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ZagsGoZags
11-19-2007, 10:17 PM
We always talk about the skill of our players.
For all the criticisms some of my friends constantly make about Few, I can only say, I think he is a crucial component to Zag success, and not just in recruiting
We ranked 8th in cleanliness - what if JH and TD had not done what they did -- then I imagine we would be higher.

I am so glad Coach Few is the skipper.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_bkc_t25_alaska_shootout_gonzaga.html

TheZagPhish
11-19-2007, 10:20 PM
We ranked 8th in cleanliness - what if JH and TD had not done what they did -- then I imagine we would be higher.

Is this punny? Irony? j/k But just imagine if Pendo washed his socks more - we'd be WAY higher on the cleanliness quotient!

Zagme-totheleft!
11-20-2007, 08:16 AM
we'd be lost without Few.

gamagin
11-20-2007, 08:42 AM
<< we'd be lost without Few >>


"many were called, but Few were chosen . . "

zagzealot
11-20-2007, 08:44 AM
From the Seattle Times Article:
Basketball Times recently reported that Gonzaga is tied with Michigan State for fifth-best college basketball program in the country, after Duke, North Carolina, Florida and Stanford.

The magazine, which ranks the top programs on a variety of criteria every five years, also found that Gonzaga was third in winning percentage (.792) after Duke (.851) and Kansas (.793) over that period. The Zags have sent four players to the NBA, tied with Illinois for 15th.

They were 20th in freshman graduation rate at 33 percent; eighth in "program cleanliness," and Mark Few is regarded as the fifth-best coach in the nation, after Mike Krzyzewski of Duke, Roy Williams of North Carolina, Billy Donovan of Florida and Tom Izzo of Michigan State, the magazine said.

Compare the above to a Letter that appeared in Sunday's Spokesman Review Sports Section

Zags set bad example

I am a long-time resident of Spokane, and a longtime fan of basketball. And I'm sorry, but I just cannot support the Zags anymore. I don't think they are a good representative of this fine city, nor of an excellent school.

It is too bad the coach of the team and/or the administration of the school won't take a harder stand on the quality of young men they are choosing to represent the excellent private university.

I would cheer harder for the Zags if the leaders of the team and the school could set some standards, academically and otherwise, for the young men playing basketball with GU jerseys on. And lead by example.

The integrity of the school, and the rest of the student body, is being compromised.

I would rather watch the NBA.

Edward Hawthorne

Spokane

Edward would rather watch the NBA because it has integrity and standards? Wow, give me some of the juice he's drinkin'.

J-Lo
11-20-2007, 09:02 AM
Zags set bad example

I am a long-time resident of Spokane, and a longtime fan of basketball. And I'm sorry, but I just cannot support the Zags anymore. I don't think they are a good representative of this fine city, nor of an excellent school.

It is too bad the coach of the team and/or the administration of the school won't take a harder stand on the quality of young men they are choosing to represent the excellent private university.

I would cheer harder for the Zags if the leaders of the team and the school could set some standards, academically and otherwise, for the young men playing basketball with GU jerseys on. And lead by example.

The integrity of the school, and the rest of the student body, is being compromised.

I would rather watch the NBA.

Edward Hawthorne

Spokane

Edward would rather watch the NBA because it has integrity and standards? Wow, give me some of the juice he's drinkin'.


The guy makes pretty serious claims as to the reputation (academically and otherwise) of the team without a single example? I don't get it. Did this article follow something else that looked disparagingly at the team? Or was it truly what we see here- a standalone attack without provocation?

Don't get me wrong, I don't pretend we're completely squeaky. Not by a long shot. But if you're going to sling mud, you should at least have some mud. :confused:

SammamiZag
11-20-2007, 09:11 AM
Zags set bad example

I am a long-time resident of Spokane, and a longtime fan of basketball. And I'm sorry, but I just cannot support the Zags anymore. I don't think they are a good representative of this fine city, nor of an excellent school.

It is too bad the coach of the team and/or the administration of the school won't take a harder stand on the quality of young men they are choosing to represent the excellent private university.

I would cheer harder for the Zags if the leaders of the team and the school could set some standards, academically and otherwise, for the young men playing basketball with GU jerseys on. And lead by example.

The integrity of the school, and the rest of the student body, is being compromised.

I would rather watch the NBA.

Edward Hawthorne

Spokane

This Edward character has obviously NEVER been to a game in the Kennel.

TheZagPhish
11-20-2007, 09:41 AM
Or...

Hawthorne leaves bad taste in mouth

I am a long-time resident of Spokane, and a longtime fan of basketball. And I'm sorry, but I just cannot accept the pointless bagging on one of the most reputable basketball coaches in the country - particularly by Edward Hawthorne. I don't believe his perspective is representative of this fine city, nor respectful of an excellent school.

It is too bad pseudo fans won't take a more gracious and less judgmental stand on the quality young men & women choosing to represent their world class private university.

I would cheer harder for the fans in general if their ranks contained more broad minds with thoughtful and balanced standards, for academics and otherwise, and for the young men and women playing basketball with GU jerseys on. And lead by example.

