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    Presidents Cup player analysis: U.S. team


    http://www.pgatour.com/2009/tourname...usa/index.html


    Presidents Cup player analysis: International team


    http://www.pgatour.com/2009/tourname...nal/index.html

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    Isn't GoZags going to be there? Maybe he can give us some daily updates.

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    Pairings for Thursday:


    Mike Weir and Tim Clark vs. Anthony Kim and Phil Mickelson

    Adam Scott and Ernie Els vs. Hunter Mahan and Sean O'Hair

    Vijay Singh and Robert Allenby vs. Lucas Glover and Stewart Cink

    Angel Cabrera and Camilo Villegas vs. Kenny Perry and Zach Johnson

    Geoff Ogilvy and Ryo Ishikawa vs. Tiger Woods and Steve Stricker

    Retief Goosen and Y.E. Yang vs. Jim Furyk and Justin Leonard


    Match previews: Thursday's foursomes

    http://www.pgatour.com/2009/tourname...day/index.html

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    Cup carbon copy? Presidents has different flavor than regal Ryder

    By Steve Elling
    CBSSports.com Senior Writer
    October 7, 2009

    SAN FRANCISCO -- Fred Couples skews more toward Yogi Berra than Mark Twain as it relates to speechmaking or pithy witticisms, but at least he has his geography right.

    The captain of the American side in this week's Presidents Cup matches and a veteran of both international cup competitions, Couples was attempting to contrast the nuances of the two entities and detail how the Ryder is often rougher and ruder.

    "It's a fun event, not so grueling," Couples said of the Presidents matches. "[It's not] five days of saying some word and it gets blown out of proportion and they hate you. And then you go to Europe and they hate you.

    "That's not going to happen. It's impossible. Correct?"

    Precisely right, Magellan.

    The International team facing the Americans is composed of players from everywhere but Europe, where the Ryder is a near-manic obsession, which isn't the only thing that makes the Presidents Cup, played in alternate years and in its eighth staging, a more comfortable cousin of the more-established battle with the Euros.

    As Couples, sage of the captaincy stage, might also have said, the Presidents Cup not only is different in many ways from its derivative source.

    In many ways, it's far better.

    Thank god it's Thursday: Ryder Cup week sometimes feels like a parade of palm-pressing, baby kissing and back-slapping, finally punctuated by play on Friday.

    "The best thing in my opinion -- the Ryder Cup is awesome, don't get me wrong -- but it doesn't start until Friday," Zach Johnson said. "There are a lot of galas and functions. Friday feels like it's a year away."

    The Presidents Cup hits the ground running a full day earlier, which is not only better for the entity economically -- more tickets can be sold -- but from an interest standpoint, too. All 24 players will be on the course for the opening alternate-shot session Thursday.

    "This week moves at a nice pace," Justin Leonard said.

    It's not just a better way to present the matches -- the morning sessions at the Ryder frequently get short shrift -- but players perform at optimal levels, too. Some guys play around 90 holes in 72 hours.

    "Going 36, 36 and 18 [at the Ryder] wears everybody down," Anthony Kim said.

    No place to hide: Not only is that better for players, it's better for fans. In some instances at past Ryders, players have been buried on the bench all week, then been forced to play in the compulsory Sunday singles session, their first action of the event.

    "I think this event's a little more fan friendly," Leonard said. "Everybody gets to play at least four matches."

    Indeed, according to the rules, be they stars or perceived weak links, the 12 players on both teams tee it up all four days, period.

    "I think as a captain, it's much easier," Couples said. "As a player, it's the greatest setup ever, because it's very difficult to tell people not to play or to say, 'Well, I'm trying to hide a player.'"

    Formats and finality: In singles play, matches often end in ties, when the point is halved. No such luck at the Presidents, when Phil Mickelson learned four years ago.

    Mickelson had finished the 18th hole with his match all square and thought it was over. He was preparing to shake hands and bail when he was informed he had to keep playing. The only time a Presidents singles match ends in a tie is after the Cup has been decided.

    The dumfounded look on his face was priceless: I have to keep playing?

    "Why not play?" Johnson said. "That way, you have been out there all day, it's not anti-climactic."

    The ultimate fantasy draft: In what's far and away the most delicious divergence from the stuffier Ryder, the captains meet every day to roll out their lineups for the following day's action, taking turns sticking their players' names on a large tote board in an NFL-style draft room. The captains take turn posting player names first, just like in a rotisserie draft.

    Players in some cases get intentionally paired against other foes, like when Tiger Woods drew Canada's Mike Weir two years ago in Montreal. Thursday's alternate-shot highlight will feature Steve Stricker and Woods against emerging Japanese hero Ryo Ishikawa and match-play star Geoff Ogilvy.

    At the Ryder, captains set the playing order, but not the opponent.

    "The [Ryder] captains put their cards out, you put them together and that's who is playing," Jim Furyk said. "Here, you can bet that every time they bring the cards in, 'Here is the lineup, here is the deal,' you try to figure out whether your captain put you in and they had a rebuttal for that, or whether you were the rebuttal.

