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    Default Let the noise begin

    Got used by Gonzaga? Give me a break!

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    Wow. Disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    Got used by Gonzaga? Give me a break!

    (I left out effing).
    Yet another example of how he might've been a great player, he never once impressed me as a person. I'm sure you can find tons of stories about interactions with him at GU.
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    Default give him (and me) a break

    if you don't think GU benefited from his rock star status and took full advantage of it for the benefit of the program, than we will have to agree to disagree. He just stated the truth on the subject presented to him. If he felt ill will to Gonzaga, he wouldn't agree to doing things like the decade of excellence. I found nothing "disappointing" in that acticle other than the failure of fans to support him through his toughest times.

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    I totally agree with you Gufan. GU and the program benefitted from Adam's "rock star status" as you mentioned....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldzag15 View Post
    I totally agree with you Gufan. GU and the program benefitted from Adam's "rock star status" as you mentioned....
    Conversely, it wasn't like Adam was going to be a #3 pick out of high school. His status came about at Gonzaga and it would be hard to argue he didn't use Gonzaga to improve his draft prospects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonuvazag View Post
    Conversely, it wasn't like Adam was going to be a #3 pick out of high school. His status came about at Gonzaga and it would be hard to argue he didn't use Gonzaga to improve his draft prospects.
    agreed, but it's likely he would have been a lottery pick no matter where he went. He was definitely better for GU than GU was for him. And that is no knock on GU, as it is an amazing place. Not to mention the staff can always point back to how they were able get an NBA bench player drafted #3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gufan View Post
    agreed, but it's likely he would have been a lottery pick no matter where he went. He was definitely better for GU than GU was for him. And that is no knock on GU, as it is an amazing place. Not to mention the staff can always point back to how they were able get an NBA bench player drafted #3.
    I think GU was good for Adam. Both benefited from his time at GU. I don't think on can label Adam a bench player in the NBA like that is a bad thing. Bottom line is he is, or at least was, in the NBA. Few players ever get to play in it or experience what Adam has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gufan View Post
    agreed, but it's likely he would have been a lottery pick no matter where he went. He was definitely better for GU than GU was for him. And that is no knock on GU, as it is an amazing place. Not to mention the staff can always point back to how they were able get an NBA bench player drafted #3.
    I disagree totally.

    What Adam says:
    "To be honest with you, I was burned out when I came [into the NBA], as far as mentally. I was all over ESPN every night during the college season. I was probably one of the most recognizable collegiate athletes at the time. Everywhere I went, somebody knew who I was. It was a little overwhelming. My experience at Gonzaga kind of went sour, because I was always doing an interview, doing something for somebody. Sign this. Going to this. I always felt like I kinda got used in a sense toward the end, for their personal gain. So as far as that, looking back on it now, I came in kind of wanting to get away from that, and obviously, the worst place to go is to is [where] the higher expectations [are]."
    It reminds me of a phase I went through as a young adult, when it was so easy to blame my upbringing for my shortcomings, instead of accepting responsibility for them and finally putting in the work required to be a grownup.

    Gonzaga gave Adam a huge chance and supported him in the pursuit of his dreams. I loved Adam, but his failure to cope with fame adequately and his failure to meet expectations are on him.

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    Default Much ado about nothing

    I would not put much stock in this commentary. He is in a funk and looking for a job. However, Adam has millions of dollars in the bank and probably never has to work a day the rest of his life. With a little bit of sound investment advice he can do fine in some business venture.

    Check back with him in about 10 years when he is in a better mood.

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    Default Yeah

    He could have gone to uw, shared the ball with Nate, Brandon et al & been the #3 pick.

    Whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    I disagree totally.

    What Adam says:It reminds me of a phase I went through as a young adult, when it was so easy to blame my upbringing for my shortcomings, instead of accepting responsibility for them and finally putting in the work required to be a grownup.

    Gonzaga gave Adam a huge chance and supported him in the pursuit of his dreams. I loved Adam, but his failure to cope with fame adequately and his failure to meet expectations are on him.
    Can't believe I'm in disagreement with the beloved ZN!

