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    Default Is anybody else concerned besides me?

    We gave up 16 offensive rebounds, didn't go after loose balls, didn't take care of the ball and took 11 fewer shots than our opponent as a result.

    We didn't play very good defense and gave up a lot of wide open shots against a mediocre offense at best.

    We beat the #7 team in the WCC, with a 4-15 record and 300+ RPI, by 14 points.

    We let them outscore us by 5 points in the second half!

    Personally I get frustrated about how we often play down to the competition, or as I think was more the case tonight, don't play up to their enthusiasm and energy and hustle.

    I hope we don't play like that on the road vs SMC, SCU, or USD! Or Portland for that matter ...

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    This entire road trip is going to be difficult to watch. It's going to be tough for Coach Few to get this team "up" to play two of the worst teams in the entire country. Lets just hope that we get through this weekend injury free, so we can focus on the rest of the season

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    I would be concerned if it was neck and neck the whole way and we went on a late run to come out with the win. But the reality is the game was over in the first 4 minutes. They were not talented enough to come back from a 17 point deficit and we knew that. Obviously it's nice to take a 20 point lead and extend it to 50, but sometimes that doesn't happen, especially on the road.

    The test will be next week. The St. Mary's game will be a battle, and we can't have a let down after because San Diego is capable of beating us too.

    In short, I don't really see a reason to be too worried now.

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    You may cry all you want. But keep watching you'll be happy in the end.

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    It looked to me like we played a pretty good first half. That's all they needed to do. They do play again in two days, and I expect a blow out on Saturday. The Zags are fine. This is just the way it is. We don't need to blow every team out by 30 or 40. I'll always take a win on the road any way we can get them. I think you know how I feel about road games by now. Way to go Zags!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MedZag View Post
    I see what you did there.


    ps. I loved that game.

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    Gonzaga needs to come out on Saturday and crush LMU.

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    They knew they were better and the first four min proved it...Its hard to get kids to stretch that lead to 30 or 40 when the game was already over
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    We were ahead by 20 towards the end,they hit a few threes,our main guys were out,so we only end up winning by 14.I think they had alot of sloppy passes,but I still have no worry

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    Watching the replay -- up by 22 with less than 5 minutes to go. Don't borrow trouble.

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    GU opened up a 16 pt lead and finished with a 14 pt lead. If you go to ESPN and look at the pts game flow, you'll see GU went on Cruise contral after 5 mintues. Nothing bad, nothing good. No big spread. I saw Steven Gray as the lone rebounder multiple times. Lack of defense and poor rebounding will sink this team. I'm not sure how this Pepperdine team coujld even score 50 pts against the Zags if they were trying. Zags MUST be tough.....a lot tougher than tonight..in every game from here on in or it's one and done. BUT how did Pepperdine get all those offensive rebounds!!!??? I'll tell ya how: our guys had left for the other end. No effort and no sense of much. The game flow shows everything.

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    I understand the comments about going on cruise control, about how its hard to keep playing as hard when you are already up 20 etc.

    However, I have seem numerous posts on the boards wanting and looking for that killer instinct in this team. I didn't see it tonight.

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    Few's substitution patterns in the second half were different because this was an obvious win. No alarms are sounding.

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    The Zag team on the floor last night would be hard pressed to play with the Gaels. Consistency and intensity are not that easily turned on we've already been witness to that. Saw bickering between team members if anyone else noticed please comment but there were a couple of times Pargo and Daye had words on the court and neither were smiling.

    As far as Pargo goes it seems he has lost his heart to play, I don't know if it's injury or all the pressure of trying to NBA up his game but he doesn't look like he's having fun like he used to with that big smile on his face.

    Matt is starting to impose his imprint on the team. Amazing we finally scored on a play at the end of a half.

    Pepperdine has youthful talent but still we should have buried them. We didn't play hard for 40 minutes on either side of the ball. Some lessons are never learned. Hope this isn't the case.

    Beat the Lions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblahla View Post
    As far as Pargo goes it seems he has lost his heart to play, I don't know if it's injury or all the pressure of trying to NBA up his game but he doesn't look like he's having fun like he used to with that big smile on his face.
    Thanks Dr. Phil. I feel much better now that you've reached your conclusion and shared it with the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblahla View Post
    As far as Pargo goes it seems he has lost his heart to play, I don't know if it's injury or all the pressure of trying to NBA up his game but he doesn't look like he's having fun like he used to with that big smile on his face.
    Go!! Zags!!!
    Probably because his NBA stock has gone down in flames this season. If there is anyone who watches this guy play and thinks that he can play in the NBA, you are clueless. I was tough on Boulding all the way up to this year, but he has really stepped up. We should start Bouldin and send pargo to the bench. He is really bringing nothing to our team right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EngineerZag View Post
    We gave up 16 offensive rebounds, didn't go after loose balls, didn't take care of the ball and took 11 fewer shots than our opponent as a result.

