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    Default I hate this league

    Yes, hats off to Dons if they pull this out but WCC refs suck. They just do.
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    I can't disagree with you there.

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    Despicable. I don't like to play the "blame the refs" game but that was just absolutely horrible tonight. Elias's travel underneath USF basket, the missed foul by gibbs, the missed foul on bouldin (and I think heister was right with that one) all crucial down the stretch. I think Mark Few needs to say something because that was ridiculous.

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    There were some interesting calls/no calls, but this is the game:

    Free Throws 22-33, 66%

    11 points left on the table.

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    We can blame the refs all night long, and why not, they deserve it. But that doesn't change the fact that our team worked hard to get this lose. They didn't play D, they played a disinterested comfortable first half, and were actually winning, then USF sees that they can actually win the game by accident, and we don't have the offensive or defense to stop it.

    We have been playing russian roulette for a couple of weeks now, we knew we were not the 8 best team in the country. Now they outta get to work at being a top 20 team.

    There is NO EXCUSE for losing this game.

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    Yeah about 10 big calls in a row went the Dons way down the stretch. The Zags know this though. You must completely outplay the other team so that the refs cannot swing the game over to the opponent. They did not do that tonight and the lucky bounce or save by Gray goes straight to Lowhorn and there you go.

    It would be interesting to me if a team like St. Mary's could get to the point where opponents play all out for them as well as the Zags. Just curious because USF could get their a** handed to them by St. Mary's and UP and not really care but then they play like their lives depend on it against the Zags. Gotta wonder what their record would be if they played that hard every night? Maybe they should try it.

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    Default USF earned this one

    they played really well. The made the CRITICAL shots when they needed them.

    Bad luck dogged us. SG's great save went straight back to Lowhorn, but he canned the shot.

    This won't hurt us overall. maybe in the MYTHICAL Poll. But who cares ?

    It's a good lesson in playing every second. We need to jump all over our opponents and not build up their self esteem, imo. We need to start out and remain at the tempo we managed at the end of each game to make a comeback.

    that way, we don't need a comeback. We don't let the other side in.

    On the good news side, RS and Meech just may have shaken their funks. It sure looked like it most of the time.

    So, the pressure to go undefeated is off. It seemed like it had to happen. Might as well be USF. Now, sweep the rest.

    Go TEAM Zags !

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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieZag View Post
    There is NO EXCUSE for losing this game.
    +1

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    This has to be a wake-up call, not to the players only - but to the program. We need to come out with better intensity.

    A huge negative though is that so and so loses to so and so on the road but GU loses to USF and it's a big thorn in their seeding hopes. Really thing Duke is gonna be super hurt by the Georgetown loss? not really - would GU have played better on the road at GU then they did against USF?

    Y O U B E T Y O U R A S S

    that's the problem.

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    I will disagree with you this loss does hurt this team-You can say mythical poll but come tourney time when a team doesn't get any love to begin with they will say two bad losses-DUKE-SAN FRAN-Guess what Duke is top ten all year San Fran is one step about AAU summer league team-This is an awful loss and it looks awful-I don't care about the WCC-I am just cringing because another loss like this and hello eight nine game and one and done-

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    Gotta say I didn't think this one was on the Refs at all. All on the Zags, just didn't get it done. For those that were trying to argue the Zags were top 10, this should have convinced them otherwise. Hopefully we see a lot of development between now and March.

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    If you can think of one instance in the history of the game where someone thought the refs called a good game I might lend more credence to blaming the refs for calling a bad one, but I doubt you can. The Zags didn't play well, the Dons aka dior made big shots, move on to the next game.

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    This league isn't any different from any other league re: refereeing. The best refs are usually sent to games involving better teams playing each other, while expected lopsided matches get the dregs. Motivated, organized teams play excited enough to never let the officials make a few bad calls down the stretch affect the outcome.

    In this game:

    1. Matt didn't/couldn't show up early enough.
    2. Few's defensive lineups late - when stops and rebounds were absolutely critical - were pitiful.

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    Default Good grief

    We win 26 straight games and when we lose a road game it's a wake up call to the program?

    You people need to get a grip.

