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    Default Matty B. drafted or not

    So as we all know you really can't count on what mock drafts say when it comes down to the late part of round 2. So what does everybody think will Matt get drafted late in the second. I will take a chance and say some team will also take a chance and take him.

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    Default no

    not a chance....

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    I am trying to be optimistic and saying yes, drafted.
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    Matt is about in the same place that Josh Heytvelt was in last year. I think Matt is going to get picked though. Here is why. Matt has a very high basketball IQ. This is an important quality in a guard. It means that Matt is going to play better when he plays with better players. He is a great passer, and a decent shooter. His passing ability will be his strenth, and then his rebounder. Josh is really good. Matt is bettter. He has excellent size to play at the next level. I also think he is a quality guy, and his past is not tainted as was Josh's. Josh's past had a big part in his not being drafted. I think Matt will be a good pro too.

    I am so excited for tomorrow night. I want to see his name get called.
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    Josh's past games had a big part. Can't be serious about big man who doesn't rebound and work hard. Speaks to nothing other than motivation. Also though Josh, in his last college game did another "no show" with ZERO rebounds against UNC on National TV. Nearly impossible to draft that.

    Matt will go late 2nd round with luck. He tailed off the end of the season. Much depends on how well he did in the invitations to various teams. One thing with Matt: he's always worked hard and did his best..even when injured. He has talent, guts and shoots well. Big guard who has good handles. Only thing is that his lateral movement is slower than some would worship.

    I dunno when athleticism counts more than being a smart player who works hard and wins because his IQ is good and improves his teammates. If that still counts, Matt should be in. Hate to hire a super athlete who is lazy and doesn't focus on his teammates.

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    Default Sorry...but no

    With the "state of the game" as it is, where teams value potential over experience, athleticism over IQ, length and "bounce" over shooting touch and "intangibles"...it does not bode well for a 6'5", white Senior. Not in a league with a two-round draft. Teams shoot for the stars in the draft...and then sign solid yet unspectacular players as undrafted free agents. If Mattie makes the league, that will be his path. I'm crossing my fingers for him, though...

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    I doubt he'll get drafted, but I hope he does.

    In one mock draft I saw Matt wasn't drafted but they had 5 Kentucky players going in the first 19 picks! I think the Kentucky mascot was projected a late second rounder.
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    If he does get drafted, it's likely to be towards the end of the 2nd round. He might be better off grabbing that passport anyway. I think Matty's going to make in the living in the game somewhere overseas, and he's not going to have to play for some club where he'll be wondering whether or not he'll get paid on time.

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    Is he better off drafted in the late second round, or being an invite to camp. He could choose which team he tried out for if he isn't drafted. That said, he is a known quantity, a smart player with a good shot and above average IQ for B'Ball, not an unknown Euro, or a freshman with little or no track record, so my guess is not drafted, but invited to camp and MAYBE makes a team.

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    Default ANOTHER RECENT VIEW (oops) on Matt


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    I have to say not drafted. There just isn't a market for a white 2-guard with average athleticism in the NBA, uness you are a dead-eye shooter, which Matt is not. I really hope I am proven wrong about this, but I think he will get a summer league spot and then make his way over to Europe, just like most of Gonzaga's draft hopefuls last year. I agree with the post above about bounce and speed trumping IQ in the NBA. Whether or not this is good for the league is debatable, but that's certainly the way it is.

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    Best of luck to our Matty! He'll find his ultimate place I have no doubt.
    I hope it's in the NBA so I can continue to watch him. It may be better for him to go undrafted, pick his best situation, then go prove himself in Summer League much like Blake Stepp did before his injury.

    The NBA does a great job of drafting players overall. Far fewer busts than in Baseball or Football.

    There are literally only a handful of roster spots in the league that are open for rookies and Euros each year. If you don't have a certain level of athleticsm, you will fail.