    "So everyone knows when you go out exactly where you stand. That's an interesting dynamic."

    Familiarity breeds intrigue: Other than Ishikawa, every player on the International team is a member of the PGA Tour. The majority of the Internationals have homes in the States, and two have American wives.

    "Presidents Cup is like playing with your buddies," Kenny Perry said. "The International squad is like the guys we play with week in and week out, we know each other, we're all good friends. A lot of barbing, jabbing going on out there, a lot of snide comments. And it's really fun."

    Not surprisingly, Phil Mickelson and his mates cited the "familiarity" with the guys on the opposite roster as a reason the tension level isn't as high vs. the Ryder. So, while commonality makes the Presidents matches less testy than the Ryder counterparts because the latter roster often includes players who don't frequent the U.S. tour, it adds a potential back story to the equation. In other words, at some point this week, odds are good that an American and International who have butted heads multiple times in stroke-play events will square off for a key point. They'll have a history, a track record, possible scar tissue of recent vintage.

    So, at first glance, the Presidents Cup might look like a dead-ringer knockoff of the more-established Ryder.

    "I can tell you that once the week gets here, for we as players, there's not a lot of difference,"' Leonard said.

    Except for the parts that make it even better.


    http://www.cbssports.com/print/golf/story/12327273

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    Default USA leads after Day 1

    3.5 to 2.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbslicer View Post
    Isn't GoZags going to be there? Maybe he can give us some daily updates.
    GoZags is supposed to be there. . .hope he has time between the golf, the Sourdough, and the North Beach nightlife to give us an update.


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    Actually played golf today after flying in and picking up our passes (Fri/Sat/Sun) from Will Call at Harding Park. Shot an 82 today (best round of the year for me -- but then I missed much of the summer while out on Medical Leave -- sure is great to be feeling better).

    Definately looking forward to tomorrow and the weekend -- and am just now watching The Golf Channel's replay of today's matches -- Tiger and Stricker sure seem like a great pairing.

    This should be different than attending a regular PGA event (or Major). Should be a blast.

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    Pairings for Friday:

    Retief Goosen and Adam Scott vs. Phil Mickelson and Justin Leonard

    Ernie Els and Mike Weir vs. Jim Furyk and Anthony Kim

    Ryo Ishikawa and Y.E. Yang vs. Kenny Perry and Sean O'Hair

    Vijay Singh and Tim Clark vs. Lucas Glover and Stewart Cink

    Robert Allenby and Camilo Villegas vs. Zach Johnson and Hunter Mahan

    Geoff Ogilvy and Angel Cabrera vs. Tiger Woods and Steve Stricker


    Match previews: Friday's Four-balls

    http://www.pgatour.com/2009/tourname...day/index.html

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    I didn't know you were a golf fan, Terp. Cool.

    Have fun GoZags. Give us a front row update.

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    USA - 6.5
    INTL - 5.5

    The matches today were fun, entertaining, very much back & forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoZag View Post
    USA - 6.5
    INTL - 5.5

    The matches today were fun, entertaining, very much back & forth.

    Did anyone spot GoZags in the shots of the gallery on the Golf Channel?

    Was he busy signing autographs?

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    Pairings for Saturday morning with five Foursomes (alternate shot) matches:

    Retief Goosen and Camilo Villegas vs. Phil Mickelson and Sean O'Hair

    Ernie Els and Adam Scott vs. Jim Furyk and Justin Leonard

    Robert Allenby and Vijay Singh vs. Stewart Cink and Hunter Mahan

    Tim Clark and Mike Weir vs. Steve Stricker and Tiger Woods

    Ryo Ishikawa and Y.E. Yang vs. Zach Johnson and Kenny Perry


    Match previews: Saturday morning's foursomes (alternate shot)

    http://www.pgatour.com/2009/tourname...yam/index.html




    Saturday afternoon Four-balls matches, pairings will be announced Saturday at 1 p.m. ET (10 a.m. PT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by former1dog View Post
    I didn't know you were a golf fan, Terp. Cool.

    Have fun GoZags. Give us a front row update.
    Actually the strategic place to be is "top" row in the grandstands, in a spot that gives you multiple views of multiple holes. We scored bigtime yesterday -- and saw a lot of great action.

    It's more difficult to follow what's going on in this format vs a regular tournament. If I'm home, and watching on t.v. -- I "know" the status of every match. Here -- I had a general idea -- but even with the scoreboards there's too much to follow. My "highlight" of the day was a bird's eye view of Leonard making the putt to win his match on 16. Pretty cool.

    It's a lot of fun ... close, competitive golf.

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    Clutch Woods gives U.S. three-point lead


    San Francisco, CA (Sports Network) - Tiger Woods hit two spectacular shots on his last two holes to lead Steve Stricker to victory and the United States to a three-point lead after three sessions of the Presidents Cup.

    The U.S. is ahead 10-7 after Saturday morning's five foursomes matches and Woods anchored a late rally for the Americans.