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    You don't see a lot of players have games like Lowhorn did tonight. He was phenomenal.
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    Default Bad shooting, bad defense

    The reason for this loss wasn't the free throws or the missed calls....it was allowing a bad team to shoot 48% from the field. Gonzaga's offense also had its worse field goal percentage since the Duke disaster.

    If you can't shoot better against a team like USF, and if you can't defend against a team like USF, well, you deserve to lose.

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    Default check out a santa clara/Saint Mary's Game

    I suggest you check out a Saint Mary's / Santa Clara game some time. They are wars.

    Your comment is weak.

    No one likes to lose in this conference.....especially home games. And Gonzaga isn't the only team opponents get fired up about.





    It would be interesting to me if a team like St. Mary's could get to the point where opponents play all out for them as well as the Zags. Just curious because USF could get their a** handed to them by St. Mary's and UP and not really care but then they play like their lives depend on it against the Zags. Gotta wonder what their record would be if they played that hard every night? Maybe they should try it.[/QUOTE]

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    You can micromanage the blame all you want, but the fact remains that Gonzaga's players are HUMAN! This loss hurts in every way, but we're going to move on because we have to. Hats off to USF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surfmonkey89 View Post
    We win 26 straight games and when we lose a road game it's a wake up call to the program?

    You people need to get a grip.
    I think so. Nothing wrong with a splash of cold water in the face. All the league games are tough, no doubt - but I wouldn't want to be in the locker room right now.

    What a rollercoaster....

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfmonkey89 View Post
    We win 26 straight games and when we lose a road game it's a wake up call to the program?

    You people need to get a grip.
    They just lost to a 7-14 team. The only way that happens is through lack of effort. They were completely lackadaisical and in need of a wake up call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatsc View Post
    I suggest you check out a Saint Mary's / Santa Clara game some time. They are wars. Your comment is weak.
    No one likes to lose in this conference.....especially home games. And Gonzaga isn't the only team opponents get fired up about. It would be interesting to me if a team like St. Mary's could get to the point where opponents play all out for them as well as the Zags. Just curious because USF could get their a** handed to them by St. Mary's and UP and not really care but then they play like their lives depend on it against the Zags. Gotta wonder what their record would be if they played that hard every night? Maybe they should try it.
    [/QUOTE]

    these guys just knocked off #8. They played harder than we did @ several critical moments and they got it. Fwiw, it's always been a mystery to me how hard our opponents come after us and then get beaten by another team we creamed.

    I think it has to do with the senior leadership trying to salvage their season, or their careers in the WCC when they meet up with us, and manage a W. It's a pride thing.

    And to us, too often, it's just a game. And when someone is playing with his hair on fire, sometimes, it's difficult to get that pumped, certainly every game. Yet that seems to be our challenge fairly often.

    Go TEAM Zags !

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    One more thing to the people that think everyone is hard on the team or whatever...

    If you care as much as most of us do about the program you are going to love the heck out of them and be mad as heck when they lose.

    Doesn't mean we don't believe.

    I wouldn't want to be Portland right now. You got shook up Zags, shake it off and run the table. Make Memphis wish the sanctions were coming sooner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUDan07 View Post
    They just lost to a 7-14 team. The only way that happens is through lack of effort. They were completely lackadaisical and in need of a wake up call.
    Totally agree, Dan. If each and every player can't get up for a conference game, the better check their pulse.

    Hopefully they come out with something to prove and take it out on Portland.

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    Portland and ST Mary's are smelling blood about right now. (Memphis too) GU was nearly beaten twice by bottom dwellers in the WCC. Not only is the conference title still up for grabs....so is an NCAA bid. Yes, I said NCAA bid cause the way they are playing could lead to 3 or 4 MORE losses.....TIME TO BRING IT ZAGS! Keep passing, Keep moving.

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    So disappointed in this loss. I'm so tired of seeing a timid team. Elias is the only player that plays like a man on a mission. He plays with so much heart. Refs are going to have an impact, and yes you're going to lose on here and there, and yes we're relatively young. BUT, the bottom line is that we are flat out better than all of these teams. Pull your heads out of your a**es and play. This is Gonzaga. We recruited you for a reason...show us why.

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