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TheZagPhish
12-20-2007, 11:57 AM
ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3163578)


Gonzaga's Josh Heytvelt, who has not seen any regular-season action since February, will play Thursday night in the Bulldogs' matchup against Oklahoma in Oklahoma City, school officials announced.

gozagswoohoo
12-20-2007, 12:02 PM
http://www.saynotocrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/cat-saying-hooray.jpg

tenniszag
12-20-2007, 12:09 PM
Anyone know Bouldins status?

ZagNative
12-20-2007, 12:11 PM
Wow.

lawzag
12-20-2007, 12:12 PM
I'm so glad!!!:D :D
But, I was really hoping this would be kept secret until game time, so that OU would not have time to "prep" for his being in the game. :(

As usual, the last sentence in the ESPN article was TOTALLY unnecessary & not at all relevant to the article, but of course they had to put it in. :mad:

Therunner
12-20-2007, 12:21 PM
While this is great news regarding Heytvelt's health and ability to play, I still feel its unnessecary for him to be put into action this soon. He was just cleared to pratice less than a week ago. To play him before a nine day break is ridiculous, IMO. As much as we need this win, I think we'll need a fully recovered Heytvelt even more down the stretch. Since he's practicing now, please use this time for Josh to heal, recover, and accilimate to playing bball again. No need to force things with him...

With that said, I love the fact Heytvelt is able to play again...this is awesome news for him and the team! :D

gu03alum
12-20-2007, 12:34 PM
Even if he plays only a few minutes, I think it will help a lot. We have no one who can score consistently down low. Sacre is getting better, but can not be counted on yet. It would be nice to see Josh get in there to free up some of the shooters outside.

zagco
12-20-2007, 12:44 PM
Crap! If he's healthy, play him. Straight to the frying pan. This ain't intramurals, brother, this is Division I college basketball.

MDZag
12-20-2007, 12:52 PM
While this is great news regarding Heytvelt's health and ability to play, I still feel its unnessecary for him to be put into action this soon. He was just cleared to pratice less than a week ago. To play him before a nine day break is ridiculous, IMO. As much as we need this win, I think we'll need a fully recovered Heytvelt even more down the stretch. Since he's practicing now, please use this time for Josh to heal, recover, and accilimate to playing bball again. No need to force things with him...

With that said, I love the fact Heytvelt is able to play again...this is awesome news for him and the team! :D

This is a ridiculous thought. If he is ready to go tonight then you do not hold him back just to get a few more days of rest. He needs to get back into b-ball shape and the best way to do that is get a few minutes in the game tonight. The coaching staff would not play him unless the doctors and Heytvelt both thought he was ready to go. He is a competitor and this will only help when he is able to play more minutes against Tenn.

ZagNative
12-20-2007, 12:54 PM
This is a ridiculous thought. If he is ready to go tonight then you do not hold him back just to get a few more days of rest. He needs to get back into b-ball shape and the best way to do that is get a few minutes in the game tonight. The coaching staff would not play him unless the doctors and Heytvelt both thought he was ready to go. He is a competitor and this will only help when he is able to play more minutes against Tenn.

:agreed:

rennis
12-20-2007, 12:54 PM
The coaching staff would not play him unless the doctors and Heytvelt both thought he was ready to go. He is a competitor and this will only help when he is able to play more minutes against Tenn.

exactly. the coaches wouldn't sacrifice anything if Josh wasn't good enough to go. end of story.

I'm pumped to see him back on the court...this makes my day!

gozagswoohoo
12-20-2007, 01:02 PM
$5 says JH throws down a hard yammo tonight. Any takers?

Rubbadub
12-20-2007, 01:04 PM
It depends. What's the difference between a hard yammo and a not so hard yammo?

75Zag
12-20-2007, 01:13 PM
I just wagered 250 christmas cookies at Wynn's Sports Book in honor of Josh's return. They have Zags as 2 point underdog, which I think is a steal if Josh can get a few quality minutes in each half.