The integrity of the school, and the rest of the student body, deserves as much.

I'll be watching the Zags.

TheZagPhish

Spokane

OregonZag5
11-20-2007, 10:30 AM
He will be watching the NBA- They are fine examples of citizens ??? Did I miss something here or did he have something in his morning coffee ?

zagzealot
11-20-2007, 10:37 AM
Very nice, ZagPhish!

gamagin
11-20-2007, 11:54 AM
the standards for an S-R letter, given Mr. Ed just shat a mighty shat into Gu's hat and then just left it at that.

Reborn
11-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Few's THE MAN. There would be none of this without him. My hope is someday Mark will end up #1, and I hope he spends all his years with the Zags. We've had wonderful years....years that probably never ever dreamed about. I never did. This is way beyond my wildest imagination. The Zags have added a lot to my later years.

Thanks Coach Few and staff.

Zagme-totheleft!
11-20-2007, 03:49 PM
They are fine examples of citizens ???

haha, ya and their representative is Ron Artest (sorry Ron, I am a Kings fine, but seriously?)

Zag365
11-20-2007, 04:08 PM
The letter to S-R is meaningless -- not one factual reference, just conclusory claims that are demonstrably false.

To go back to the top of the thread, I think it is terrific that Coach Few and the GU program are publicly recognized for what we all know -- good character. This is our real source of pride; this is the essence of our Zagness; this is why the rest of the country respects us. Winning has brought us pride/recognition, but, more importantly, it has not diminished our character and Coach Few has seen to it that it hasn't.

Rather than forfeit our good name, I'll take things like the end of the K-2 home court streak, possibly missing the tournament, etc. Coach Few demonstrated he has the same self-respect. He is a hero beyond measure.

MickMick
11-20-2007, 04:25 PM
I would take Mark Few over any coach in the country.....honestly.

ZagNative
11-20-2007, 04:42 PM
On one of the interviews I saw (or heard, can't remember now), Zustin Daye was asked why he came to Gonzaga, and the first thing he said referenced the opportunity to play for a Hall of Fame coach.

Is there any doubt in your mind that Mark Few won't end up in the College Basketball Hall of Fame?

SunDevilGolfZag
11-20-2007, 04:54 PM
"Edward" wrote a conclusory letter that stated no facts to back up his opinion. He probably smoked but didn't inhale;)

zagzealot
11-20-2007, 05:13 PM
http://www.nationalradio.com/images/Biz_79_DA_BEARS_Vinatieri_200.jpg

Good afternoon, my friends, and welcome to "Bill Swerski's Super Fans"! I'm Bill Swerski, and with me, as always, are the Super Fans. Now, gentlemen, let me ask you this: What if Da Zags were all 14 inches tall, you know, about so high? Now, what's your score of today's game?

Carl Wollarski: Against Da Blue Devils?

Bill Swerski: Yes, give 'em a handicap.

Carl Wollarski: Zags 78, Blue Devils 70. And that would finally be a good game.

Pat Arnold: Yeah, it would be a good game. Mini Zags 68, Blue Devils 57.

Todd O'Conner: What about Few? Would he be mini, too?

Bill Swerski: No, he would be full-grown.

Todd O'Conner: Oh, then, uh.. Mini Zags 85, Blue Devils 10.

Carl Wollarski: Oh, hold on. Then I change mine, too. I thought it was Mini Few.

Bill Swerski: Okay, gentlemen, another scenario: Da Zags, they don't make it, the plane is delayed.. and the only one who shows up is Few. Few vs. Da Blue Devils. Okay, score, gentlemen.

Pat Arnold: Alright, after da heart attack, I gotta say Few 65, Blue Devils 62. He just barely gets by.

Bill Swerski: Alright, that sounds exciting. Perhaps, you know, a late Few 3-Pointer.

Todd O'Conner: Da Zags!

Superfans: Da Zags!!

ZagsGoZags
11-20-2007, 05:30 PM
Zag fans everywhere.
A moment of silence please.
Drum Roll.

Mr. Edward Hawthorne might remove himself from our ranks, and cease being a Zag fan.

Now how do you feel..............?

zag67
11-20-2007, 06:27 PM
I have followed GU since before many of you were born (back before Frank Burgess). I have lived through many of the bad years and back then any record that was close to 50/50 or 60/40 was fantastic. That also was against a caliber of teams that were not even in the ballpark for what they play against today.

Mark Few and the rest of the coaching staff are super. The players that have been brought in have been super. Many people do not like this or that, but if you really look at where we are and who we are comparing them to, this is fantastic. Ask yourself a question. How many college basketball teams exist (including Division I, II, III and NAIA teams)? When you add all of them up and then say we are saying that our coach is one of the top 5, our overall record in the last 10 years in the top area, the difficulty of our out of conference schedule is one of the hardest, Nine NCAA tournament appearances in a row, 10 WCC tournament finals, and many more records. We should all therfore be proud of Coach Few, his assistants, the administration, and all of our players now, graduated and in the future. All of these need to be working for the same goals to make what we are seeing happen.

