear the players pronounce their own names.
    Last edited by Mantua; 11-06-2010 at 04:41 PM. Reason: Forgetful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantua View Post
    The French generally don't accent syllables as strongly as English speakers.
    Right, just the German version is strong.
    "Sam (Dower's) like porn in a way...you know it when you see it....even though it's hard to quantify."--MDABE80 via gamagin

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    First practice game of the year, first time playing together, they looked like a pretty awesome bunch of kids to me. They will be very good, just be patient.
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    There were some very encouraging things from that game.

    -Rob had a double-double and shot 5/6 on his FTs.
    -Kelly was one rebound short of a double-double on 5/7 shooting. His only two misses were 3s, and we know he can hit those at a reasonable clip.
    -Dower did some very good things and looks ready to contribute.
    -Gray looked like a leader. I’m looking for big things this year from Gray not only on the stat sheet but also in his role as a leader.
    -Arop didn’t shine but I’m sure he’ll be ok.
    -Goodson played better than I’ve ever seen him play, but not quite good enough for me to say that I have complete confidence in him now. He still made a troubling number of bad mistakes. That 3 was huge for him, however, given that he only hit 4 all of last year. I think Few has to be happier about our PG situation after seeing what Goodson did, but I’m not sure that Goodson earned many more minutes. He was better than Carter and Keita, but those two are first year players and Goodson is a junior. It may not be long before Carter and Keita pass Goodson.

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