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    Default Canada's U17 Cadets Leave for Madrid

    Tomorrow (Wednesday), according to their coach's twitter:

    Roy_Rana Great final full day of Training Camp. The guys really stepped up and competed at a high level. Last practice in the am, then off to Madrid
    May the Force be with Kevin and Duane, and all of Team Canada. Nice words from the coach, as well:

    Roy_Rana As much as I'm impressed with the skills and athleticism of our team. I am more proud of there character and approach!
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    Unfortunately they still haven't listed the team yet!

    I think the "team" will be a sum much greater than its parts (and there are some pretty decent parts at that). My guess is that Olivier Hanlan may backup Kevin and I hear that there is not much of a step down when he is on the floor. With a Starting lineup that should include Pangos, Notice, Wiggins and Bennett they will be very athletic and competititve, I sense a real possibility of a medal (I wouldn't care what colour).

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    Default I'm liking Roy Rana more and more

    Seems like a class guy, right along with Greg Francis. Here is Rana's latest twitter--

    Roy_Rana There will be many successful men in life who have been on this team and many who will make a lasting mark on Bball in Canada.
    No wonder Few likes Kevin, Duane, et al, so much.
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    SCU has the AIS connection, Gonzaga has the Canada Basketball one. I'm pretty sure that Rana has been head coach for the Canadian team at the Nike Global Challenge event in Portland the last two years. I like the chances of a few of those players playing there as well. That could place them over Spokane's side of the continent.........hmm

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    No, I don't see the roster yet, but this:
    Solid Final practice and off to the Airport. Mental prep goes to another level as we adjust to time changes amongst other challenges.Madrid!
    about 2 hours ago via web

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    Then this:
    Sitting in my chair I swear that it was moving. I'm not drunk and my floor was moving! Earthquake! 32 minutes ago via TweetDeck

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    And then I find this:
    [B]A small earthquake was felt in parts of Ontario Wednesday morning—places like Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa experienced the quake.

    Several buildings were evacuated and residents we spoke to say they felt a rumble as the ground shaked.

    The US Geological Service has confirmed the quake had a magnitude of 5.5.
    Looks like it's not a big one, but what a sendoff for the kids on their trip to Madrid!

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    Default U17 Canada loses first exhibition game, to Spain

    Found on FEB, the official site for Spain (Spanish Language, of course), translated via Google:

    The U17 men culminates a big comeback and is binding on Canada in Guadalajara ( 88-79 )

    06/25/2010 The U17 men's selection came to be 17 points behind but thanks to a spectacular fourth quarter, could take the win in the tournament in Guadalajara that is serving as preparation for the World Cup in Hamburg which begins next July 2

    Good test U17 selection against Canada , which will be one of his rivals in the first round of the World . Canadians began to dominate the game and getting the early advantage , which reached a maximum of 17 points in the second quarter. Diego Ocampo encouraged boys asus before the break trimmed his handicap to eight points.

    The move by changing served for players to receive new instructions. However, in the third quarter, although the game was balanced for both teams , Canada could extend their lead to twelve points just before entering the crucial ten minutes . It was at that time that the U17 was a true display of talent , both on defense on offense to offset their disadvantage and to give final round score and win.

    This Saturday will be measured Canada and Argentina, while Spain will not play again until Sunday. He will face Argentina after 19:00.

    ESPAÑA (15+24+14+35), 88: J. Medori (14), J. Fernández (13), R. Pámpano (1), L. Conde (22), J. Olaizola (7) –Starting Fivel-, A. Ramón (5), J. Sanz (13), L. Costa (-), F. Cerqueira (4), M. Diop (-), A. Suárez (5), D. Díez (15).

    CANADÁ (25+22+18+14), 79:
    K. Pangos (8), A. Bennet (12), N. Webster-Chan (5), D. Wagner (4), A. Wiggins (12) –Starting Five-, D. Notice (7), R. Peters (4), O. Hanlan (6), D. Pierre (2), J. De Ciman (19), M. Willms (-).
    Wow. Pangos doesn't start?