    He and Stricker were 2-down to Mike Weir and Tim Clark with six holes to play, but a birdie at 13 cut the deficit to 1-down.

    After three straight halves, Woods drove into a greenside bunker at the short par-four 17th. Weir laid up off the tee, then Clark wedged his approach to five feet.

    Stricker hit the lip with his bunker shot and left Woods with 22 feet. Knowing that if Woods missed and Weir made his putt, the match would be over, Woods stepped up and poured in the birdie putt on its last rotation. Weir pushed his short effort and the match was all-square with the par-five 18th at Harding Park to go.

    Stricker found the short grass off the tee and Clark did as well. Weir pulled his second into the rough right of the putting surface.

    Woods hit a perfect four-iron he knew was perfect. Immediately after impact, Woods twirled his club and gestured with his hands that the shot would be close.

    It was.

    Woods' ball bounced inside 10 feet from the stick eliciting a roar from the gallery.

    Clark hammered his chip 25 feet past the stick and Weir missed the birdie putt, then took off his hat to concede the hole and the match to Stricker and Woods.

    "It was fun to watch," joked Stricker. "I had a front-row seat."

    For Woods, it was a brilliant performance at the most opportune time, starting at 17.

    "I had no choice," said Woods. "We miss, they make, it's over. It just crawled in."

    The Americans started great with wins from Phil Mickelson and Sean O'Hair over Camilo Villegas and Retief Goosen, 5 & 3, then Justin Leonard and Jim Furyk beat Ernie Els and Adam Scott, 4 & 2. After that victory, the Internationals appeared to be in control.

    They were ahead in all three remaining matches, but only managed 1 1/2 points from them.

    British Open champion Stewart Cink and Hunter Mahan birdied the last to pull out a halve against Vijay Singh and Robert Allenby. Then Woods turned the momentum of things with his comeback win.

    In the anchor match, Ryo Ishikawa and Y.E. Yang handled Kenny Perry and Zach Johnson, 3 & 2.

    While Woods played the role of hero, playing just as well this week has been Mickelson.

    He and O'Hair lost the third hole, but won four and five. By the time the match made the turn, the U.S. was 2-up thanks to a chip-in birdie from O'Hair.

    The Americans won 11, halved 12 after a long putt from O'Hair and moved 4-up when Mickelson sank a 15-footer to win 13. The match was over on the 15th green and O'Hair finally got a win, while Mickelson has yet to lose this week.

    "I feel so much better on the greens," said Mickelson. "We're excited to have gotten this point. We're excited to be the first group out and lead."

    Leonard and Furyk were all-square with Els and Scott at the turn, but a birdie at 10 gave the U.S. a 1-up cushion. They got to 2-up at 13 and wins at 15 and 16 closed out the match.

    In the third match Saturday, Cink and Mahan jumped out early, but the Internationals claimed the lead before the turn. Singh and Allenby were 2-up with four to play, but lost 15 to par.

    At the 18th, Singh hit a poor drive that didn't allow Allenby to go at it in two. Mahan got on in two and Singh hit his team's third to 12 feet. Cink ran his eagle putt to win the hole and halve the match two feet past, then Allenby missed his birdie putt.

    Mahan kicked in the short birdie putt to steal the halve.

    Ishikawa and Yang, who have become Norman's most dependable team with a win on Friday, were 1-up through five and never looked back. Their lead got as big as 3-up and when Ishikawa rolled in a short birdie putt at 16, the 18-year-old and PGA Champion earned a second victory.

    There are five four-ball matches Saturday afternoon, then 12 singles matches on Sunday.


    http://www.seattlepi.com/scorecard/g...rticleID=81657

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    Pairings for Saturday afternoon with five Four-ball matches:

    Angel Cabrera and Adam Scott vs. Jim Furyk and Anthony Kim

    Robert Allenby and Geoff Ogilvy vs. Stewart Cink and Lucas Glover

    Ernie Els and Mike Weir vs. Zach Johnson and Justin Leonard

    Ryo Ishikawa and Y.E. Yang vs. Steve Stricker and Tiger Woods

    Tim Clark and Vijay Singh vs. Phil Mickelson and Sean O'Hair



    Match previews: Saturday afternoon's Four-balls

    http://www.pgatour.com/2009/tourname...ypm/index.html

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    The U.S. leads 12˝ to 9˝ points. The winning team needs 17˝ points.


    Pairings for Sunday's 12 Singles matches:


    Camilo Villegas vs. Hunter Mahan

    Adam Scott vs. Stewart Cink

    Mike Weir vs. Justin Leonard

    Robert Allenby vs. Anthony Kim


    Geoff Ogilvy vs. Steve Stricker

    Ernie Els vs. Sean O'Hair

    Ryo Ishikawa vs. Kenny Perry

    Tim Clark vs. Zach Johnson


    Y. E. Yang vs. Tiger Woods

    Vijay Singh vs. Lucas Glover

    Retief Goosen vs. Phil Mickelson

    Angel Cabrera vs. Jim Furyk


    Match previews: Sunday Singles:

    http://www.pgatour.com/2009/tourname...day/index.html

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