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  1. opposing viewpoints = trolling? placing highest...

    opposing viewpoints = trolling?
    placing highest value on beating top tier teams = trolling?

    to value big, noteworthy wins isn't inherently disparaging to gonzaga... you're making that connection...
  2. the champs grew up in spokane, followed zags...

    the champs

    grew up in spokane, followed zags religiously as a kid (was in HS during the emergence), went to villanova

    the hardware that has stacked up recently is awesome, but the memories are...
  3. of course getting there is big no matter what,...

    of course getting there is big no matter what, but answer me this...

    as a fan, what do you think YOU would remember more fondly, and what do you think YOU would have enjoyed more in the moment,...
  4. watch gonzaga run through a bunch of top tier...

    watch gonzaga run through a bunch of top tier teams during a deep run and then tell me it doesnt matter/who cares. fact of the matter is that gonzaga had a really fortunate draw last year and took...
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    the "fact" remains that GU would be in the final...

    the "fact" remains that GU would be in the final four with those guys back? that's hugely presumptuous and arrogant. last year's team was awesome on paper, and definitely passed the eye test. but...
  6. While I generally agree, wvu's press worked...

    While I generally agree, wvu's press worked tonight for 30+ minutes, then they took a backbreaking flurry of 3s with a few good stops in between. For most/much of that game, their press looked to be...
  7. norvell wouldnt get big minutes on this years...

    norvell wouldnt get big minutes on this years villanova team. can't really speak for duke/ku, but he certainly doesnt steal minutes from brunson, booth or divincenzo
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    RPI is an achievement metric, not an indicator or...

    RPI is an achievement metric, not an indicator or predictor of the quality of the team itself. it has its place. None of the ranking systems should stand alone.

    you probably like the others more...
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    technology is not the only path to narcissism ...

    technology is not the only path to narcissism

    if there's a generational angle to this, i'd suggest that its that younger generations are accustomed to more (and better) avenues of entertainment. ...
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    there's plenty of self-absorbed narcissism with...

    there's plenty of self-absorbed narcissism with the boomers (and every other generation) as well. to pretend that the millennials have the market cornered on that one is absurd.
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    think this is it... and i also think its an...

    think this is it...

    and i also think its an inevitable outcome given GU's unique place in the cbb world. competitive team that plays almost entirely dogs at home. it's harder to get excited for...
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    Not sure I agree, but that it's even something to...

    Not sure I agree, but that it's even something to be entertained is a sad state of affairs for west coast basketball
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    again, really impressive on the surface. still,...

    again, really impressive on the surface. still, not an elite win in either streak. (hence, continued struggle to reconcile activity vs achievement)

    there's no doubt that GU is great at taking...
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    i'm not only talking about the tournament though....

    i'm not only talking about the tournament though. i realize each team only gets a shot or two at a top team, but you'd think at some point over the last decade there would be some success against...
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    I dont disagree with much of this, hence the...

    I dont disagree with much of this, hence the difficulty in reconciling. On one hand is what you said (valid), on the other is a growing trend/disturbing stat (Also valid).
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    i agree with your top point and then the part...

    i agree with your top point and then the part about hanging banners for efficiency stats

    the thing i just really struggle to reconcile is how poorly gonzaga has performed historically and...
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    hard to make this claim when you look at the...

    hard to make this claim when you look at the wins...

    the team on the floor certainly looked top-5 good, but at the end of the day, there just wasn't that much in front of them all season long......
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    they're also not set up to thrive against real...

    they're also not set up to thrive against real competition... which is probably why they duck it

    this isnt about a popularity contest with SMC, they baaaaarely participate in what a casual fan...
  19. Thread: Rpi

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    the complex is strong with this one

    the complex is strong with this one
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    rpi is straight wins/losses/sos/opp sos kenpom...

    rpi is straight wins/losses/sos/opp sos

    kenpom factors in things like margin of victory and all that.

    some level of value to both, i'd lean more towards kenpom early in the season and rpi late
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    again, this board wants to focus on loss quality....

    again, this board wants to focus on loss quality.

    it's about WINS people. good wins. wins that mean something. stop focusing so much on comparing losses... it's a bad look
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    i'd type up my own response, but it would...

    i'd type up my own response, but it would essentially be verbatim of what seacatfan said... independent now, but probably not forever, and football will always drive the bus. that's a problem at...
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    i'd say GU still holds that mantle...

    i'd say GU still holds that mantle...
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    BYU would be a good fit alongside Gonzaga, but...

    BYU would be a good fit alongside Gonzaga, but their football-driving-the-bus leaning doesnt help (on their end or that of the BE). currently being independent in FCS is good for the case, but also...
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    win out percentages? 100% seems like if...

    win out percentages?

    100%

    seems like if you're any good in the west, it's pretty easy to stay out west. a 2 loss GU team will absolutely be in the west, probably even a 1 seed (yeah, i said...
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