    Example A: Rajon Rondo
    Rondo couldn't shoot a lick and had some other issues but was a super athlete. The NBA turned him into a great player because you can't teach athleticsm but you can teach everything else.


    I can't believe I am hearing that the NBA, which is owned by a bunch of old white guys, is racist against white players. Seriously? It would be the ultimate in irony if true but of course it's not.

    I'll believe the IQ over athleticsm argument when the IVY league starts dominating the NCAAs.

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    I think yes, maybe by the Lakers or Spurs late in the second round. Though, that does not mean making the team and play next year in the NBA. Drafted means the D-league. It maybe better to go undrafted and then try to get on a team that would need his skill set.

    It looks like Pargo will have a chance to work his way into the league after a great season in Israel. Not going drafted doesn't mean an end to dream of NBA.

    Matt, continue to get better (shooting NBA 3s) and believe.
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    Default Deron in the house!

    Matty working out with Deron Williams in Spokane, interesting. Might be other Zags are getting the same treatment? That couldn't hurt.

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    "But Bouldin is determined to prove that he can play. He's spent several offseason hours in Spokane working out both with Jazz guard Deron Williams and with Zags (and Jazz) alum John Stockton, picking up tips on how to play the point, which he'll probably have to do in order to stick with an NBA team. That's a pretty good duo from which to learn.

    "[David Stockton] is a walk-on at our school," Bouldin said of Stockton. "[John Stockton] is around all the time. He's got some amazing stories. And he can still play. The guy's amazing. He's in the gym ripping off 50 pullups at a time. He's a freak. He's the smartest, best point guard ever. So any little thing you can get from him really helps."

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    From ESPN:

    Matt is one of 'This Year's Hidden Gems'

    Matt Bouldin
    If you love basketball, you'll love the way Bouldin plays the game. He is smart, can shoot and is a terrific playmaker. I'm not sure what position he'll play -- he isn't athletic enough to guard the perimeter players in the NBA -- but he is the kind of player you can trust to make the right decision. Coaches love the Matt Bouldins of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagpower View Post


    I can't believe I am hearing that the NBA, which is owned by a bunch of old white guys, is racist against white players. Seriously? It would be the ultimate in irony if true but of course it's not.
    Its not a race issue, its an athleticism issue. They're biased against kids who aren't athletic. It just so happens that many of those kids are white.
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    As much as I love Bouldin, I don't think there is a chance he'll be drafted. He will be successful somewhere overseas though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webspinnre View Post
    Its not a race issue, its an athleticism issue. They're biased against kids who aren't athletic. It just so happens that many of those kids are white.
    I agree Web, but two different posters in this thread have pointed out that Matt being "white" will hurt him. I say BS.

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    Inasmuch as being white means being less athletic, it's not really BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007Zag View Post
    Inasmuch as being white means being less athletic, it's not really BS.
    These guys are being evaluated on their individual skills and athleticsm, not on their race. Too much money on the line for the owners and GM's to prejudge based on race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rijman View Post
    I doubt he'll get drafted, but I hope he does.

    In one mock draft I saw Matt wasn't drafted but they had 5 Kentucky players going in the first 19 picks! I think the Kentucky mascot was projected a late second rounder.
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    I hope I am wrong....

    Matt did not have a standout second half of the year. Couple that with his play against very quick guards and you have to ask, is he quick enough to guard PG or SGs in the NBA? The zone will help a little. Offensively, he is an NBA player, but with how he shot the last 10 games of the year and the fact that he did not dominate games (which I know isn't his game) I don't think GMs will risk a draft pick on him. He will get invited to ever camp he works out for I'm guessing.

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    It wouldn't shock me to see him drafted if a GM fell in love. By the same token, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him undrafted. He's your classic tweener when it comes to the draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagpower View Post
    It may be better for him to go undrafted, pick his best situation, then go prove himself in Summer League much like Blake Stepp did before his injury.
    Blake Stepp was drafted. Second round, pick #59, by Minnesota.

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    Fingers crossed.

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