Reborn
12-20-2007, 01:14 PM
Great news. Thanks. I've been waiting for Josh's return since the season began. I think most of Zag Nation has been. I have really missed him being on the court playing. The wait is over at last. I just want to wish him the best tonight. I'm anticipating a successful return...I hope he has found THE WAY. I'm with ya tonight, Josh. 110%. Hope you feel the love in ZagNation that is behind you tonight. YOU CAN DO IT!!!

When I say The Best Is YET To Come....I think it begins tonight.

RenoZag
12-20-2007, 01:15 PM
It depends. What's the difference between a hard yammo and a not so hard yammo?

On a hard yammo, JH will glare and fist pump his chest. Ordinary yammo's only merit a glare. . .

;)

Therunner
12-20-2007, 01:20 PM
This is a ridiculous thought. If he is ready to go tonight then you do not hold him back just to get a few more days of rest. He needs to get back into b-ball shape and the best way to do that is get a few minutes in the game tonight.

You are absolutely right, the coaches and doctors know best in these matters and I fully trust their ability in deciding when Heytvelt should/shouldn't play. My opinion was not intended to be pessimistic or detract from the great news surrounding Heytvelt's return. I assure you I'm just as excited about him playing as the next fan. I was just sharing a small concern about Heytvelt possibly being forced into action too soon given the nature of the injury(stress factures are a mystery).

Go Zags! Beat up on the Sooners!! :D

gozagswoohoo
12-20-2007, 01:20 PM
On a hard yammo, JH will glare and fist pump his chest. Ordinary yammo's only merit a glare. . .

;)


Precisely. A hard yammo is pretty much what Casey and Turiaf would do everytime. A not so hard yammo is still quite respectable, but is more along the lines of a "it places the ball in the basket" type of throw down.

ZagNative
12-20-2007, 01:31 PM
So is this a hard yammo?

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ZagNative/Zags/Heytvelt/Josh-USDJan06Slamstheball.jpg

mgadfly
12-20-2007, 01:35 PM
I don't know if the coaches, doctors, and players know best in these situations (they are human after all and are a little close to the situation to be completely unbiased and may be prone to push players back before they are 100% ready--as a player I always tried to get back into the action sooner rather than later). I also don't buy that you get back in basketball shape by playing in games (as my coach used to say, if our practices aren't more physically intense than the games, then we aren't practicing right). However, as a college player (not basketball) I did like to get into games during my recovery if only for a few minutes of action. There is no way to replicate the adrenalin rush and emotional pressure of playing in front of an audience in a meaningful game situation. If Josh is healthy I think it would be great for him to get a few minutes in front of a hostile crowd so that he has a few days to process and review how he does before he begins logging significant minutes.

GoZags
12-20-2007, 01:36 PM
Does the Bouldin "slam dunk" the other night even register on the yammo scale? I likened it to one of the rare Blake Stepp Slams.

gozagswoohoo
12-20-2007, 01:39 PM
So is this a hard yammo?

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ZagNative/Zags/Heytvelt/Josh-USDJan06Slamstheball.jpg

Most definitley!


And here is an example of a not so hard yammo... (notice the smile, which is a direct give-a-way of a not so hard yammo)
http://blueroof.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/kid-dunk-cut-out.jpg

BobZag
12-20-2007, 01:40 PM
Crap! If he's healthy, play him. Straight to the frying pan. This ain't intramurals, brother, this is Division I college basketball.

Oh, those old Broncos coaches. :)

I'm 40 years old! I'm a MAN!

lol

gozagswoohoo
12-20-2007, 01:41 PM
Does the Bouldin "slam dunk" the other night even register on the yammo scale? I likened it to one of the rare Blake Stepp Slams.

exactly. Bouldin's dunk would not quite register on the yammo scale, simply because of the lack of emotion. (Still a respectable yammo, but not a yammo richter scale tweaker.)

gamagin
12-20-2007, 02:10 PM
holding JH's giant hoof holds and he quickly shakes off the rust and finds his game, or enough of it to launch the rest of his season.

the vegas line is OK favored by 2 1/2 and the over/under is about 132, meaning bettors so far believe the game will end somewhere in the mid 60's.