    We didn't play very good defense and gave up a lot of wide open shots against a mediocre offense at best.

    We beat the #7 team in the WCC, with a 4-15 record and 300+ RPI, by 14 points.

    We let them outscore us by 5 points in the second half!

    Personally I get frustrated about how we often play down to the competition, or as I think was more the case tonight, don't play up to their enthusiasm and energy and hustle.

    I hope we don't play like that on the road vs SMC, SCU, or USD! Or Portland for that matter ...

    I agree. Someday, I hope we realize we must be, or remain or become an inside out game.

    Establish our game underneath, then start shooting outside. Against good teams and weak teams, we just start gunning and if they drop, fine, if they don't, not fine.

    SMC took over underneath against S.D. and then whipped them to a fare they well. They are going to try and do that to us.

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    We need to play with 100% intensity all the time. After we had a big lead, we passed up on open looks often. If I were Few I'd make the team execute with haste as if we were playing a Uconn or Duke....if you get an open look, shoot becuase more athletic and better coached teams won't let you get open as much. We need to treat every game as if we're playing the best. Don't play down to the competition!

    All and all, a fairly well played game...nice to see Will and Ira! getting minutes. We need them as additional post presence if we want to make any kind of deep run.

    GO ZAGS!!

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    ...after it was 17-0. The game was over. Did you want a 100-0 outcome like in high school girls basketball? I don't think we played poorly or lazily the rest of the game either. Give the Waves some credit. They're a really young team that from what I saw has a ton of potential to give us a serious game in a year or two. They played great after the first 5 minutes, but every time they came close to closing the gap, we answered back. Job well done Zags!
    It's peanut butter jelly time!

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    Right on amigo. I'm doing my best to stay off the latest anti-Pargo thread, so I'm glad you brought this up here. We are blessed from high above to have Matt, but when Jeremey's on his game we are a deadly team. I'll chalk this ho-hum game from JP to the thumb injury (and who knows about his leg or what other injuries he may have). I can feel all you Pargo bashing idiots are about to say I'm making excuses for the man. So bring it on, chumps! Just remember which team you're supposed to be rooting for!
    Last edited by NotoriousZ; 01-23-2009 at 01:17 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bing View Post
    Thanks Dr. Phil. I feel much better now that you've reached your conclusion and shared it with the masses.
    You may have missed the point of my statement.

    From all appearances it seems to me that Jeremy is not enjoying the game like he used to. I'm not saying he doesn't have heart I'm saying it seems his heart isn't in it.

    Go!! Zags!!!
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    GU outplayed Pepp more in the first half than Pepp outplayed GU in the second. That resulted in a safe W. No need to sweat it but yeah, it'd be nice to see GU outplaying a team with a 300 RPI for both halves.

    As for the Pargo bashing, Uber's right with ya Grey.
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    Although appreciative of the victory, I too want to see the killer instinct out of the Bulldogs ie. "Step on their throats mentality."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray'sAnatomy View Post
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    bigblahla:

    You two d-bags are ######ed. I'm so sick of the Pargo bashing, and if the man would allow me to give you negative rep right now, I'd drop a million little red boxes on your sorry asses.

    Unfortunately, the man is making me wait 24 hours before I do so, but I will when I can.
    "As far as Pargo goes it seems he has lost his heart to play, I don't know if it's injury or all the pressure of trying to NBA up his game but he doesn't look like he's having fun like he used to with that big smile on his face."



    How you translate what I wrote above is up to you but I'm not Pargo bashing however if that's what you think I have no influence over it. I don't think he's having fun like he used to. The team is changing and his role is changing how he adjusts to the changes will dictate what success we have from here on. I'm a Pargo fan but I don't have blinders on either. Now as far as name calling goes Momma said sticks and stones... awww you know the rest. Take a chill pill and remember you are only as important as you think you are in your own mind.

    Go!! Zags!!!
    Last edited by bigblahla; 01-23-2009 at 11:08 AM.

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