    Another story found before the game has this:
    International Basketball Trophy Under-17 men between the teams of Spain, Canada and Argentina,

    This weekend at the municipal sports center David Santamaría
    June 24, 2010

    Our city hosts this weekend another international sports event. This is the International Trophy Under-17 men’s basketball selections from Spain, Canada and Argentina. This has been confirmed this morning Eladio Freijo1, Councillor for Sports. The meetings, which will be held in municipal sports facilities David Santamaría2, will start tomorrow, at 19 hours, with the match between Spain and Canada. On Saturday and Sunday, at the same time, will be played, respectively, the matches between Argentina and Canada, and Spain-Argentina. Admission is free.

    The Spanish team is concentrated in Guadalajara since last June 10 and remain within the city until the next day 30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    Found on FEB, the official site for Spain (Spanish Language, of course), translated via Google:Wow. Pangos doesn't start?

    Another story found before the game has this:
    The tourney doesn't start until July 2nd. That must be an exhibition game.

    http://hamburg2010.fiba.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    The tourney doesn't start until July 2nd. That must be an exhibition game.

    http://hamburg2010.fiba.com/
    Absolutely it's an exhibition tourney. We knew they were going to be playing an exhibition series in Madrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    Wow. Pangos doesn't start?
    I think it means the five guys listed first did start (Pangos, Bennet, Webster-Chan, Wagner and Wiggins).

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    That makes much more sense! Especially since there were six names listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    Absolutely it's an exhibition tourney. We knew they were going to be playing an exhibition series in Madrid.
    You wrote "loses first game to Spain" so I assumed that you thought this was the real deal. These are like spring training games, they mean nothing. The real stuff begins on the 2nd.

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    Fixed.

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    Roy Rana tweet:
    Lost to European Champion Spain 88-79- Lead comfortably for 3 quarters, played poorly in the 4th. Joe Deciman leads all scorers with 20pts.
    about 2 hours ago via UberTwitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    Whaddya know about this DeCiman kid? I just looked him up the other day.

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    Default Joe De Ciman and final roster

    Quote Originally Posted by thespywhozaggedme View Post
    Whaddya know about this DeCiman kid? I just looked him up the other day.
    Joe actually was on the team last year (averaged 14 mpg), and like Wiggins and Notice is younger than most of the other players on the team. He is a 6'5" guard/wing who can dunk and is very athletic. looks like he might have a Sudanese background with Deng as his middle name (He reminds me a bit of Manny looking at this info). He is from Regina.

    Piecing the team together...

    Guards.

    Pangos
    Hanlon
    Notice
    DeCiman

    Wings

    Pierre
    Wiggins
    Bennett
    Chan

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    Wagner
    Peters
    Willms
    Bhullar (didn't play in exhibition, but must be close to being fit enough for the tournament, either that or they brought him along to freak other teams out with his height).

    The only other question is are there any other players travelling with them? Givin the limited funding I am guessing no....

    Given that half the team is new from the FIBA Americas U16 group, they will take a bit of time to gell together.

    Bhullar, Willms have come from nowhere replacing Evans and Duke. I hear that Willms can really shoot the rock for his size, but might be 170 lbs soaking wet. Wiggins has got Alexander's spot. Hanlan replaces Lewis.

    Not concerned about loss to Spain, although I would rather be playing another team during exhibition as they are in our pool .
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    Quote Originally Posted by OZZY View Post
    Joe actually was on the team last year (averaged 14 mpg), and like Wiggins and Notice is younger than most of the other players on the team. He is a 6'5" guard/wing who can dunk and is very athletic. looks like he might have a Sudanese background with Deng as his middle name (He reminds me a bit of Manny looking at this info). He is from Regina.

    Piecing the team together...

    Guards.

    Pangos
    Hanlon
    Notice
    DeCiman

    Wings

    Pierre
    Wiggins
    Bennett
    Chan

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    Wagner
    Peters
    Willms
    Bhullar (didn't play in exhibition, but must be close to being fit enough for the tournament, either that or they brought him along to freak other teams out with his height).

    The only other question is are there any other players travelling with them? Givin the limited funding I am guessing no....

    Given that half the team is new from the FIBA Americas U16 group, they will take a bit of time to gell together.

    Bhullar, Willms have come from nowhere replacing Evans and Duke. In hear that Willms can really shoot the rock for his size, but might be 170lbs soaking wet. Wiggins has got Alexander's spot. Hanlan replaces Lewis.