If we can get firing on all or most cylinders, I think we're capable of 80 points or better on any given night against anyone.

So here's for a relatively higher scoring game than the moneyline says it will be, a healthy JH and a smooth transition for the Zags.

I think Kuso is ready for a good night, too, and with a little help underneath, he could find his game quickly.

AK's also got some real shooters to kick it out to if the traffic gets too heavy underneath, meaning it should not be as easy for our opponents to play the play against him.

We're playing to win & to bolster our confidence further as a team. and I believe we will, by 4-8 points.

zagfan07
12-20-2007, 02:14 PM
Bouldin's outlook must not be good if Few is going to play Josh tonight. My hunch is that Few would have liked to rest him, but he sees this as a huge game for the Zags and needs an extra scoring threat out there; especially in the post. I hope he doesn't have a setback as a result.

Josh is going to need to control his emotions once he gets out there. After being off the floor for almost a year, he's going to be amped up to actually get some playing time. If he can stay cool-headed he should have an impact, even if its only in a few minutes of playing time.

Ziggy
12-20-2007, 02:20 PM
I can stop holding my breath. Never gave up on you Josh! Go get'em!

BobZag
12-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Josh will have some serious rust. Don't expect him to make a huge impact. It's going to take a few games, and to fully trust that foot.

zagfever86
12-20-2007, 02:34 PM
I just wagered 250 christmas cookies at Wynn's Sports Book in honor of Josh's return. They have Zags as 2 point underdog, which I think is a steal if Josh can get a few quality minutes in each half.

I got some chippers and cheese on this game through sportsbook. 2.5 underdog.

rennis
12-20-2007, 02:35 PM
Josh will have some serious rust. Don't expect him to make a huge impact. It's going to take a few games, and to fully trust that foot.

he'll be rusty okay, but his instincts haven't suffered I'm sure, and once he's back on that bicycle he's probably going to be productive very quickly...just my feeling.

WestSeattleZag
12-20-2007, 02:41 PM
His return isn't that unrealistic, when I talked to him a day before the WSU game I looked at him dead serious and said, "Please tell me your playing tomorrow bro..." and he replied, "Dude I feel fine and ready but they just won't let me do it..." THEY obviously know better than he does but the fact that he has felt ready to go for two and a half weeks means we could probably see him down low to intimidate their freshman big. I'm pretty sure OU has heard a little about Josh and probably saw him own Hansbrough last year.

ZagManFan
12-20-2007, 03:17 PM
If Josh does play tonight (I just have a funny feeling he may not play, even though he is cleared), I fully expect him to be more of a positive on the defensive end. A taller, more athletic post guarding Griffin will cause him fits. So even if his offensive numbers are modest, I think he can have a huge impact in this game from the defensive side (rebounds, blocks, altered shots). Defense should be rust free!!!!

MedZag
12-20-2007, 03:21 PM
My gut feeling, with my (limited) medical experience and exposure with these sort of things, I think the docs have been particularly conservative with Josh since (1) the foot wouldn't heal on its own (2) he's an athlete who will abuse the crap out of his feet.

If he's cleared and healed, he'll be fine (JUST DON'T LET ANYONE FALL ON IT!). As for the rust, I agree with BZ. It'll take him a handful of games to get his game senses running again. But I like us when he's on the court, rusty or not.

VinnyZag
12-20-2007, 03:35 PM
Anybody know if he's even been through a full practice against live competition yet?

Pure
12-20-2007, 04:41 PM
$5 says JH throws down a hard yammo tonight. Any takers?

Whats a Yammo ??? :o :D :D

MDABE80
12-20-2007, 04:45 PM
I think it's something like a "Boooooooooyyyyaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh"

RenoZag
12-20-2007, 08:15 PM
Josh will have some serious rust. Don't expect him to make a huge impact. It's going to take a few games, and to fully trust that foot.

QFT, BZ's dead on again.