Therefore our PROGRAM is in the top echelon of all of the programs and like all of them, we will have down years, but the overall series of years is fun and fantastic to watch. And let us hope that even with as young a team as we have, that they will again make a super run in March.

CanadZag
11-20-2007, 06:54 PM
Mid-majors everywhere talk about the "Gonzaga Syndrome", or "becoming the next Gonzaga."

They are looking for that magic potion, usually that means a new coach. Look at how the rest of the WCC replaces coaches lately.

We would not be where we are as a program without Few's stability.

ZagNative
11-20-2007, 07:40 PM
http://www.nationalradio.com/images/Biz_79_DA_BEARS_Vinatieri_200.jpg

Good afternoon, my friends, and welcome to "Bill Swerski's Super Fans"! I'm Bill Swerski, and with me, as always, are the Super Fans. Now, gentlemen, let me ask you this: What if Da Zags were all 14 inches tall, you know, about so high? Now, what's your score of today's game?

Carl Wollarski: Against Da Blue Devils?

Bill Swerski: Yes, give 'em a handicap.

Carl Wollarski: Zags 78, Blue Devils 70. And that would finally be a good game.

Pat Arnold: Yeah, it would be a good game. Mini Zags 68, Blue Devils 57.

Todd O'Conner: What about Few? Would he be mini, too?

Bill Swerski: No, he would be full-grown.

Todd O'Conner: Oh, then, uh.. Mini Zags 85, Blue Devils 10.

Carl Wollarski: Oh, hold on. Then I change mine, too. I thought it was Mini Few.

Bill Swerski: Okay, gentlemen, another scenario: Da Zags, they don't make it, the plane is delayed.. and the only one who shows up is Few. Few vs. Da Blue Devils. Okay, score, gentlemen.

Pat Arnold: Alright, after da heart attack, I gotta say Few 65, Blue Devils 62. He just barely gets by.

Bill Swerski: Alright, that sounds exciting. Perhaps, you know, a late Few 3-Pointer.

Todd O'Conner: Da Zags!

Superfans: Da Zags!!

That right there is genius. Bravo Zagzealot!

TheZagPhish
11-20-2007, 10:37 PM
Todd O'Conner: Da Zags!
Superfans: Da Zags!!

:clap:

NVzag
11-20-2007, 11:11 PM
I have followed GU since before many of you were born (back before Frank Burgess). I have lived through many of the bad years and back then any record that was close to 50/50 or 60/40 was fantastic. That also was against a caliber of teams that were not even in the ballpark for what they play against today.

Mark Few and the rest of the coaching staff are super. The players that have been brought in have been super. Many people do not like this or that, but if you really look at where we are and who we are comparing them to, this is fantastic. Ask yourself a question. How many college basketball teams exist (including Division I, II, III and NAIA teams)? When you add all of them up and then say we are saying that our coach is one of the top 5, our overall record in the last 10 years in the top area, the difficulty of our out of conference schedule is one of the hardest, Nine NCAA tournament appearances in a row, 10 WCC tournament finals, and many more records. We should all therfore be proud of Coach Few, his assistants, the administration, and all of our players now, graduated and in the future. All of these need to be working for the same goals to make what we are seeing happen.

Therefore our PROGRAM is in the top echelon of all of the programs and like all of them, we will have down years, but the overall series of years is fun and fantastic to watch. And let us hope that even with as young a team as we have, that they will again make a super run in March.


HOF right here.

ZagNative
11-20-2007, 11:15 PM
I came upon this photo tonight,and itwarmed the cockles of my tiny heart. Somehow, I think today's Mark Few would never be this unrestrained:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ZagNative/Zags/Mark%20Few/2000-03-18-MarkFew-StJohns.jpg
"Mark Few jumps into the arms of Mark Spink
after Gonzaga beat St. John's 82-76."
2nd Round NCAA Tournament, March 18, 2000.

Zagme-totheleft!
11-21-2007, 01:41 AM
well done zagzealot! Da Zags!

DenDiegoZag
11-21-2007, 08:12 AM
Nothing beats those Classsic SNL sketches! Sounds like a great parody idea for GUTV or some ambitious Youtubers...

lothar98zag
11-21-2007, 11:34 AM
http://www.nationalradio.com/images/Biz_79_DA_BEARS_Vinatieri_200.jpg

Good afternoon, my friends, and welcome to "Bill Swerski's Super Fans"! I'm Bill Swerski, and with me, as always, are the Super Fans. Now, gentlemen, let me ask you this: What if Da Zags were all 14 inches tall, you know, about so high? Now, what's your score of today's game?

...

Superfans: Da Zags!!

:allhail:

UberZagFan
11-21-2007, 04:34 PM
That right there is genius. Bravo Zagzealot!

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Very nice work.

MDABE80
11-21-2007, 05:02 PM
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/xavi/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/BasketballTimes.pdf

MoJoZag
11-22-2007, 11:20 AM
Mark Few seems to be a very humble and kind man. His expectations and goals for the team seem to be very high.

We would be lost without him!