    I just don't understand how signing autographs and doing press conferences every waking minute of your spare time constitutes putting in work required to be a grown up. I bet he actually put in far more "work" than any of us to become a grown up through working on his game.

    His "failure" to cope with fame comes from his personality, not his lack of maturity. Introverted personalities are not suited for the attention, and therefore comes off poorly to some. I suppose because our hero (i mean that genuinely) John Stockton doesn't like the media hype and won't sign autographs for fans, that means he is immature too? I can't imagine how he would have handled the media barrage that Adam went through. Adam also delt with it not because he wanted it, but because he was "urged" to by the program. Definitely for the benefit of GU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingon50 View Post
    He could have gone to uw, shared the ball with Nate, Brandon et al & been the #3 pick.

    Whatever.
    Didn't say #3. Said lottery, ala Daye. Also said where ever HE would have gone, not where ever you would hypothetically put him to try to prove a point. Doubt the Dawgs would have been a reasonalble alternative for him. Adam had some pretty good players to share the ball with at GU too by the way. And Roy would have gladly gotten him the ball, you can bet on that.

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    Ah, c'mere, you big lug, Gufan!



    You know it scares the kids when we fight.

    I don't know ... Maybe Adam Morrison truly was Gonzaga's Judy Garland to Mark Few's Louis B Mayer, and it was all destined to end in tears.

    I hope this offers a grim lesson to any high-value prospect out there: Come to Gonzaga only if you want to become a media darling, sought after for interviews and press conferences, pursued for your autograph, pestered to be featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated (at least three times), Co-player of the year, drafted #3 in the NBA, with a starting salary of $3.5 mil ...

    Ohhh! Got to make a kid mad just to think about that kind of abuse ...

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    I'm picking up what your putting down. Nothin' but love ZN

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    Ammo has a kid?
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    What I have learned from the media, and their tactics, is that you cannot always believe what you see--EVER. Don't rag on Morrison unless you heard him say those things about GU. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but unless you heard it personally, I would hold the quote as suspect. The media is all about sensationalism and selling papers, getting page hits, etc. They will make mountains out of molehills. I know this first-hand (and I am not talking anything about basketball, just media in general).
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    True. Very true. I couldn't have said it better myself LynetteG. It happened to me a few times when I played baseball for the Zags in the 80's..

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    Very good point Lynette, I should give him the benefit of the doubt. As a Coach, I have been misquoted more than once.

    Gufan, I take one step back.

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    And I am not defending Morrison, it's just that my previous employer was the victim of some vicious reporting, and I was there first-hand to see that 1) what they were reporting wasn't true, and 2) (some) media personnel are very devious and will write what sells, and not necessarily the truth. If Morrison said those things, then shame on him, but we don't know that he said that exact quote, my bet is that it was misconstrued.
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    Default Did anyone else see...

    The quote by Ammo, at or after the golf tourney, where he said that if he doesn't get an NBA offer, he is done with B'Ball?
    It was under a pic on Krem, on-line I think, and I assumed that someone else would post it, and now I can't find the link.
    Found the link!!

    Will

    http://www.krem.com/sports/Gonzaga-s...100666999.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldzag15 View Post
    I totally agree with you Gufan. GU and the program benefitted from Adam's "rock star status" as you mentioned....
    I still remember the San Francisco game where the place was packed to the rafters and they were sitting in the aisles. He sure put on a show. He kept hitting every shot and kept moving further and further behind the 3 point line. I loved the crowds reaction when he hit that last deep three, it was like, "I hate this, but this is soooo cool."

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    GU gave Adam his chance. He made the most of it. And it got him a ton of money the past 4 years.

    I could be wrong, but I thought his only D1 offer was from GU. Maybe I am remembering this wrong, but I recall his options being limited in his junior year of high school. So, if he made the printed statement, it seems a bit like that was a comment he should have swallowed, even if he felt it to be true.

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