    Not concerned about loss to Spain, although I would rather be plaing another team during exhibition as they are in our pool .
    Revenge, OZZY, revenge.

    Rana and the team had to learn a ton in this game, with working on preserving a big lead to the end being lesson #1. Hopefully a blessing in disguise.
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    This has probably been posted elsewhere, but just in case (and for my info), Group B includes:
    Egypt
    USA
    Canada
    Poland
    Spain
    China

    Edited to add: I think I'm screwed up. See below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    This has probably been posted elsewhere, but just in case (and for my info), Group B includes:
    Egypt
    USA
    Canada
    Poland
    Spain
    China
    That's a Death Group. I sure hope three teams advance out of there.
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    Darned if I know where I got that .. This actually looks like Group B:

    2 Jul. 2010 vs Germany
    3 Jul. 2010 vs Australia
    5 Jul. 2010 vs Spain
    6 Jul. 2010 vs Korea
    7 Jul. 2010 vs Poland

    Watching ZN research is more than a little like watching sausage made ... Sorry about those years off your life, guboards.

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    Looking on the FIBA site the photo looks like the actual team listed, Wagner is 6'9"/6'10" look how much taller Tanveer is!

    http://hamburg2010.fiba.com/pages/en...8/article.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    Darned if I know where I got that .. This actually looks like Group B:

    2 Jul. 2010 vs Germany
    3 Jul. 2010 vs Australia
    5 Jul. 2010 vs Spain
    6 Jul. 2010 vs Korea
    7 Jul. 2010 vs Poland
    Canada hopefully place 2nd or 3rd in the pool depending on how strong the Aussies are, still they could end up beating the Spainish team and finish 1st....The unknown is how they will play as a team against some teams that have been playing alot together (Poland, Spain and Germany).

    I hope that they get thorugh and end up playing Argentina in the QF round, that will be a great repeat from last years FIBA Americas semi-finals won by Argentina in a thriller.

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    Get it together, ZN!

    OZZY, weirdly enough, I really didn't know which countries would be represented in Hamburg, so please do not beat me about the head and shoulders as I blunder through.

    Am I correct that each group has six teams in it, and four from each group will advance to the next round?

    All teams and their groups:

    Code:
    Argentina  	Group A
    China 		Group A
    Egypt 		Group A
    Lithuania 	Group A
    Serbia 		Group A
    USA 		Group A
    
    Australia 	Group B
    Canada 		Group B
    Germany 	Group B
    Korea 		Group B
    Poland 		Group B
    Spain 		Group B

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZagNative View Post
    Get it together, ZN!

    OZZY, weirdly enough, I really didn't know which countries would be represented in Hamburg, so please do not beat me about the head and shoulders as I blunder through.

    Am I correct that each group has six teams in it, and four from each group will advance to the next round?

    All teams and their groups:

    Code:
    Argentina  	Group A
    China 		Group A
    Egypt 		Group A
    Lithuania 	Group A
    Serbia 		Group A
    USA 		Group A
    
    Australia 	Group B
    Canada 		Group B
    Germany 	Group B
    Korea 		Group B
    Poland 		Group B
    Spain 		Group B
    Yes that is correct, the top four from each pool advance to 1/4 finals. You don't want to be the fourth place team in B as you will end up playing the USA most likley. I believe that with a few games under their belts Canada will be competitive with all but the US team. I think that the have a realistic chance at a medal, but then again I said that last year at the World U19s with Manny and Kelly.

    A lot will ride on the back of how Pangos runs the team.

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    So it looks like Staukas didn't make the team. Is he hurt?

    Quite a bit of turnover compared to last year's team, with six of the 12 spots changing over.

    The team is a little thin up front (espcially if Bhullar is limited), and started a small lineup today.

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    CanadaU17 vs Argentina exhibition - 69-54

    follow up info on 2 post players
    Tanveer is 7'2" (ankle injury coming into Cadet try-outs...not sure if he is ready to play)
    Matthew Willms -Leamington, Ontario
    -6'11" 195lbs
    - can play 5, 4, and easily 3
    - great perimeter sharp shooter (they need to use him on the outside shots)

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