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    Someone is just a little imperious.

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    Hey, did you know his new team is one of the best teams in Europe?
    Or did we miss that fact somewhere in our rush to congratulate him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webspinnre View Post
    Does anyone here actually KNOW what Jeremy's practice routine does and doesn't include? If not, all this speculating is just ridiculous.
    I did...before he graduated. Obviously not since. In that summer between his Jr And Sr year, I talked to him. I know of which I speak. He simply relies on his strength and athleticism . He was hitting some golf balls with Matt on that field south of Catherine Monica..... where that new large dorm sits now.

    Great kid. Cocky. Fun. Ready smile. He should be listening to advice. BUT...congrats to him on his new job. I doubt he'll see another NBA invite. There are kids who will do the work necessary. No offense fellas. Let's hope he has a fine season in Israel. Like Jazz says...it's a very nice place.

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    Please excuse me, I am very happy for him and those who stated it are absolutely right, he is doing something he loves - playing basketball at a high level. That was a dream of mine back in the day. It is sometimes hard to get the "coach and teacher in me" to let it alone. No offense intended to anyone.

    By all means congratulations to you Jeremy Pargo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDABE80 View Post
    He should be listening to advice.
    Why the "should"? I respect your posts on here Abe and you are entitled to your opinion, but really feel like you're off base on this one.

    Pretty much everybody would be better at their chosen profession if they dedicated more time to it...be it a physician, basketball player, or really anybody else. Jeremy has clearly put enough in to play at an extraordinarily high level, and if that's the end point, it's still an incredible achievement.

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    [QUOTE=MDABE80;585516]
    Quote Originally Posted by BoZarth View Post
    Not in a shooting contest you wouldn't. Jeremy's big problem for years is his shooting.
    Clarke? Really? I know Clarke is a good spot up shooter, but him you put up against Jeremy? Maybe Clarke should stop spending so much time on his shooting and practice his ball handling, defense and passing. All those skills that can be learned, and his fundamentals are really lacking. (I am not talking about his athletic ability, but his fundamentals.) There is a reason that his team is lower BSC team with a losing record since he's been playing with them. I mean have you seen him in proper fundamentally sound defensive stance? If you have take a picture, it's rare. (I wonder how Bobby Knight would have handled him, I tell you would not be getting minute with Knight with his current game.) His fundamentals on other parts of his game stink as well. Hence, why he gives up more points than he scores. AND HIS TEAM LOSES more than wins.
    You are right in saying he would be beat Jeremy in shooting contest, but in a fundamentals contest Jeremy would win hands down. And in the real test, Jeremy has always played on a winner. Something that Mr one dimension can't claim. Heck his teams can't even make it the CBI playing in the very weak SEC west.
    Clarke? Give me a break.
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    Maybe it's ME who's the throwback. If I had one thing keeping me out of the league, I'd fix it. I'd do hours of correcting a deficiency.....hundreds of hours. Anyone who knows me knows I'd do whatever it takes. Excellence takes work. Perhaps I ask too much of the kids. I'm glad Jeremy's still working....and at an apparent high level. Not sure what else there is to say on this thread.

    In the case of Clarke, when he came visiting, I notice an underwhelming , unathletic kid who MADE himself into a high level play by doing the work. For some reason I like that style. Jeremy's a kid who is doing well...much better than I thought he would. Could he do better? I think so. How? By focusing on that one deficiency. That's all it is.
    Nothing big, nothing small in my world. I just want the best for our kids.

    It's just my philosphy. Perhaps I should keep it to myself. Sorry guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDABE80 View Post
    I did...before he graduated. Obviously not since. In that summer between his Jr And Sr year, I talked to him. I know of which I speak.
    That finally answers the question I asked re: if you have inside info. BTW, it was you who introduced the phrase "burden of proof" into the conversation; I was just responding to that. Thanks for clarifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDABE80 View Post
    In the case of Clarke, when he came visiting, I notice an underwhelming , unathletic kid who MADE himself into a high level play by doing the work.
    Clarke has a quick release and has a good eye. That is rare and you can't coach that. He developed himself into a high level shooter, but is not putting the work in to be anything but shooting, he remains a below average D1 player. But take a player he played against in High school, Keiton Page. If anything Clarke is a better athlete than Page, he is certainly taller and as quick. Page has work harder in the non glory parts of his game, defense, passing and ball handling. Clarke settles for being a shooter and does not put in the work to be a player, while Page does. Hence, why Page is having a better college career at OSU. (We will see Page this year) There is no excuse fro Clarke to play the horrible defense he plays. He needs to get wide and get his posterior lower the ground, not hard. The fact he is not doing the work after two years in D1 ball is disturbing. I think it is part of how AAU is ruining basketball fundamentals. IN AAU, you stand out by putting up numbers, and less by playing fundamentally sound basketball. Hence, you have players like Clarke, who are great scorers, but could not defend a fifty year gym rat if their life depended on it. Clarke is wasting his talents by only working on his strength.

    Pargo is putting the work into to being a PG, which is more about defense, running a team, and passing. His mechanics in his shot are good, he is still lacking confidence in his shot, though I think he is getting better at that. He averaged 34% in his first pro season. He is now playing for the most dominate team in Israel, so we will see if he make into the NBA, though like I said in order to break in to the NBA, he would now have to take a pay cut. In today's economy, that is nothing to take lightly. If he stays in Europe, he could continue to make a better living.
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    Big assumption here, unless you know for a fact that he doesn't practice shooting enough. Like in everything else, innate ability factors in as much as practice, much like the way we talk about "feel for the game" which can't be taught. Some great athletes just don't have a soft touch, and some guys with a soft touch aren't great athletes.

    It's like saying Dan Dickau failed to become an NBA star because he didn't do plyometrics 8 hours a day and develop a 40 inch vertical.

    If you have some inside personal info about Jeremy's work habits that you didn't share, it would be interesting to hear what it is.

    Don't have a link, but Dickau once said in a published interview that he shot a couple hundred balls a day, and that if he shot more than that he wouldn't be able to give each shot the necessary concentration (or words to that effect).
    great post. all hoopers have different strengths, its what makes the game so fun! as for becoming a great shooter, shaq, dwight, all the guys in the nba that shoot hundreds of ft's a day and still are not very good must not be practicing. rondo probably never works on his jump shot, it sure is weak for an nba player. but these guys can all dominate in other areas. where jeremy lacks in shooting he can out play clarke pretty much everywhere else on the court. everyone has the skill set they appreciate more, i love 3 ball specialists. thats my game personally, its what i am good at. but it doesnt mean im better than a guy who can get to the rack anytime he wants in comparison. pargo is doing great things for himself, i for one give big ups! edited to add, this post will be fun to revisit in a few years to see if rotneis "hard work" paid off more than jeremys. reminds me of the durant/oden thread where i got bagged on for saying durant over oden in the draft was a no brainer.

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    Guards make freethrows and hangs onto the ball. A good guard also hits 2's and 3's. Now which of those does Jeremy do well? Aren't you a bit late to this party 79?

    In a guard, practicing those things usually improves a guard..right? If a guard puts up 20 plus points onsome days and 3 on the next night , what do you conclude? Thoughtful people would say there's major inconsistency. And how does one cure inconsistency? Practice.

    Sick of this thread. I'm glad he's been so successful shooting the way he does. I'm glad Jeremy's got a job. Congrats to him. Doesn't this about cover it?

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    late, but didint miss much. another zag making money doing what he loves, awesome!

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